which religion/belief is true? (Page 11) Cenababy: Zan, God will do this, IF you do that. He will continue to send His Revelators and we must obey Them - if we don't obey Them, the contract is broken between them, releasing all parties from responsibility. Covenant breakers must be ousted from the religious community, across the board (excommunication). The bible does not say this. zeffur: re: "The Tree of Life is there for all, dangling it's fruits for us to pick." That ^^ is another of Zanjan's deceptions. Below is what The Holy Bible 'actually' shows about the tree of life: "...the tree of life also in the midst of the garden [of Eden], and the tree of knowledge of good and evil." Gen 2:9 ref: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&version=KJV "So he drove out the man [from the garden of Eden]'; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life." Gen 3:24 ref: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3&version=KJV So, whatever fruit Zanjan thinks she's picking from is only a delusion in her mind. I'd like to see how she navigates that flaming sword--if she can even find it. Hydroman, I highly suggest you consult the source "The Holy Bible" and not consider ANYTHING Zanjan types to you as even possibly credible. She's apparently filled her brain with a hodge podge of misinformation of her own creation or from multiple non biblical sources--most of which are apparently incorrect--like her. (Edited by zeffur) Zanjan: Cena: "The bible does not say this. " The Bible *does* say this >> God will do this, IF you do that. He will continue to send His Revelators and we must obey Them........ Those are my own words. He DOES say this in His *own* words and has illustrated that, in every Holy Book. That's the eternal Covenant...very consistent. The others, you can sort for yourself. If you missed it, you're in trouble. It's not my job to quote *your* scriptures, only to know them well. Don't you remember what Noah did, and that Moses ordered the infidels to be slain, those Idol worshipers of the golden calf? Muhammad ordered the same. So did Baha'u'llah. There is nothing to suggest any texts are intending the literal murdering traitors - it's just a figure of speech - because God said "Thou shalt not kill". If there wasn't a Christian foundation for excommunication, that would make YOUR religion false, not the Faith of God. Once the unfaithful and disobedient enter a religion, it's no longer a safe refuge for God's children. As for the judgment, you know full well why Christians are waiting for the return of the promised Christ. They know that some of them wont be acceptable to Him. This is the same dynamic running through every single religion of God, without fail. Zanjan: All the religions of God were delivered as religions of peace. Sadly, few followers lived up to that; instead, they went to war. Cenababy: Ummm excuse you, catholics have excommunication, i dont. We dont have laws like they do, we have certain beliefs which ive posted before. As you know you can type into google. It will natch you with verses, neither sentences in your paragraph produced matches. Revelators, absolutely NOT. JESUS IS THE WAY. THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE ELSE. ZAN you can say anything you want, but, the bible is for Jesus follower. The bible is Jesus, Not mere revelators!. Zanjan: Cena: "We dont have laws like they do, we have certain beliefs which ive posted before." Like I said in my post - that's YOUR religion. Neither is indicative of the Faith practiced by Christ's orders. I wasn't refuting your faith - I was presenting mine. ONE God; He doesn't change His ways. briansmythe: Is that why bathi"s are hunted down in Iran ,Is that why ISIS destroy catholic Churches , Dont go worshiping Idols now Zanjan lol Zanjan: Brian, yours was a fair question. The followers of every new religion of God have always been persecuted by the followers of the religion of God that came before it. It's an interesting situation because nobody among the much older religions cared anymore - just the established religion where the Prophet-Revelator was living. The disingenuous didn't want to change the status quo and the clergy refused to let their flocks leave. In the face of that onslaught, the new religion needed heroes and, they all were. It boils down to a difference in values. The corrupt hate the un-corrupted. It will always be like that. In the case of Christianity, the pagans were the most vicious of persecutors, condemning Christians because they wouldn't declare that Caesar is God. Not that they had anything against Caesar, they just didn't believe that any man is a God. As for ISIS, their members know they've fallen out of God's favour; they're being eaten up inside by jealousy, contempt, and their own wrongs. They're empty. What else can they do but hate *everyone* and try to take them down with them? Fanatics are those who've perished. Every religion has had fanatics, but only after their religion got old. The reason old religions are still with us is that those who aren't fanatics or fearful remain to keep the flame. When it comes to values - that is, what we truly value - there's a divine filtering process that you and I can do NOTHING about unless we change our own values. (Edited by Zanjan) briansmythe: quotation mark , The corrupt hate the Uncorrupt , Quotation mark yes that"s verry true Zam a zan (Edited by briansmythe) Angry Beaver: Let's all agree that this song is a wonderful example of what should be: (Edited by Angry Beaver) Angry Beaver: Hey zeff, at least you try cogent argument and not copy/paste mate, i disagree with you but I respect your right to hold those opinions, yer OK mate And yeah, zanjan weirds me out lol (Edited by Angry Beaver) | Religion Chat Room 27 People Chatting Similar Conversations |