History of the Bible Auphirah: Many Christians do not know the basic history of the Bible because there were many Bibles throughout Christianity. What was the purpose of so many Bibles created by men of this world ? What about the Ancient Bibles of the past like Peshitta? What were the changes within the Bible? Jesus stated the following about the Scribes: Jeremiah 8Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) Punishment for Judah’s Leaders 8 “How can you claim, ‘We are wise; the law of the Lord is with us’? In fact, the lying pen of scribes has produced falsehood. 9 The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and snared. They have rejected the word of the Lord, so what wisdom do they really have? 1. The Great Bible of 1539 was the first authorized edition of the Bible in English, authorized by King Henry VIII of England to be read aloud in the church services of the Church of England. The Great Bible was prepared by Myles Coverdale, working under commission of Thomas, Lord Cromwell, Secretary to Henry VIII and Vicar General. In 1538, Cromwell directed the clergy to provide "one book of the bible of the largest volume in English, and the same set up in some convenient place within the said church that ye have care of, whereas your parishioners may most commodiously resort to the same and read it."en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great 2. William Tyndale Bible : The Tyndale Bible generally refers to the body of biblical translations by William Tyndale. Tyndale’s Bible is credited with being the first English translation to work directly from Hebrew and Greek texts. Furthermore, it was the first English biblical translation that was mass-produced as a result of new advances in the art of printing. The term Tyndale's Bible is not strictly correct, because Tyndale never published a complete Bible. Prior to his execution Tyndale had only finished translating the entire New Testament and roughly half of the Old Testament.[1] Auphirah: 3. Geneva Bible: The Geneva Bible is one of the most historically significant translations of the Bible into English, preceding the King James translation by 51 years.[1] It was the primary Bible of 16th century Protestantism and was the Bible used by William Shakespeare[citation needed], Oliver Cromwell, John Knox, John Donne, and John Bunyan, author of Pilgrim's Progress (1678).[2] It was one of the Bibles taken to America on the Mayflower (Pilgrim Hall Museum and Dr. Jiang have collected several bibles of Mayflowerpassengers). The Geneva Bible was used by many English Dissenters, and it was still respected by Oliver Cromwell's soldiers at the time of the English Civil War, in the booklet "Cromwell's Soldiers' Pocket Bible". 4. King James Bible: The King James Version (KJV), also known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translationof the Christian Bible for the Church of England that begun in 1604 and completed in 1611.[a] Auphirah: 5. Gutenberg Bible: The Gutenberg Bible (also known as the 42-line Bible, the Mazarin Bible or the B42) was the first major book printed using mass-produced movable type. It marked the start of the "Gutenberg Revolution" and the age of the printed book in the West. Widely praised for its high aesthetic and artistic qualities,[1] the book has an iconic status. Written in Latin, the Gutenberg Bible is an edition of the Vulgate, printed by Johannes Gutenberg, in Mainz, in present-day Germany, in the 1450s. Forty-eight copies, or substantial portions of copies, survive, and they are considered to be among the most valuable books in the world, even though no complete copy has been sold since 1978.[2][3] The 36-line Bible, believed to be the second printed version of the Bible, is also sometimes referred to as a Gutenberg Bible, but is likely the work of another printer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_ Auphirah: One must return to the beginning when the Laws first begin from Ancient Times! There is nothing new under the sun because new religion is old religion repackage to the masses who lack knowledge of past religion history. Is the Bible about freedom, justice, peace, truth, instructions, teachings, allegory, metaphorical or tool to enslave the masses with fear and slavery? How will believers know the difference between freedom or slavery of religion? Why so many books are missing from the Bible that are mention in the Bible(Jasher)? I hope true believers are reading the Word for themselves to receive truth because man will mislead; the ego( pride )is powerful within a man because he becomes his own god. Remember the Senate voted to make Caesar a GOD of this world. Are we serving god-man or the Divine Creator of life?
 Zanjan: Most are given away free.......they have very tiny print and see through pages. Those that are sold are specially bound with illuminated/highlighted/graphic editions in various sizes, which are purchased from its publisher. I have a huge one I can hardly lift that I got from Reader's Digest 30 years ago. Then I downloaded a pretty cool one from Googleplay - I don't have to lift that one. "What was the purpose of so many Bibles created by men of this world ?" Fact is that the Revelations were in chunks, scattered here and there throughout various letters and songs of remembrances, all of which which later were compiled into books, then these books were later re-arranged. The numbers for verses were added in recent times; these were in keeping with the rhyme of verse in chant, also serving as reference points. This is important to note: certain words were used because they rhymed - it's not that people actually spoke that way or that the Revelation was delivered in rhyme. The arrangement of the Jewish Bible is different than of the Christian Bible. The Old and New Testament wasn't always together and today, still isn't always published together. The main reason for 'updating' Bibles is change in the English language and alphabet itself. The quality of translation increased when the original Greek was used as base. Then the quality increased again with the transition from independent work to teamwork. When a team of scholars in various disciplines worked on the same project, the technical quality increased but not the quality of interpretation. The latter took a slide when new issues of the modern Bible were made without just cause. What used to be footnotes ended up in the translation itself. (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: The problem is antiquity - it reaches a point of no return. People lose understanding. However, if one acquires the spiritual virtues, they'll have knowledge of truths in dynamics and be able to use that to spot the significant errors in translation. Consequently, the Voice of God is recognizable as distinct from the voice of men. I was just reading a passage in the NIV that had Jesus bidding His followers to rise up and fight against the authorities. That ain't Christ talking! (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: I'm sure the Bible will continue its evolution. Decades ago, I prayed for a *footnote bible* - not a preacher edition but unbiased factual information. I wanted details on each page/section - date, place, references to names, objects, explanation of a ritual, ranks and non-religious events happening in the known world of the time, the Greek word for a controversial meaning. To me, the Bible without context isn't particularly useful. Finally, the Bible for Dummies was published - I highly recommend it. (Edited by Zanjan) Auphirah: The Bible cannot evolve ! During my spiritual journey of learning TRUTH that I am able to evolve with freedom and connection to the Divine Creator. A person must listen to the inner voice that speak of TRUTH within the journey of life. Each individual on this earth has a journey to seek truth, wisdom and enlightenment and each person journey is different(Truth). It beautiful to share one's truth with each other to have a common ground. Learning from each other is powerful because we are Truth Seekers. Zanjan: The Bible unfolds as its prophecies are fulfilled and people recognize that. It will continue to change (in printed form) as language changes, and as more people become better informed of ancient history. That's evolution. The Bible as seen from the eyes of the ancients is NOT the Bible as seen from modern eyes. In those days, they saw 'through a glass darkly". That's evolution. The messages, on the other hand, are the substance, and that's eternal. You'll see them repeated in every scripture that came after that. If we ARE truth seekers, we wont ignore any scriptures, whenever they appeared. That's evolution. (Edited by Zanjan)  chronology: ghost. Catholics do not see the Bible as the final word of God's message to man. They his Grace the Pope as God's spokesperson and themselves as the chosen church and people of God. I think there are about 200 other groups who make the same claim, but hey the catholic claim would be seen by you as as good as anyone elses. Unless am mistaken, the catholics are the only group of christians who do not hold the bible as the 'rule book' of christian life, they hold church leaders today have the right and freedom to decide what God thinks about this or that issue. Well that is their view, it is their choice.  ghostgeek: Religion may evolve but the Bible, the printed word, isn't about to change. Well, I suppose that isn't quite true, given that the Bible is widely translated and so open to interpretation on the meaning of certain words, but the book in the original languages is now fixed. ghostgeek: Not that we have the original text, so it could have evolved at some point in its early history. chronology: Well I don't know ghost. Gays have insisted that some of the comments about them are mistranslations in the past and modern translations tend to use different expressions which in the past used to refer to 'sodomites' . Many Gays find this offensive, they say their love making does not involve sodomy so this does not refer to them. Personally I stay out of these arguments, the Church of England often makes friendly sounding comments after debates which it later seems to back down from. The last one I remember was a comment that said there is no hell, the idea is out of step with a loving caring God torturing and burning and inflicting pain on people for ever. The Church of England comment was that this is not possible to say God would do to people, often children. But the catholic church still holds to the idea of a hell for ever and ever and ever. Zanjan: Jesus spoke Aramaic ( a form of Hebrew) so, that was the original language. However, it was translated to Greek - NOT the original, then from Greek to Latin....it's like tripping from earth to Pluto. Not that Christians read or accept *everything* in the Bible anyway. I find they tend to skip over the dicey parts every time; for example, when an Apostle slams non-believers with every description of negative behaviour because God has turned them over to their lusts, then turns to the believers, saying "YOU have NO excuse!" Personally, I find that amusing. They didn't pull any punches in those days. Chron, I think the Catholic church still holds to the notion of purgatory as well, which is a half-way house between heaven and hell, a place for the shunned, far away from reasonable folks. I must say, it does seem strange to me that clergy describe how believers acted 2 thousand years ago, enjoining us to act the same way, even though we don't have wooden wheels and carry swords. What happened to progress? (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: Every religious sect or new religion starts out as a passionate whisper, with it's Prophet calling to the sincere ones. Once this movement has the minimum number of followers required, it steps up the volume. The bang doesn't happen until others - that is, the clergy - perceive the new organization as a threat to the status quo. (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: If that's true, it isn't what you think it is either. Where we agree is that it's gone through some major transformations. That doesn't mean everything in it is of a dubious nature or totally accurate either. There are definitely parts missing, information that would be great to know but it seems the ancients either didn't think such things were important or they didn't know. I'm guessing the latter, considering so many early Christians didn't even know where their own holy places were located until 300 years later. Even then, a Roman woman had to take a guess. One thing is certain - the Bible is not a work of fiction. (Edited by Zanjan)  calybonos: I have a first edition, autographed copy that I found at a garage sale. The guy I bought it from said it's been handed down in his family all the why back when Adam still had all his ribs, and before he started begetting. He seemed like an honest guy. I almost felt bad practically stealing it for 25 cents. | Religion Chat Room 31 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
