Reincarnation

mrjoe361: I have a theory in regards to reincarnation. I believe that when we die, we get reincarnated back into ourselves and have to replay our past life. That's why we get 'bad feelings' or experience deja vu with certain situations. We have experienced that moment before and our mind is trying to get us to come up with a better solution to the issue. I would love to hear what others think about my theory and also some of your theories in regards to reincarnation. Thanks!

tix mascot: I have been "brainwashed" by my wife, who is a spiritist, about her view on reincarnation, which I happen to partly disagree with. If you want to debate with us, send me a PM and I'll direct you to where we interact in respectful and polite surroundings. Here, you will sooner or later be ridiculed and harassed if you experess unorthodox opinions + distracted by trolls and unwanted participants...

Zanjan: Deja vu is the feeling you've been in that identical moment once before - that means this moment must have occurred in your present lifetime. For example, you can't have a deja vu of being the basket holder at the guillotine during the French Revolution.

Suppose the scenario contained certain people, clothing, furniture and gestures - that's what you recall being in the middle of; this is actually the realization of a precognitive scene. One reason you'd forgotten the scenario might be that you'd first seen it occur in a dream, while you were sleeping. The soul's subconscious can certainly travel to the future when the conscious mind is hibernating so, that extra input doesn't get in the way.

There's another reason. Science has proven that the mind can sense a certain picture 5 seconds before it actually occurs in real life. The explanation is a magnetic resonance they call "presentment". This has to do with the flow of light, which travels in waves, and its speed.

For some reason, under certain conditions, that which will be is a *packet of future information* leaked back to you in the here and now, being so fast you had no time to digest it. At best, all you had was a guess or a hunch, which turned out to be correct.

If you apply the theory of re-incarnation to unexplained bad feelings, what theory do you apply to unexplained good feelings?

Zanjan: We each have a soul, which God formed at the moment of our conception; it's associated with our particular body and is our identity, never having known any other association. There can be no living human body without a soul. This isn't a theory, it's a disclosure stated by God.

Therefore, another soul can't take charge of your body, share with your soul in control of your body, or kick the first soul out. When the body dies, no soul can become associated with it other than its own, not that any soul would want to.

When the body dies, the soul continues to the next plane of existence, no longer needing to live on the earthly plane for he/she has seen it and felt it, having established the necessary connection.

IamcRackaddiction: yes, the soul is intrinsically bound to the human incarnation. the soul is also an entity, segmented into 12 projections of consciousness into the first triad of dimensional existence. time is not linear, time is more of a reference point in a coordinate of space-time. so when consciousness is incarnated, there is no 're'-incarnation, you experience it this way maybe, but these existences are in parallel physical planes.

what i mean by that is if you imagine time like the infinity figure 8 and suppose you marked plot lines along the path of the figure eight. now imagine if you flipped the figure eight on its side and it became a four dimensional figure, extending from its nexus point and growing out radially.

lore has it that the time line of the human evolution has been fragmented into 12 fragments called time-loops. a time loop is one which repeats itself because it has broken away from the original time line. more on that later.

when deja vu happens, events seem familiar to you, uncannily familiar. sometimes you can even guess what happens next. sometimes you have experienced it in a dream. there are many ways to experience deja vu. an unknown and soon to be explored phenomena is residual cellular memory, though the scientific community will call it something else.

when the human is conceived, in those 9 months, memory codes are being sequenced from the mother to form templates of dense matter and energy structures to bind the consciousness with the energy/etheric body. the human container is being prepared on the cellular level with memories being coded via DNA. 'coded' memory is decoded by the subconscious mind, the human body is said to once have been able to sequence all the memory in a single lifetime, but has since lost that ability and this has given a need for the fragmentation of the human time line. beyond that is beyond our comprehension which are the cycles that do work outside of our current awareness.

okay, the other thing i must explain is when 49 days come to pass after conception, the energetic body is ready to hold consciousness, the mother's body is also ready to allow the passage of consciousness through her energy structure into that of the child. this is why the mother becomes sick with 'pregnancy flu'. because the child she bares carries more awareness, the energy of the bond is higher than that of the mother, these minute increments disrupt the energy body of the mother which in turn disrupts the physical function of her container.

after 49 days, the consciousness has bound to the human fetus, and begins to 'download' information into the template structure of resonating DNA. the amount of information is very large, containing emotional memory, physical memory, mental memory, and etheric memory. also containing the akashic records, the memory of your other 11 incarnations, which can sometimes become sequenced by your subconscious into, as zanjan has indicated, precognitive memory. your subconscious is able to sequence it because, also as zanjan has indicated, you have experience similar events. sometimes a dream experience may provide a way for the ego to explain familiarity about a moment in their life they call deja vu.

the soul is said to inhabit a plane, as zanjan has mentioned, in which the soul continues to live in after the physical container terminates. this is true, that plane is of the second level of density, the second triad of dimensional bands which organize the existence of that identity; the astral mind, the achetype, and angelic mind, the superconsciousness. the superconsciousness is the collective human self-aware nature.

PyroclasticFlo: cool, zin!

Zanjan: I'm not crazy about using the word "incarnate" since it's so often misunderstood and misused. It's merely a literary term.

One needs to understand what a soul is.

Both humans and animals have a natural *Spirit* - that is, genetic traits which form their identity. Each being has its own mind, operating within those parameters and expressing a unique, inborn personality with power to communicate its desires and wishes.

This creature's mind, although informed by a collective genetic memory, also acquires new information and gains experience - it doesn't incorporate that into its own existence. Some data, however, is transferred into the "collective genetic code" of the species.

When the physical body dies, be it animal or human, its spirit entity continues to exist because it isn't and never was physical.

Now, only humans have a soul - this is a bonus, you see. Man has TWO natures - two identities yet only ONE, inborn personality. Therefore, the soul has properties above an beyond that which is its natural *Spirit*. There was a time when these two words (spirit and soul) were used interchangeably because people were ill-informed.

The essence of the soul is incomprehensible - only God has that knowlwedge; but, we know many of the things the soul can do and we know the reason it was created.

Technically, the soul develops alongside the physical body with its *Spirit* but isn't contained by the body since its not a physical entity. Therefore, whatever happens to the physical body does NOT happen to the soul. The soul intelligently connects to God, tapping into advanced spiritual powers; it's the only vehicle that can express some of His divine attributes. Think of it as an extension.

The state of consciousness or unconsciousness is attributed to physical brain function - that has nothing to do with the spirit and soul, which are always operating.

By the way, science now claims there are "nine" dimensions. Of course, scientific studies are limited to the physical plane.

Zanjan: Getting into the problem of people saying they've had a memory from 1456, where they were a pilgrim who got killed, this is merely a mental transference of thought.

Sure, we all know that many pilgrims died or were killed; we were all taught about their lifestyle, clothing and various experiences. It's easy to recall memories of what we were taught but when it feels like we've actually lived it, been right in the middle of the fray, feeling all the emotions, then we're addressing one's current state of mind.

Was the individual under a state of hypnosis, vulnerable to suggestibility? Has the brain's wiring mis-fired and moved the imaginative scene up a wrong path, confusing the individual? Is it possible that this is a random thought picked up from someone who's in the Hereafter, who actually did live at that time?

With so many questions present, no explanation can be honestly embraced and accepted until evidence has verified the actual conditions of each scenario.

Zanjan: To recap, the brain works in strange ways - some memories are deposited but never acknowledged - that is, the brain observed and filed the details automatically in the background. Other memories must be consciously approved for later recall.

Nevertheless, some are lost forever yet some are occasionally re-discovered by accident. There's nothing tangible about them. The brain is a fickle organ, which often receives our curses!

The soul, on the other hand, could be compared to being born with a perfect eye, which has great potential but can't see anything until one fully opens the eyelid and moves into suitable light - the greater the light, the more details it can see. The soul also could be likened to a perfect ear - remove the plug of ear wax and voila! It's a whole new world, eh.

The soul has amazing potential but its powers are mostly latent while living a material existence - only when it's been given the right environment to operate at optimum, does one see some of its amazing power while still on this earthly plane.

We need spiritual education and training to accomplish that - only a divine teacher can deliver suitable instructions; yet only sincere desire and love to learn, along with persistent effort to practice obedience to those instructions will bring us to understanding and attainment.

GeraldtheGnome: Grammatical errors were made on this forum. None of what the one who made the forum told us made sense, but it was very interesting though. Some people have other ideas on what reincarnation is, like the chick in this very cool video. Some of it is like what happened in my own life in a way and also I did 'pray' as the video has in it.



Then there's the terrible thought of coming back as yourself only in the vaguest way. "I don't want to live my life again !"



I like the idea of coming back as myself in a certain way, I don't believe that it's even possible though.

GeraldtheGnome: I can’t really rule out the possibility of somehow coming back, not exactly looking as myself though, nor would I want to live with everything that I remember and with what has happened so far and with whatever will happen. I have though often thought that what I was told about here might happen and in some way I want it to happen. The thing is I just don’t know how it could happen and I really think that it’s highly unlikely that it will happen. This is probably because I became an extremely sceptical person which started to happen when I was 11.