Who Believes in the Devil? (Page 2)

deuce916
deuce916: All you do is make me want to love the devil.
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deuce916
deuce916: He's in the same situation as us, so I'd stick up for him. Poor fella, imagine being created as the devil. & isn't it interesting how he is invisible to us as well.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: So what you're saying is God wanted everyone to be happy - what a nice God, that He allowed you to eat what you like and think for yourself!

But Oh, that devil isnt so generous.....no, you can't have God!! What a nag. That devil tells you that you're not worthy so you won t reach out and have a little taste. He's a jealous lil' devil, aint he?

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deuce916
deuce916: I didn't say anything about what god wanted.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Ah, but you implied it. Accidentally, of course. The devil gets in the way of grammar.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Since both God and devil are invisible, as you maintain, how is it that it's so easy to be attracted by the devil yet one has to fight their way to God?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: I'm sure you'll come up with an answer; for now it's bedtime for me. See ya tomorrow. Oh wait, you're invisible. Ok......I'll be looking forward to tomorrow.
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deuce916
deuce916: Well there is no devil, who told you these things?
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deuce916
deuce916: You're an intelligent person, yet you hang on to god & I'm at a loss to explain why.
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deuce916
deuce916: The devil didn't create sin so why are we blaming him for this mess?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: I met the devil myself, had a fling, then said "Nope, you're not for me, you backstabber!" That was the last conversation we had.

Deuce, do you think that after crawling, knuckles bleeding after a few knockouts, over a mountain of broken glass, then getting up and feircely leaping, swinging at demons with slashing swords while charging across a razor narrow bridge over an abyss with dragons dive bombing you, that you don't know how to hold on?

No sir, once you've gone that far, nothing stops you....and you WILL claim what is rightfully yours! Anything of sublime value will have locks, I assure you, and cannot be stolen. When you drink from the cup of victory, and sift those treasures through your fingers, you don't throw it away - you defend it with your life.

I don't blame the devil for anything because I know there's a lot of chickens who aren't ready to fly. The devil stands in their way......it's an ugly wall one has to surmount to even get onto the battlefield.

Ergo, the devil defends God. Voila.


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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Ah, I cannot claim to have met the Devil. Not sure I would want to, even if he existed. There are plenty of truly awful things happening in the world but I find it difficult to believe that the Devil is author to them. We humans seem quite capable of causing each other misery and suffering without the intervention of a supernatural agent of evil. Still, one thing you can say about the Devil is that he makes a wonderfully eye-catching villain. Tim Curry in "Legend."

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Zanjan
Zanjan: "a supernatural agent of evil. "

NOT. The devil is the most natural thing you posses - the underworld.

Hmm..............I want to watch that movie, Ghost, even though I'll have to suspend belief because his horns are too big for his neck

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orkanen
orkanen: Are you asserting the unknown again, Zanjan?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: No, I just watched the video.........seriously, he'd have to have a bull's neck to carry those horns. Looks awkward, for a wily sneak, don't you think?

As it is written in scriptures:
"And they plotted, and God plotted but God is the best of plotters"
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orkanen
orkanen: I agree, there's something quite odd about it, thought the exact same thing when watching the clip. Another thing that annoys me. If the devil is supposed to be some sort of angel, why is it so often portrayed as thick?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: The devil was never an angel - it was always an animal urge; impulse doesn't think.

Do you ever wonder why it has goat's feet? Goats are cute and nimble, but they do eat up everything. Notice that devil had snake eyes, not goat eyes, which have rectangular pupils.

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orkanen
orkanen: Therein lies lots of disputes. I read up on the history of the devil once, but that's so long ago, I only vaguely remember, and nothing worthy of posting here. Not until I verify.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Notice the Bible doesn't mention the devil in the Garden of Eden - that was the serpent, the long and winding road, the way a river flows, eh.
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orkanen
orkanen: And later on, what has since been translated to "Satan" should have been translated to messenger or adversary.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: S-A-T-A-N ~~~~~~~ S-A-N-T-A


If you're a saint, satan is your alter ego. Therefore, you should keep on climbing that ladder.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Oh dear. You shouldn't mention Santa. Look what it brought to mind:

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orkanen
orkanen: That connection only works in English, Zanjan. In Norwegian it's "Julenissen", not "Santa".
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orkanen
orkanen: I don't believe in magic numbers or symbols or coincidences, particularly where there are none. On a more humouristic note, "Også grisen er salig i sin tro", "The pig is also enjoying its bliss, in it's trough", "tro" also means belief.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Satan acts as a trickster, a tester, a tempter; an angel obedient and subservient to God. Not a fallen angel at all.
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