Why Jews don't believe in jesus (Page 6)

rockmass: Oh, 40 years after Jesus death, around the writing of the Gospels. That's mighty close. If it was a few hundred, I would probably leave it alone. But 40 years, sounds like they were influenced by the Christians.

DontNeedChrist:

Do you have a point to make?

Would it be G-d chose to blind the Jews? Would it be they missed their messiah? Would it be they’re stubborn and stupid and don’t know their own scriptures? All of the above?

You obviously have some sort of agenda. How about making your point so this can get back on track?

rockmass: Only thing I was saying you need to get back to sacrificing.

rockmass: You obviously feel I took you off track. So you can go back to explaining why Jesus is not the Messiah. I apologize.

DontNeedChrist:

It’s already been explained to you with scriptural evidence why there is no longer qorbonot. It has nothing to do with jesus or christianity. It’s solely the existence of the Temple. Period.

Why do you say Jews need to get back to sacrificing?

DontNeedChrist:
OK well, obviously rockmass has no follow up on his opinion. Moving on...

Do christians ever ask themselves why Jews have rejected jesus as Messiah? Is it because Jews are stubborn and stiff-necked or even worse blinded by G-d?

Or are there deeper and logical reasons? Do christians ponder this and ask questions?

Apokalupto: It has to do with the Torah predicting the two covenants through Cain and Abel, Ishmael and Isaac, Esau and Jacob, Joseph and his brothers, Saul and David, OT and NT, Jesus and Israel. NT says it was predicted using the Torah as the reason for how it would play out.

DontNeedChrist:
How in the world does that answer the question I just asked?

butttler: dnc...after hearing verbatim from you...what you call logicial reasons only makes a christian realize Gods word is true...if God said He blinded Israel temporarily then He did....this is just the facts

DontNeedChrist:

So butttler thinks G-d blinded the Jews. Noted.

Apokalupto: That is the deeper logical answer which is a main NT theme as to why Israel rejected Jesus, because it was predicted to be so, however like Joseph and his brothers, at the end they all got along.

butttler: dnc...no i dont think God blinded the Jews..as though it is a matter of my personal opinion...it is Gods Most Holy Word...He said it...that makes it fact

DontNeedChrist:
That's not the question. The question is do christians ponder the reasons why Jews have rejected jesus as the Messiah? Not what the NT says about it.

Apokalupto: What Christians think should come directly from the Bible. I can't answer for other Christians who would not use the NT which answers this question already. So that is as far as I can go.

DontNeedChrist:
Never personally pondered the question huh? Guess you're right, that's as far as you can go.

Apokalupto: My personal view? It aligns with what has been said already about the Torah and the NT.

DontNeedChrist:

butttler - "dnc...no i dont think God blinded the Jews..as though it is a matter of my personal opinion...it is Gods Most Holy Word...He said it...that makes it fact

We get it butttler, you believe G-d blinded the Jews. Again, noted.

DontNeedChrist:

AA - "My personal view? It aligns with what has been said already about the Torah and the NT."

Wouldn't want to think for yourself or ask questions? Wouldn't want to dig deep and examine the issue in depth? Wouldn't want to ask the Jew why? Just go along with what you've been taught and that's that. As you said, that's as far as you can go. Got it.

DontNeedChrist:
butttler, deleted your response because you went off topic yet again and went back to an old, tired subject matter that's been settled.

Apokalupto: I wasn't taught this, I learned this glaring fact on my own. God forbid that I should choose to not align myself with His word when its my basis for truth and happiness. I have dug deep, its spelled out throughout the Torah in great number.