The Real Path To Enlightenment (Page 2)

Zanjan
Zanjan: Shoes is saying he's a misogynist.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: That's what happens when a guy wanders off the path. When a woman wanders off, she's a misandrist.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Shoes is neither a Misogynist or Misandry ! I hate no one ..life's to short to even waste a minute on such things

I'm not a judgmental prudish ass either
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Properly understood, you'll see that God's religions have always taught that men and women are equal before the sight of God. That is, He judges them equally on the state of their heart, not on the degree of their knowledge.

God's plan has certainly involved gender roles since this was a necessity in the old world order. It no longer is. It's not that God's plan has changed - change implies imperfection - it just has segments. We approach them like legs on a journey. Some arrive sooner than others.
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Precious Pea
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chronology
chronology: No mention of women and religion would be relevant without mention of Queen Samerimes. She changed the world for ever with her Cult of Personality.

To this day 'The Virgin and Child' Cult which is in every country from New Zealand to Poland was her invention. She was faced with being deposed after her husband died, but hey, she reinvented herself as the 'Mother of God's Son' . Now that is a sales pitch.

Babylon does not just rule America at Christmas time, the Queen of Babylon sits in statues at every American City. Wake up 'asleep at the wheel' America.
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Srchng4Truth 
Srchng4Truth: I'm lost at Chronology's post. Is Queen Samerimes real with this cult? What does wake up asleep at the wheel America mean?
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chronology
chronology: You will just have to read my past posts about this. Unlike Blackshoes I have no patience with newbies. Although I think Blackie avoids exposing apostate cults.
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SillySally8
SillySally8: or.....4truth can go do his own research:
and make up HIS own mind
I like newbies js
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Srchng4Truth 
Srchng4Truth: Sally
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SillySally8
SillySally8: hello
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Srchng4Truth 
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Searching4, Chron is into conspiracy theory, big time.

See, a Christian minister had written a book called "The Two Babylons", where he tried to figure out which Queen was the fabled Biblical "Whore of Bablyon". He got a little carried away in his musings, weaving in Armenian folk legends and myths of an ancient Assyrian Queen who presumably conquered all of Asia, wrote every great piece of ancient literature, and built pretty much everything.

Then David Ick, a conspiracy theorist, picked up those musings and ran with them, finally concluding the whole human race has been secretly controlled by reptilian alien beings, of which Queen Semiramis had played a key role in establishing.

To my knowledge, the Men in Black have never been portrayed as reptilian stooges. Reminds me of a Big Bang episode where Sheldon is angry with his roommate, Leonard, for wanting to buy a kitchen table; consequently, he heads out to break up with his own girlfriend.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the real path to enlightenment, albeit that's where one might lift their foot to take their first step.

To me, its seems counter-intuitive to dwell in the past when attempting to move forward.
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chronology
chronology: 'Asleep at the wheel America' When America won her independence you could walk in any American Town of the day and virtually everyone you met who you asked if Christmas or Halloween should be massive commercial holidays they would look at you like you were crazy. 'Those festivals are evil and began in Babylon' they would tell you.

Since then 'Columbia' has fallen asleep at the wheel and today Halloween and Christmas are festivals involving the celebration of Babylonian Mystery Symbols.

As a Guy once said 'you cannot call up Demons and expect them to behave' America cannot party with Demons twice a year and expect to avoid trouble.

And don't forget 'Easter' and all those Eggs.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: I don't paint my eggs....I buy eggs from Chickens who lay them in different colours. This is not to say I lack an appreciation for the beautiful artwork of the traditional Ukrainian eggs (they suck the guts out of it first so, technically, they're just eggshells) and the famous nesting dolls. Indeed, there's a lot of talent and skill involved but that's a different matter.

I believe folk cultures should be protected and preserved as a world heritage - not that one should be personally attached to any traditions. There's a difference. Living our lives by the rituals and means of our forefathers is a kind of asceticism, which impedes progress.

By all means, keep your horse and cart but NOT instead of a car or bike unless you have no choice. Meanwhile, some things are easier to let go - it doesn't make sense to keep your wooden dentures.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: My first real peek at enlightenment came, seemingly by accident, when I was a young teen, laying in a hospital ward. There was an older woman next to me, an East Indian of Hindu Faith, the oldest surviving religion on earth. We both loved to talk so we got along great.

One day, she shared one of her traditional religious wisdoms. She said, "when we are born into the world, we cry hard, our knees are pulled up to our chest, and our fists are clenched tightly. But when we die, peace comes upon us and our hands open" .

The worldly journey ends with *detachement* - "letting go" to "let God". There is no other way to find the Kingdom of God.
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Srchng4Truth 
Srchng4Truth: Very deep
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Precious Pea
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chronology
chronology: Zan. It is not simply 'passing on folklore' . The Babylonian Mysteries migrated from Babylon to Europe and were seeded in Europe by the Roman Empire. From Europe the Mysteries were spread to the entire world via European Empires. But the most open and 'out there' manifestation of the Mysteries can be seen in the U.S.A. today at Christmas and Halloween. It is as if a giant python has slithered up the Statue of Liberty and wrapped itself around Lady Liberty. Most Americans have no idea of this when their cities are festooned with Babylonian symbols over the holidays.
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Srchng4Truth 
Srchng4Truth: You really believe Babylonian symbols have any power?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Chron, if they're "mysteries" then no one understands them, regardless of where they came from.

Christmas isn't a mystery - we all know what birth is about, that it's a Holy Day celebration, commemorating the Day God gave a Gift to the world.

However, the heathens have hijacked the occasion because they like getting gifts more than the actual gift - that's why one wraps the present so gloriously and stores include gift return receipts. The more gifts, the better. If you mentioned Babylon, they certainly wouldn't care because that has nothing to do with gifts. "Babylon" means "Gate of the City".

What I like about Christmas: While driving down the dark winter highway, enveloped in a gloomy blizzard, so thick I can't see where the road begins and ends, I suddenly see brightly coloured lights emerging from the fog. How warm and cheerful! More than once, those farmyard lights have guided me home safely. Thus, I'm grateful.

Halloween, as it's celebrated today in North America, has always only been for kids' fun. Its origins are with the Celts (not Babylon). Being the evening before the New Year, it's since morphed through many forms and is still doing so. Here, the thief is the Christians, I suppose to counter pagan ways; but now, it's an annual neighborhood "activity" that requires a splurge of competitive creativity.

I understand what you're getting at; nevertheless, I think it boils down to a matter of "taste". One can mess up any occasion with bad taste. I've heard there's been recent Christian objection to anything being represented as "evil" on Halloween.

That's a hard go because, essentially, its about what will make the kids happy. They wont be happy if you tell them "You can't wear that!". They'll be a lot happier if you say "we're going to do something different this year", then give them something else that's fun.
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chronology
chronology: Zan, the real meaning of 'Christmas' and other festivals is hidden from people. I posted on Trivia a while back about U.S. Embassy Staff in Iraq celebrating 'Christmas' or 'The Holidays' as Americans call them. Virtually every decoration and ceremony they were enjoying with their Iraqi colleagues originated in Nineveh or Babylon. The Fir Tree with presents arranged under it was common in Ancient Iraq as a ceremony for Nimrod who supposedly would return every Dec 25th and collect his presents. U.S. Embassy Staff and Iraqi colleagues wearing cone shaped party hats were identical to dress in the times of Nineveh and Babylon.
If a American lady ever commented to a Iraqi colleague how she was hard put at times to pay for her home back in Washington, the Iraqi colleague would point out that the terms of her loan were identical to Finance loans in Babylon that were outlawed around 3000 years ago as being unfair to borrowers. Wonder where the American Banks got their ideas from.

If the American lady ever showed her Iraqi friend an American Dollar and said the Eye on the Dollar was a Masonic symbol, the Iraqi would correct her pointing out is a symbol of the Ancient 'Saturnalian Cult' from Babylon. (And how exactly did ancient Iraqis know Saturn had Rings) .
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Zanjan
Zanjan: "the real meaning of 'Christmas' and other festivals is hidden from people."

In that case, it's meaningless to us; it can stay in the closet where nobody pays it any attention.

The fir, spruce or pine tree is the symbol of spiritual life because it represents the Revelation of God, which is evergreen.

Decorating trees, on the other hand, is an ancient folk custom, claimed by many European cultures as the originators of the idea. The Druids (ancient Celtic religion) took the embellishments to an extreme but at least didn't kill the trees.

That it's described in the Old Testament Bible tells us the local heathens did it even back then; that it was forbidden to God's people, the Jews, shows you nobody else thinks it applies to them, despite Jeremiah's reasoning.

We've always worn hats, mostly ridiculous hats and very tall hats, for whatever reason. Undoubtedly, that will always be, due to the diversity of people and cultures. God has no objection to hats.

However, when on *sacred ground*, God enjoins a behaviour that's out of the ordinary as a means of showing respect. This would change from time to time because society changes its views. God doesn't have to tell us about etiquette anymore because we're more civilized now - we have protocols to deal with ethnic and international diversity.


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Zanjan
Zanjan: Loan sharks have always been around. The Old Testament doesn't quite put a blanket ban on usury - it was forbidden to charge interest to the poor or other Jews. However, God has since *totally* forbidden usury so, only God -fearing souls would practice that.

I think the justice in the ban is more directed to relationships between individuals, not corporations. Why should *I* help you out...what's in it for ME? That's a pretty selfish attitude, not one you'd expect coming from an avowed servant of God, who's supposed to be very kind and hospitable towards others.

Meanwhile, you might notice numerous companies today offer zero% interest loans just to get you to buy their product. It makes sense in a competitive market. Win-win.

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Srchng4Truth 
Srchng4Truth: I agree about hidden origins of things. I think if no one knows about them, then they essentially don't matter except in a discussion about the origins of something.
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