What is so hard about understanding Christianity?

Cenababy
Cenababy: what is so hard to understand about Christianity, faith in God, and why do so many christians on here, not talk about the fact that Christianity, IS A WAY OF LIFE, no more no less. People have so many misguided beliefs, they run in fear and a lot of christians on here, push them to run by not teaching that Jesus, is a way of life....

I sit in the religion room so often and hear things such as, well, why did eve eat the apple? First of all, the bible never says an "apple" that the first misconception. Secondly, I hear why would a just and perfect God destroy people ie; send them to hell. Here's my answer (not that I talk about hell ever on here, but let me try to answer the question asked). God is the Law, the judge, when you break the law (just as here with courts and Judges) there are consequences! Why should you get by with breaking his law, or not living your life rightiously?? If you break the law here, you get arrested, go to court, sit in front of a judge,jury and get a verdict , right? So, that is the consequence and depending on what the sentence is, there is the punishment.

Here's another, why would God give us free will knowing that we would do what we wanted anyway?
Well, first of all, we were created with a brain, to use, he gives us free will to choose, his way, his laws, to follow how to live righteously, how to love, if he wanted robots, he would not have given us a brain! So, why do you ask? I see, to blame God. Afterall, if he knew what we would do, then it is his fault . Why is that, as a parent you teach your children how to live and the do's and dont's, right? So, if you teach them, they use their brain and still go against you, then what? Is it "always" your fault, or are they responsible for stepping away from your rules, your guidance? See, if we think about things deeply enough, we might not ask such questions. It is each of use that have to either live/walk with God, or not, and in that choice, live with the consequences of those actions and / or choices.
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Cenababy
Cenababy: Christianity is a way of life, and I am so sick of watching "so called" christians come on to wire and condemn and bang people over the head with, you are going to hell, or, repent! Why dont you try to tell them why you follow God, answer questions they have, discuss issues, show them that following Jesus is a way of life. The bible is only a tool we use to guide us on our journey, to show us who we are without God, and who we can be with God.

I seldom even study the Old Testament, why? Because the OT is for the JEW, it is "pre-Jesus" yet it did talk about Jesus and his coming. The Laws, rituals and traditions were followed and given by God until Jesus would come, it was like a second chance, if you will.

So how many times does God have to give chances? NONE, he chooses to do so, because we belong to him, he is the creator, he loves us or why bother, however; he gets tired. I can only imagine .....If I were him, I would be done by the third time, and still because of Jesus in the flesh, you have another chance....

You see, it isn't just about the bible, following Jesus is a way of life, a way to live outside and not be "of the world" but "from it"., big difference.
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Cenababy
Cenababy: when a Christian accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior, they are not just baptised by water, oh no, it is a spiritual cleansing as well, we are re-born, out of the old and in to the new. It's like getting a fresh mind, to forget who we use to be, be who we need and want to be, and to learn to love, learn a new thinking.

Example: Old way = cursing all the time, lying, cheating, stealing, slander, malice, deceit, envy, coveting, murder, rape., etc., see Romans. All sin, all the way we shouldn't want to be. In our old life seperated from God, we are very tolerant of peoples bad behavior, when born again with a renewed spirit, we start to become less and less tolerant, it bothers us, shivers our spines when we here offensive things, see the injustice in the world, just as it should, we have a new heart and mind to KNOW that is not the way to be or what God intended for us.

Following with the new mind and heart, we see a more peaceful life, more understanding for others, love in a way we didn't before.

Example: one day on the road, I got REALLY upset with someone else, I was fussing and cussing up a storm, now did I care why they did what they did? NO, I only cared about ME....so after my fit, I realized something and immediately repented, I talked outlous to God, and told him I was sorry and that was just not right. You see, it is the "God Conscience" I call it, when we know we are doing wrong "with God", it eats at us until we correct it.....I now do that less and less, now, I steady myself and say Cena, don't you do it, let them be. It takes mastery I tell ya, cause I can get hot headed, lol....but, I work on it everyday.

The way of life is simple, I didn't have to change Cena accept for my mind and heart, I still enjoy some of the things I use to, I still love , I still go places, nothing changed accept IN ME and how I view the world, I didn't stop living!

I am still human, I still mess up but NOW, I have that God conscience and I don't want to be that way!

The last part of this is, When we don't walk with God, we are seperated from God . We all, I believe are born to need God, it is our society, this society that wants to play the card, oh you don't need anyone, live for yourself, live as one with nature! How's that working for you?

Once the knocking on my head got so loud I finally had to answer his call. Does everyone get this call? No, I don't think so , I think it depends on your heart, if it is open, if you belonged to God to begin with., you'll know if you do. I should really do a blog on my Testimony.....but not in public forum, lol...anyway just some thoughts to share....I may do more later!
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HydroMan
HydroMan: this is awesome
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Cenababy
Cenababy: Hydro, aware
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Cena: "Afterall, if he knew what we would do, then it is his fault"

Yeah, have heard that a million times. It's precisely because we know what our kids will do that we baby-proof our homes. However, we don't always agree on how to do that - depends on the parent's skills.

A friend of mine removed everything out of harms way - no doilies, ornaments, books, animals, cushions, photos, electronics, carpets, dirt etc......an austere and sterile environment. Another friend, a school teacher, put locks on all her lower cupboard doors and put up gates in every room entrance. Both chose the 'set it and forget it' method. I didn't do that. You see, I looked ahead...as God taught me to do.

Other homes wouldn't have those locks and gates, and they'd have pets and prized objects. I taught my kids by instilling the fear of the lord in them, so to speak - .a sure fire method of protection. I taught them while they were still crawling that there's a place for everything and everything has it's place - that must be absolutely respected. I wasn't speaking of tidy order but the rule of law.

If you don't give a supervised child a chance to learn, he wont; neither will he when he's unsupervised. They need to stay occupied. The child is willing to love and obey if the parent is willing to participate in the relationship with the same respect.

None of my kids ever went into any cupboards that were not their own - none ever got poisoned or harmed by toxins. From the age of two years old, I could take them to anyone's home and they'd never touch the ornaments, never move any piece from its rightful place. They never snooped. None fell down the stairs or broke a limb. I could take them shopping - they never stole anything, not even a grape to test its worth.

Unlike my two friends - neither of whom believed in God - I never had unhappy, problem teenagers.

As adults, they were the same way and have never departed from it. See, children can see what happens to kids who didn't follow rule of law. Ergo, it was an easy choice for my own children to make for themselves when I wasn't present. The other kids, however, were left to act on impulse, knowing no other way of life.

Thus, the skilled parent and God gives the child something curiously interesting they can learn, something to keep them involved together so they wont have to go where they shouldn't be.

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Cenababy
Cenababy: I never put anything up. My child knew better.
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dougkay8
dougkay8: There are NO gods except in your indoctrinated dull heads. There is NO evidence of any gods but children are, particularly, female children, targeted because they teach their children and so the disease spreads. The stories in the bible are so childish and obviously to an intelligent person impossible and untrue that they wouldn't give it a second thought.
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Cenababy
Cenababy: Doug why dont you get educated before spewing your stupidity. First of all apparently you dobt understand that people have a choice!!!! Children grow up and make those choices. Secondly go look up indoctrination! It means ANYTHING YOU TEACH. Believe what you want dulkhead .
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Doug, I agree the stories in the Bible appear like fairy tales but notice the age of the Bible - the delivery is geared to childish, mostly ignorant people who were visual learners. Everything had to have symbols so they could remember. I was just reading a bit the other day that was so revealing of that ancient mindset:

Hebrews 13:15:, "Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name".

Note: It's not God speaking here, it's a follower.

Seriously, how is praising God a sacrifice? Omg....it's just........so hard............to say thanks, you're the best! Arrrgh,,,,,,,,,,, I'm bleeeding here!

Next, how does God need their praise? Heck, they barely know Him. How is any praise they give Him worthy of His Sovereignty???? It's like the snail saying to me..gosh, you're so much smarter and wiser than the other snails....I approve!

The "fruit of the lips" is what you say, for good or evil - neither lasts. God already knows your heart so nothing you can say will surprise or inform Him. Nevertheless, He actually lets us express our emotions and desires..just like we've permitted you to do.

Sometimes, words can help or hinder others but mostly they're ignored. Everybody today knows that actions speak louder than words; when you're dead and gone, thus becomes everything you've said...... but not what you've done. This is why Jesus said 'bear fruit that lasts".......that is, leave a gift to posterity that's imperishable.

Understand that God loves His creation, at all stages of development - there's a time for everything and words are adapted to the listener's capacity. We don't hold babies and toddlers in contempt or speak to them gruffly. So, lighten up - they do give us a few good laughs.
Remember where you came from.
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HydroMan
HydroMan: "the stories in the bible are so childish and obviously to an intelligent person impossible and untrue that they wouldn't give it a second thought."

So a doctor that believes in God and is able to perform heart surgery, is an unintelligent person?
A soldier that believes in God and is willing to give his life for your freedom is an unintelligent person?
A police officer that believes in God and all the stories in the Bible and puts his life on the line every day is an unintelligent person?

its the ignorant remarks like yours that make me wonder just how much intelligence you have
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chronology
chronology: Hydro. I have know doctors who are hindu, I have no intention of converting to Krishner, I have known police men who are devoted followers of Horrorscopes, I have zero inclination of following them. I have known soldiers who are aithiest, I have no intention of joining their convinction.

The idea that people in the past were ingnorant is a misconception. Most people in Greece could listen to philosephy that would be too much for most people today. The Roman Army had numerous diverse skilled people from Road builders to map makers to bridge builders.

The real problem today is that people have not taken the trouble to check the facts in the Bible.
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tularcitas
tularcitas: Cena, I think it has a lot to do with the modern science world we live in. There are things surrounding Jesus that are contrary to the laws of science. We have a orderly, set rules of physics, etc. With the Jesus story so many things are in the realm of what could be called "science fiction."
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Zanjan
Zanjan: There's nothing Jesus said or did that can't be explained either by science or religion. God MADE the laws of physics; He doesn't break His own laws. Think of the paradox created if He were to do that! The destruction would be unspeakable. Why??
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tularcitas
tularcitas: Yes..But you can understand why people might be in wonder...What Jesus did was not something that people see everyday.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: That's because the people were blind. It's not that hard for people to change their opinions and their mind when someone wiser comes along.
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tularcitas
tularcitas: If you were standing by a lake and saw someone suddenly walk across it, would you think that was normal?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Yes, I live in the land of sloughs and highway mirages so maybe try a different example, one that fits a spiritual 'vision'.
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tularcitas
tularcitas: If someone suddenly turned water into wine.
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tularcitas
tularcitas: I was just trying to answer Cena's question, Bama...I'm not trying to be argumentative at all.
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ala_freaking_bama
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tularcitas
tularcitas: Oh, okay..My bad. But..i think it is difficult to accept that miracles happened for many people.....We're so earth bound and needing a scientific explanation for everything.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Plain water may be clear but also bland or bitter. Logos is Knowledge - turning bad drink into a good one is easy through the process of fermentation. Ponder on that awhile.
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tularcitas
tularcitas: Okay, Zan......
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