Allah The one and only God (Page 3) xylance: It is also interesting that Muslims do not concern themselves with winning over the hearts and minds of people but instead prefer to focus on political gains. Let me guess....was it Macrons fault that school teacher was beheaded outside of the school? Is all political? Nevermind the children and parents who are too terrified to go back to that school. xylance: Kin knew it!!! It's understandable to you right!! I'm giving you individual recent cases of innocent lives being butchered, with names and dates and you come back with 1.5 million in Algeria ....oh I mean algyria. When was this?? Do you even know where Algyria is on the map?  firstdown857: To kill nation is matter with opioin. But To kill a man in the forsrest is crime can't be forgiving ? xylance: I don't like erdogan actions over this last year. By your logic I would be perfectly justified to travel to turkey and take off some Turks head in the street. Or perhaps blow up some Turkish children? xylance: Hmm looks like he's gone to the mosque to ask his Iman exactly why he's mad about Algeria. 👀 firstdown857: theHating God is a hair dresser. 20 In the same day the Lord will shave with a hired razor, With those from beyond the River,[a] with the king of Assyria, The head and the hair of the legs, And will also remove the beard. Isaiah 7:20. God is a slaughter. 6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, It is made overflowing with fatness, With the blood of lambs and goats, With the fat of the kidneys of rams. For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah,And a great slaughter in the land of Edom. Isaiah 34:6. Our G-d is a wrestler. 25 Now when He saw that He did not prevail against him, He touched the socket of his hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip was out of joint as He wrestled with him.Genesis 32:25. But our father Jacob beat him . Did Jacob Wrestle with God ? Jacob Wrestles With God 28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel;[a] for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” Genesis 32:28 (New King James Version). Footnotes: Genesis 32:28. Imagen G-d with bottle of whisky in his hand . God is Like one drunk 65Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, Like a mighty man who shouts because of wine. Psalm 78:65 firstdown857: TheHating Does Allah Exist? Quran 41:53 We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness? Quran 2:164 Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and earth, and the alternation of the night and the day, and the [great] ships which sail through the sea with that which benefits people, and what Allah has sent down from the heavens of rain, giving life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and dispersing therein every [kind of] moving creature, and [His] directing of the winds and the clouds controlled between the heaven and the earth are signs for a people who use reason. Quran 51:20 And on the earth are signs for the certain [in faith] 21 And in yourselves. Then will you not see? 22 And in the heaven is your provision and whatever you are promised.23 Then by the Lord of the heaven and earth, indeed, it is truth - just as [sure as] it is that you are speaking. Quran 2:107 Do you not know that to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and [that] you have not besides Allah any protector or any helper? Quran 2:117 Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. Quran 2:255 Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. Quran 3:190 Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day are signs for those of understanding. 3:191Who remember Allah while standing or sitting or [lying] on their sides and give thought to the creation of the heavens and the earth, [saying], "Our Lord, You did not create this aimlessly; exalted are You [above such a thing]; then protect us from the punishment of the Fire. 3:192 Our Lord, indeed whoever You admit to the Fire - You have disgraced him, and for the wrongdoers there are no helpers. 3:193 Our Lord, indeed we have heard a caller calling to faith, [saying], 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed. Our Lord, so forgive us our sins and remove from us our misdeeds and cause us to die with the righteous. 3:194 Our Lord, and grant us what You promised us through Your messengers and do not disgrace us on the Day of Resurrection. Indeed, You do not fail in [Your] promise." xylance: The islamic scholars understand that the Qur'an has not been preserved.... "The standard narrative (the narrative that it's been perfectly preserved) has holes in it". Or, in other words it's  xylance: 26 different ARABIC Quran's... Not different interpretations, or translations but 26 DIFFERENT ARABIC QURANS. .. The standard narrative has holes in it. firstdown857: Xylance . Watch Dr. Shabir Ally humiliating Jay Smith on the Trinity and the Christian Concept of Atonement . xylance: I think I've seen that video in the past. It's not jay Smith at his best I grant you that. However, it does not distract from the fact that there's holes in the Quranic narrative of perfect preservation. In fact, it's true to say that historians consider it to be THE WORST preserved book of ancient history  (Edited by xylance) xylance: The earliest Quranic manuscripts ( which are hundreds of years after Mohammed's death) they have been crossed out, taped over, rewritten and rewritten again and again and again. So much so it's impossible to decipher what the original said. Yet the Muslim narrative is that the Qur'an has been perfectly written and preserved...not a single letter has changed!! N the only people believing your bs is yourselves!! Not a single letter nor word has changed yet there's over 30 different Arabic versions in circulation today. It really requires Muslim logic to be able to square that one! (Edited by xylance) firstdown857: Xylance . Is Jesus Muslim?. Christianity, Judaism and Islam. God did not choose the word ”Christianity or Judaism”, but He has chosen the word ”Islam”. One Lord, one faith- 5one Lord, one faith; Ephesians 4:5 . [ Qur’an 2:213] The people used to be one community when GOD sent the prophets as bearers of good news, as well as warners. He sent down with them the scripture, bearing the truth, to judge among the people in their disputes. Ironically, those who received the scripture were the ones who rejected any new scripture, despite clear proofs given to them. This is due to jealousy on their part. GOD guides those who believe to the truth that is disputed by all others, in accordance with His will. GOD guides whoever wills in a straight path. [Qur’an10:19] The people used to be one congregation, then they disputed. If it were not for a predetermined word from your Lord, they would have been judged immediately regarding their disputes. [Qur’an 23:53-54] But they tore themselves into disputing factions; each party happy with what they have. Therefore, just leave them in their confusion, for awhile.. WHO IS CHRISTIAN? .”If you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed” 14If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. 16However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. 1 Peter 4:14-16. The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch. 26 And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch. Acts 11:26 . Was Jesus Christian? The Christianity did not exist, when Jesus was on the earth. It was invented later on. ”And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch”. Acts 11:26 OBVIOUS CHRISTIANITY MADE IN ANTIOCH CITY IN TURKEY .. firstdown857: xylance . The Quran is one single version the arabic one . The rest are translations to the near mining . University of Birmingham Qur’an manuscript among world’s oldest. xylance: The university of Birminghams manuscript is older than Mohammed......do you understand what that means? N there is no art to the Qur'an... it's badly written with entire sections reading like jibberish, without meaning at all. Large parts have been abrogated and therefore pointless. And the rest is hideous. Plus it is not chronologically ordered adding to the confusion. Anyone who reads the Qur'an and claims it has any beauty or greatness is a bold face liar......or deluded. xylance: Just in case you do not understand what the relevance of the Birmingham manuscript is. It was written before Mohammed was born....That means it was not written by Mohammed, and any later manuscripts which show similarities is because they were copied at a later date. It was not "revealed" to Mohammed but rather stolen by the Mohammedans. (Edited by xylance) firstdown857: xylance. IS THIS FACTS . OR JUST FARTS ? . YOU SEE FACTS CAN BE SUPORTED WITH EVIDNCES. BUT FARTS SMELLS AND VANISH | Religion Chat Room 37 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
