PART II -Has God permanently rejected Israel? Are Gentiles Chosen people? (Page 3)

bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: just for the record the Heart as absolutely nothing to do with intellect Idiots think with their hearts and usually end up regretting it.
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: a while back i said give me a fact that comes from the bible, something having to do with the religious aspect and not archaeology, something that proves any of the religious communities claims, if there is any real fact to substantiate anything about Jesus, his birth, death, crucifixion (root word fiction) or ascension any real proof or just story, legend, fable without something to go on other than faith the bible is just a story, period, a story written by an ancient civilization of people who lacked education and knowledge but made up for it in the fear of everything roaming through the wilderness eating things that cause audio and visual hallucinations does not justify a prophecy whether recorded, or not whether adopted as a fact by easily deceived individuals,or not only fact is true, fact without proof is heresay and the Bible offers us nothing, in the way of proof
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Bahcatha, you don't want to hear the answers to your questions since you've answered them yourself. The Bible doesn't contradict itself - those who can't put two and two together have an inability to mentally process symbolic forms and the concept of time; this is usually accompanied by poor depth perception, wandering and tremors.

The Mark of Cain, quite frankly, is cognitive dissonance caused by a bad attitude. We don't slay him because we feel sorry for him in this pathetic condition, plus he is eternal proof that you can run but you can't hide.


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Zanjan
Zanjan: Can we get back to topic now?
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chayim
chayim: jesus was born jewish, he went of the jewish way, made himself god, everything of him is written in talmid, thank god he was killed
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Jesus wasn't born Jewish anymore than I was born Christian.

He was born into the Jewish culture of Israel, which stated the first born male must be offered to the Rabbinical league, which maintains the temple. He didn't break those laws....He did his job. The Jews were well aware He was an excellent and righteous religious teacher - they had no confusion about Him being a man like themselves, neither did His early followers.

What was inscribed on His cross? The guy who claims to be God.....or King of Jews?

Many of the Jews were so taken by His worthiness they wanted to make Him a king, but Jesus wanted no part of political governance; ruling a country was the job of men - Jesus was a spiritual king, the ruler of hearts.

They didn't kill Jesus because of any claims He or others made - they killed Him because He knew more than any Jew, was fully civilized, and was never wrong. No one could hide from Him - that was frightening to the wrong doers. You see how effective were their efforts to shut Him up.

IThrough all the tumult, Israel has always stood as the Holy Land, as God promised. Unlike other countries, this one belongs to God, not to men - history attests to that. God decides which temples He permits to be raised in it.



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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: Leviticus 20:10 adulterer and adulteress shall surely be put to death,,,,Hosea 4:14 i will not punish the whore or adulteress wife or daughter. surely Zanjan would not know a contradiction if it rose up and bit her on her butt.
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: contrary to what the bible says you cannot father yourself. as Genesis 11 : verses 24 and 26 which obviously contradict would indicate this is supposed to the divine word of God-----PLEASE
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: of course Jesus was not born Jewish, this would require him to be born of an earthly father, hey wait the bible does register a geneaology record of Jesus being born of the seed of Abraham a man that Jesus himself refers to as a murderer and a liar as if you would read John 8:44, still in Matthew 1:1, if you prefer Matthew 1:6-16 also in Luke 3: 23-31 however the geneaology of Jesus also contradicts itself, Matthew 1:16 claims Jacob the father of Joseph, but wait Luke 3:23 says that Heli is the father of Joseph Clearly Jesus is a man and not in any way God his own prophets giving him a human " Geneaology " says this loud and clear, also the contradictions that are the basis of biblical scripture prove none of them to be of God.
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: 1st Corinthians 7;12,13 and 14 says this about marriage if any man hath a wife that believeth not and she be pleased to dwell with him,let him not put her away, and the woman that hath a husband that believeth not and if he be pleased to dwell with her let her not put him away for the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife as well as the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband else were your children unclean but now they are holy ( this scripture is pretty clear as to content) yet 2nd Corinthians 6:14 clearly says just the opposite be ye not unequally yoked with unbelievers CONTRADICTIONS DO NOT EXIST IN THE BIBLE wow really 2nd Samuel 6:23 says Michal the daughter of Saul had no children but 2nd Samuel 21:8 says she had 5 sons and lets not forget 2nd kings 6:28 and 29 which talks about eating your children as is the case in Leviticus 26:29 or eating your own Dung as in 2nd Kings 18:27
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Nancy
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: i have developed my own by reading the bible and choking on it's ridiculous inability to follow itself seems as if it were the word of God no such contradictions would exist.
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: Nancy thanks for the thought though.
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Nancy
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bahcatha returns: that combined with fairytale and extreme ignorance on behalf of the writers
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: i attended bible college and held the priesthood in my darker years as a brainwashed follower, however the more one actually does research on the bible the more you realize it is a compilation of myth, fable and superstition nothing more.
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: does Zanjan talk in circles you know side stepping the issues, answering questions with questions and making stuff up as she goes along?
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Nancy
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: but if they were prophesying Jesus and all that they should have been concerned not to mention the judgement day and all the great marvels we as sinners should be on the lookout for.
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Nancy
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: I agree however Isaiah either 7 or 8 about the prophecy of Immanuel is one that Christians will argue with you over.
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Fjordman
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: Zanjan or possibly they killed him because they felt he mocked the Messiah.
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bahcatha returns
bahcatha returns: Fjordman they will deny that.
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