Evidence of God, And his Words

chayim: The first and simple evidence is
That it cannot be an existence the whole universe by itself
Simple

Zanjan: You mean to say the universe couldn't have come into existence by itself.

Science will tell you it had a cause, and God tells you it had a cause - but religion and science have disagreed on the cause. This is only due to perspective - REALITY IS ONE so, both should agree as they handshake in different fields of knowledge.

Science gives a physical explanation of the beginning of the universe, while God gives you an explanation of its purpose. There's no disagreement on the situation that there was darkness before the light burst forth from a single point.

Simple logic and intelligent, unbiased reasoning agrees with both science and religion that, as a physicist once said, "the odds that the universe came into being by accident are about the same as the oxford dictionary being the result of an explosion in a print shop."

Therefore, our exploration is to seek out the Laws of Order and learn how and why they work under what circumstances.

chayim: I know that the universe has a cycle and way how it was created and evolved, but when you go into it, this alone has a cause, and must have a cause, the universe and the whole created nature is not like what many think that God created it and finish, of course it has a cycle and way how it works and evolves, and king david said in psalms, everything what God did, does, and created has wisdom, its not that he simple said something and boom it got created, it means that God created everything from him himself, from his power himself, from his being himself, all kind of beings and powers that you can acknowledge and realize came from a more deeper being, this is God himself, the kabalah says that everything is evolved from being to being from God till like what it is now

steindorff1: what a crazy theory !!!

Zanjan: The way you write that, Chayi, sounds like pantheism. Many believe that God is actually IN everything, which isn't true. The Creator is the Source but not part of His creation.

Everything was in the mind of God as thought (idea) before He brought it into reality. He did this with the power of love.

chayim: Its not pantheism, even everything thing is from God, does not mean that it is God himself, it is evolved from him

Zanjan: Then 'evolved' isn't the word you want to use. Everything in existence 'issued' from Him.

You're not the right one to explain what the Bible says, Chayi, and your own thoughts on it fail when you attempt to communicate them because your command of English is too poor. You'd be better off sticking to commenting on historical accounts and explaining cultural practices.

Evidence of God isn't a statement about Him. You need to present something others can see.

ghostgeek: Why can't you say the Universe has always existed? By positing an Eternal god all you are saying is that there is no need for a first cause, something has always existed; God. So why not the Universe instead?

chayim: Because it does not make sense, and it cannot be that the physically universe that its only a piece of physics (you can dig and do whatever you want to all planets like you do to this planet) that they were by theirself from always

Zanjan: " Because it does not make sense,"

Of course it does! Matter can't come out of nothing; energy doesn't come out of nothing, the forces can't come out of nothing, rules cant come out of nothing. This means there must always have been something.

If there was nothing before the existence of something, then God, Himself, couldn't have existed.

It makes perfect sense that something - some power, energy and elements have always existed, if we are to understand that God always existed. I don't aim to get into proving existence of God - there's two topics for that; I'm presenting evidence that something has always existed, and always will.

Scriptures say that God was 'pre-existent' (an unfortunate term) because He existed before the "act of creation", in the same way you existed before you made anything, and in the same way that God existed before He became known to us, and before He molded us into what we are, insofar as our character is concerned.

Therefore, God thought about that 'something'; then He then took that something and formed it into an order of things, establishing laws which support the construction of all shapes, forms and dynamics from which no thing can depart. These laws cover both the physical and spiritual planes of the universe, in all its dimensions.

That means it should be incredibly easy to find evidence of how God works through any field of knowledge available to us. If that weren't possible, we'd remain as nothing more than animals, equally unaware.

steindorff1: what an useless conversation , of course does exist GOD , and its up to you to recognize their actions , its inside us....!!! Human been are a strange race , they have monters inside and ghosts t who are living too and sometimes they win !!!

Zanjan: Once you've beaten them, they can never win again.

Zanjan: Learn the Ways of God and you'll see the secrets of the universe unfold. You can also do that in reverse and come up with the same understanding but it takes longer. Working principles are all repeated, again and again without fail.

When God establishes a universal law, He doesn't break it because it's perfect. So are His promises.

God doesn't change His Ways.....watch how He moves through nature and through the spirit. A quality grasp of this knowledge is how prophecies are made and *mysteriously* become fulfilled. No man can chain up the Hand of God or interfere with His Plan for mankind.