Do Christians and Muslims worship or have the same "God"

Cenababy: ANSWER: "NO"

The Muslim and Christian views of God have some similarities. Christians believe in one eternal God Who created the universe, and Muslims apply these attributes to Allah. Both view God as all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-present.

A vital difference between the Islamic and Christian views of God is the biblical concept of the Trinity. In the Bible, God has revealed Himself as one God in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. While each Person of the Trinity is fully God, God is not three gods but three in one.

God’s Son came in the form of man, a truth called the incarnation (Luke 1:30-35; John 1:14; Colossians 2:9; 1 John 4:1-3). The Lord Jesus Christ conquered the penalty and power of sin by dying on the cross (Romans 6:23). After rising from the dead, Jesus went back to heaven to be with His Father and sent the Holy Spirit to believers (Acts 1:8-11). One day, Christ will return to judge and rule (Acts 10:42, 43). Those who have trusted in the Lord Jesus will live with Him, but those who refuse to follow Him must be separated in hell from the holy God.

Cenababy: “The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him” (John 3:35-36). Either Jesus bears the wrath of God for your sin on the cross or you bear the wrath of God for your sin in hell (1 Peter 2:24).

The Trinity is essential to the Christian faith. Without the Trinity, there would be no incarnation of God’s Son in the Person of Jesus Christ. Without Jesus Christ, there would be no salvation from sin. Without salvation, sin would condemn all to an eternal hell.

So, do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? A better question is, “Do Christians and Muslims both have a correct understanding of who God is?” To this question, the answer is definitely no. Because of crucial differences between the Christian and Muslim concepts of God, the two faiths cannot both be true. The biblical God alone addresses and solves the problem of sin by giving His Son.

Cenababy: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:16-18).

Cenababy: Interesting how it says above "Either Jesus bears the wrath of God for your sin on the cross or you bear the wrath of God for your sin in hell (1 Peter 2:24)......I may do a blog on "The wrath of God", Romans! what is his wrath? His wrath is allowing people to be just who they are, to run their own lives, make their own choice, "free will" and the consequences there of.

HydroMan: Muslims worship a pagan moon god. Muhammad simply took various concepts from the Bible, and elevated his god to the One True God

Cenababy: Seems so, although they argue that as well.

Zanjan: Cena: "The Trinity is essential to the Christian faith. "

Christ never mentioned it. Never used the word or any such description of God. Neither did any Prophet of God in the history of mankind. That's a totally consistent, glaring omission. For an idea that modern Christians say is so important, how is it early Christians, never heard of it yet were better Christians than moderns?

If you take away the idea of the trinity, does that mean all Christians become atheists? If so, they're putting conditions on God that were invented by humans after Christ. God must not mean much to them if all it takes is a human interpretation to abandon Him!

"“Do Christians and Muslims both have a correct understanding of who God is?”"

Absolutely not. God has always said His essence is unknowable, in every scripture in history, bar none. Furthermore, assuming that God ranks above all life forms means nothing when one acts like it's man who does.

"So, do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? "

They think they do. Some members of *both* religions worship their own false idols instead. If people didn't always embellish and screw up religion, God wouldn't have to send another one. We would have stayed with Noah to this day; and, the earth would have remained clean.

Zanjan: Hydro: "Muhammad simply took various concepts from the Bible, and elevated his god to the One True God "

One can say exactly the same thing of Jesus, ripping off from the Jewish religion. The Jews did and still do make some excellent points.

Cenababy: Ummmmm

ghostgeek: Yes, Jews, Christians, and Muslims have the same God. The fact that they cannot agree amongst themselves as to the nature of this "God",only goes to show that their beliefs have no basis in fact.

ghostgeek: Forget what the Jews say. They cannot bear the truth:

Deuteronomy 5:5 { New International Version } (At that time I stood between the LORD and you to declare to you the word of the LORD, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.) And he said:

Three million Jews did not hear God speak to them directly, though they dispute this.

Cenababy: Ghost we do not worship the same God.

chronology: Dr Sigmund Freud has competently demonstrated that all religious services are compulsions prompted by the same unconscious craving for security and reassurance. No matter what religion is the vehicle for this satisfaction of assurance.

As for which group is getting it's facts right about the Deity is a matter of opinion.

Zanjan: There is only one true God - ONE Creator of all things in existence, God of all man kind.

If one is asserting there's multiple gods, examples of religious people with this belief are Hindus and Christians, despite denials and tap dancing by members.

If you assert someone is worshiping idols - false god(s) - then you need to back that up by indicating what they're DOING. No need to name names, just the action (s).

Does God change into a different entity every time He adds to His words or changes the way He says them? Does He change, depending on how each person understands Him? That would be ridiculous because 1. we, ourselves, don't do that....and 2. God is changeless.

Zanjan: Chron, since when was there ever a human who didn't crave security and reassurance?? Insurance Agencies, Pharmaceutical companies, Banks and Lawyers got rich on that; meanwhile, the government ensures a good chunk of the public purse goes to keep the military and police forces up to spec.

Freud makes the desire for safety and happiness sound like a horrid flaw, a symptom of neurosis. Notice that Freud was well-paid, despite being unable to cure his patients. He turned out to be wrong on just about everything.

chronology: Zan with respect please don't try and pass your self off as someone who has studied Freud's work. Was he correct about everything? No, but his explanation of religious obsession compulsion is sound.

Zanjan: NOT. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

ghostgeek: How can Jews, Christians, and Muslims say they don't worship the same God when everything they believe rests on the authority of the Old Testament? If every claim made in the Old Testament was false, where would that leave these three religions? The answer is simple: without foundations for their beliefs.

Zanjan: Technically, you're right - insofar as what people use to prove their own Prophet is a true One. If they stopped doing that, it's anybody's guess how few would become believers.

I've met some who call themselves Christian but think Moses was a fraud, even a door-knocking Bible thumper. I find that shocking, considering Christ's own statements.

In one local church, more than 75% of the Pastor's sermons are from passages in the OT because, it seems, there's not enough stuff in the NT to say what hasn't already been said. Muslims, on the other, hand rarely mention the OT.

My own religion is so far removed in time from the OT, it can stand alone, in my opinion. We, in our collective memories, know enough about right from wrong by now, there's no need to re-take that class; it's like math - once you know how to add and subtract, you can move on to algebra.

We only need to have guidance for what God wants us to do now and tomorrow., considering all the new things that have appeared in the world.

Cenababy: We are backwards here, jews worship God yes, muslims worship a prophet a book, christians do not worship a "prophet" they worship Jesus which btw was no mere prophet! Jesus is the Christ. Now, there is toyr difference.

As far as the tribity is concerened , the Godhead if you will, the book of Romans was clear as well as John. There are many verses to back this up howecer I am not goibg to argue!

Zanjan: " christians do not worship a "prophet""

So, you think Christ wasn't a Prophet (didn't have the ability), even though He was like Moses? In the long view, I see that Christianity is a monotheistic religion but Christians prefer a demi-god or two; and, for the most part, Christianity wears a pagan skin.

This shouldn't be surprising. The Jews fell into that trap twice but God pulled them back from it so they have no remaining conceptual problem with the station of Moses.

What anyone, including Christians, worship is entirely an individual's privilege. One can't force everybody to worship the same thing. Belief isn't the same thing as worship - what one worships is what they hold onto the tightest.

I can see what all Christians share in common is an extreme attachment to tradition and family approval; thus, it appears to me *that's* what they worship.

duncan124:

Well, this thread tells a tale!

Father, Son and ...not a wife to be found.

The " Station of Moses " .... like Euston and Piccadilly Circus?

Zanjan: According to Jesus, the "wife" is the church. His children and relatives are the sheep, and Jesus is the Gate. ( the gate as a portal, not the lilt to one's walk)

Ancients needed something in concrete (worldly) terms to use as a comparison to spiritual things; otherwise, they couldn't relate to them. Even Jesus's child-like parables stumped the Jews. Like, they're a no-brainer, eh.

Jesus repeatedly addressed the clergy, saying "why don't you understand what I'm saying"? He says He came to them speaking in clear language. Since they couldn't answer, He took a firm authoritative approach (no more Mr. Nice Guy) - basically, He told them their hearts weren't in the right place. He called them "children of the devil" - right to their faces. You can imagine how well that went down.

The Jews knew the difference between lesser and greater Prophets because they had both. Later Christians didn't - they'd only had one so, nothing with which to compare.

Christ told them He didn't come for His own glory and certainly didn't want humans to glorify Him either. The only glory, He said, was that which came from God. In other words, you can take your opinions and stick them where the sun don't shine.

Thank you, Jesus, You were right.

Cenababy: And yet people bowed and worship him.!!!

ghostgeek: People also bow and worship Allah, and any number of other gods.

S W l N E:
Technically, the three main Abrahamic gods don't worship the same gods.
Islam: Allah only
Judaism: YHWH only
Christianity: A trinity

If Cena claims: "We are backwards here, jews worship God yes..."

If the Jews worship God then isn't she acknowledging that as a Christian she is not worshiping God?

Jews do not view Jesus as God. They view one being as God, YHWH. Just as the Muslims don't hold to the Trinity belief so too the Jews do not. You list that as a reason why Christians and Muslims don't worship the same god, then it should also hold true to a reason why Christians and Jews don't worship the same god.