Why Jews don't believe in jesus (Page 12)

DontNeedChrist:

People, please stay on topic.

DontNeedChrist:

Many excellent questions. Why no answers a week after the post? Clearly they either don't know the answers or simply don't care.

garrylawson3073: poetry good question ,its just the christians version anyway , religion is a choice , same as being gay , so religions accept it , others dont.

amoregrowers: Poetry the answer is simple

Rome hated the Jews because Jews would not bend the knee. So they forbid Torah study. Taxed the Jews and gave money to pagan temples. Destroyed Jewish temple.

While Christianity was being formed Rome had been slaughtering Jews Akiva and the ten martyrs.

So while Rome is conquering in the name of G-d then it would make sense that Roman propaganda would say things contrary to the narrative of Jesus, Torah or Judaism. Even today you can see this regurgitated dog squeeze being said without any regard to what scriptures actually say or what they claim Jesus was or is. It is Truly sad.

Because the rejection of Torah is actually the rejection of G-d so here are a few reasons based on my personal experience thus far

1. Christians lack understanding of what Jesus actually taught bc they reject Torah

2. Christians can not see the beauty and living spiritual power of Torah. They literally look at the pages and have no real understanding.

3. Every secret parable of Jesus is actually pointing to the Torah. Both written and oral.

4. Jesus absolutely did not reject Judaism. He was seeking balance between the two extremes of the time. Which was Pharisees “oral Torah”. And Sadducees “ written Torah” Jesus actually taught that the Written Torah and the Oral Torah mixed with the direction of the Holy Spirit was the proper balance needed to know YHVH.

Jesus message was Echad “one” or unity between G-d and men as seen in the Name.

Y- Father
H- Mother
V- Son
H- Daughter “bride” Israel

So Jews can’t believe in Jesus as taught by Christianity because it’s idolatry And sadly Christians carry the beauty of Torah around and have no real idea of the power and bliss it contains.

Christians use logic when considering my words.

1 G-d sent his son into the world as a Jew. He picked the religion that would best teach Jesus about his Father. So that in and of itself should show the purity of Judaism and Torah. Don’t we seek to give our children the best education? BTW back in the day the mystics were called sons of G-d .

2 Jesus name in Hebrew is Joshua which means YHVH is salvation. So his name points at the G-d of the Jews

3 He picked 12 Jewish disciples. Why? First off a disciple meant they were highly educated Jews and spent there lives in Torah study under Torah teachers. So when he sent the 12 to teach the world. He did not send them to go preach something new. He sent them to teach what they had studied their whole life which was.... Torah. The message was simple Love YHVH and love your neighbor.

4 There were a lot of disagreements at the start of Christianity because gentile were flooding to Judaism. Even the Disciples didn’t know what to do. So they handed the matter to the Sanhedrin. So the men put in place made decisions based on the Torah and needs of the time and situation.

It’s simple if you just think about it

Rome was trying to destroy Judaism. Burning Torah scrolls and Temple. Killing Torah teachers. Not just Jesus. So at a very very dark time in history. A light shined out of the darkness to give Israel the ability to make copies of the Torah and a breadcrumb trail back to authentic Torah study and pure worship.

So the happy ending is Torah is alive and well and has survived all of the enemy’s attacks.

The13th: Where can i.download.a.copy.of Torah in English?

The13th: i guess other than jews, non jews, there are non non jews like me, who are completely outside the influence of.those religions around those mediterranean regions. For us, the whole.idea of messiah simply cannot be true. It is obvious to us that peolpe just devise the concept of messiah to gain control of the mass population. God sent messiah, god sent his son, god sent his grandson, god send his Grand Messiah. And so on.

DontNeedChrist:

The Moshiach is a Jewish concept. You're entitled to whatever views you wish. When the true Messiah comes, it will be evident to the entire world regardless of beliefs or religions. You say it's simply not true but if he arrives in our lifetime, you will see for yourself along with the rest of us.

The13th: i have an almost admiration.of those people who believe in messiah coming after waiting for 2000 years. Anyway another branch of mediteranean region called Islam has smartly annouce that Prophet Mohhamed is the last prophet. IF Messiah does come, he is going to face lots of heat.

The13th: Meanwhile in Tibet and Mongolian region, as many as 4 branches claimed some kind of reincarnation, one of which is Dalai Lama. The Dalai branches weird lots of political infleunce among several powerful central Asia country, who like to send their future king to Lhasa for monestry training.

Luckily they all get swept away now. Otherwise Messiah coming may have to be postponed due to some of these butchers.

m_leonora1111: This preacher has forget to say that Jesus told His disciples that John the Baptist is the Elijah.

DontNeedChrist:

John the Baptist denied it...twice.

DontNeedChrist:



Also, the speaker in the video is not a preacher.

Also, the Tanach prophecies state that Elijah himself will return as he did not die. He was "taken up." No need for him to assume someone else's identity. That's simply forced and again, John himself denies he's Elijah.

When Elijah returns he will usher in the TRUE Messiah and the Messianic Era.

m_leonora1111: But Jesus Himself declared that John Baptist is Elijah.