Does Islam suck? (Page 3)

ghostgeek: If that is true, Toronto, Islam is a much smaller religion than it is claimed to be.

torontoguy9988: I have to go no time for stupidness here, there are good and bad people everywhere. ISLAM IS A AMAZING BEAUTIFUL RELIGION.

THE END.

I K R: HE SAID ITS BEAUTIFUL OK
STOP SAYING IT ISN'T

Zanjan: Absolutely, some Muslims are amazing - the ones that pray 5 times a day, every day without coaching, and do the whole Fast properly for a month in tropical heat. Can you guys do that? Some of you will say 'yes', so let me re-phrase: *have* you ever done that?

While this shows you how much discipline those bad-assed middle eastern pagans needed to pull their socks up from scratch, they also reaped extra benefits from doing that. How do we know this?

Easy, you don't even have to ask: Only those Muslims who uphold the five pillars of Islam are nice, kind, courageous, honest, peaceful people. Those who are not, have failed to complete their duties as above.

We're living in the Day where everything is exposed.

ghostgeek: So, praying five times a day is amazing, and more than makes up for blowing people up five times a day.

Oh wait, it's only those Muslims who don't uphold the five pillars of Islam who do naughty things. That knowledge might be comforting if we thought that there was even one Muslim out there that followed the fivefold plan.

Zanjan: Ghost, it's not a plan - they're laws, why don't you get that?? Without the laws, there's no Islam. That's true for every other religion.

Thousands of years of history should have proved to you by now what happens to those who break God's Covenant with them. There's no escaping the consequences.

Zanjan: As I said before, in this Day, there's no more hiding behind religion - their failures are exposed and known to all of us. The wolves dont realize their own nakedness; only the evil are deceived.

ghostgeek: Call them what you want, at the end of the day all that matters is how many people follow them. Well, I have to say, after reading my paper in the morning I get the distinct impression that more than a few Muslims are skimping on adherence to the five pillars.

Zanjan: Yep. People worry about Muslim terrorists while suddenly forgetting we have our own lunatics blowing up our own people - no religion involved; they can't do anything about it.

So, toss the coin - where's the best place for those who mingle silently and haven't yet blown anyone up but might? Nobody seems to be able to spot them in a crowd.

ghostgeek: It's the way of the world. People tend to worry about known threats.

Zanjan: "Known"? Or do you mean *publicly advertised*?

There are always signs of potential violence in someone, even in the quiet loners; don't tell me there isn't. However, we can't charge anyone for potential wrongdoing - authorities have to wait until they break the law.

There are too many who don't want to wait for that, too many paranoid vigilantes who believe they can protect themselves by pushing others away.

Check it out yourself; the problem lies with the non-believers - parents who produce children that grow up to be psycho-emotionally damaged. Some of those parents had been religious, some not. Obviously, attachment to any religion is useless when they're still non-believers.

Many of these damaged individuals go over the edge in their youth because that issue weakens them so much, they can't make it past the strong hormonal fluctuations. Although this problem started in the Eastern hemisphere, it's fast increasing in Western society.

Not even Religion can help those souls because it's too late for them, barring a few rare exceptions. So, we're seeing the effects of the irreligious across all fronts. Society is tasting what its own hands have wrought. Soon, they'll learn that false liberty comes with a grave personal price.

Zanjan: So, it's not all doom and gloom........when society wakes up and smells the coffee, the true believers are here, ready to help.

ghostgeek: Yeah, it's always them non-believers at fault, even though it's the believers who do most of the killing. Still, I suppose believers can't blame God for the mess the world's in, and they certainly aren't going to blame themselves, so that only leaves non-believers to carry the can. Whoever invented religion should have been boiled alive, but with no believers around there would have been nobody to do the boiling.

Zanjan: "it's the believers who do most of the killing"

Now come on, you don't have any stats on that. But, for the sake of the conjecture you so adore, let's say that were true. Then, surely, it would be God's wrath and His justice, done on the heedless through His servants. Where you gonna run from that??

I think God would be doing things the hard way, considering His normal method of bringing them down with the Biblical standard tools like leprosy, sinkholes, quakes, big, golden hemorrhoids, and white- hot smoking fireballs from the sky. God is more artful than humans.

ghostgeek: Considering this thread is about Islam, let me ask a simple question. How many Islamic terrorists do you think are non believers?

Zanjan: ALL of them.

ghostgeek: So they're shouting "Allahu Akbar" as they slaughter for what reason?

Zanjan: They mimic each other, pretending to believe because they think it instills fear and respect. While their shouts look like cheesecake for the cameras, they're actually thanking God for the invention of explosives - only guys like the sound of big noises.

Muhammad makes a prophecy in the Quran:

44: 10 - 16

"Then watch for the Day when the sky will bring a visible smoke.
Covering the people; this is a painful torment.
[They will say], "Our Lord, remove from us the torment; indeed, we are believers."
How will there be for them a reminder [at that time]? And there had come to them a clear Messenger.
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
Indeed, We will remove the torment for a little. Indeed, you [disbelievers] will return [to disbelief].

Zanjan: No one is more tormented than the terrorists, themselves. That's why they're suicidal. Second to that is their parents.

briansmythe: Geez Zanjan that the biggest load of Bull of Ive ever heard

Zanjan: I stand corrected - second to that is Brian.

ghostgeek: Like communism and Nazism, Islam is meant to be a system of total control.

Keep that in mind the next time a priest or politician declares his solidarity with the Muslim faith. Don’t let the fact that Islam is a religion, keep you from realizing that it is also an ideological opponent every bit as oppressive and determined as were the Nazis and the Soviet communists.

[ http://www.livetradingnews.com/civilization-struggle-islam-38679.html#.WP0oKmdJm9I ]

Zanjan: Who would you suggest should have total control over you then?

ghostgeek: Does anyone recall their history books? The ones that detail what happened when Hitler went on his grand European tour. How the bodies piled up. Well, do you think most Germans wanted to murder anyone in the name of the National Socialist German Workers' Party? I somehow doubt it because, like most Muslims, they were probably totally OK. But most Germans being totally OK didn't prevent the holocaust, and neither will most Muslims being totally OK prevent the coming armageddon between the West and Islam.