Judaism, The Only Truth (Page 3) dadman1240: the Jewish nation (Israel) a nation blessed by God .... now rejected and set aside by God ... no longer the witness of God to the world .... u n t i l ... the fullness of the Gentiles come in .... see Romans 9 / 10 and 11 ><> http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=622#p622 <><  Tomacco: One devout follower telling another devout follower (of a different god) that he is a liar! And peope still wonder why we atheists think like we do! lol  ghostgeek: Atheists don't need an excuse, Dadman, to see through the flimflam of religion. Pious talk and murky deeds can't disguise the fact that God has yet to put in an appearance. ghostgeek: Shame there isn't a God, otherwise we could have a snicker at the thought of Chayiii being sent to the midden of Hell for his intemperate language.  J a g u a r: I agree "Judaism is the only truth;" however, it's the only truth for us Jews. Jewish Scriptures do show us that exist others paths to Hashem, and being a Jew is one of many. As for what Dadman said: * Jewish Scriptures tell us Jews our Covenant is everlasting. G-d is omniscient, Hashem knew and knows ahead of time our shortcomings, and for this reason an everlasting Covenant was made. The Covenant is for us Jews to be reminded that we have Torah to comeback to Hashem. A reminder that we've chosen Hashem and Hashem has chosen us; above and beyond the imperfections of our humanity. Which He has bestowed upon us.  Winterson: Did God really arrange things so that only about fifteen million people would believe in His only truth? That doesn't seem like a very good Divine plan. J a g u a r: Jewish Scriptures speak of the truth for Jews ONLY, we are NOT the religious police brigade. Our religious text recognize that exist non Jews who have a relationship with Hashem, we see it in the Noahide Covenant which has its laws, and is an everlasting Covenant. Meaning, the truth of G-d isn't only for Jews, Jewish Scriptures (Judaism) doesn't claim exclusivity as Christianity and Islam does.  bonzono: "Jewish Scriptures speak of the truth for Jews ONLY" actual truth is not subjective. the fact you've conceded that your religious is subjective shows you're aware it's nonsensical and can't be shown to be more than imagination. your made up story and god can be anything you want. it's stupid to claim your mythical story is anything other than myth. it's even more stupid to claim that someone else's myth is less mythical than yours - they're ALL myths. NONE of them are actual fact. soz. bonzono: "God really arrange things so that only about fifteen million people would believe in His only truth? " 15 million people out of 100 billion (the number of humans to ever have lived) is a score of 0.015%. god is an abject failure. Winterson: I think it's about 15 million now. It is meaningless to set that against the number of all human beings who have ever lived. However, you get the point. bonzono: why is it meaningless? if you claim judaism is the only religion, the fact is that this 'real religion' has only been accessed ever, by 0.015% of the entire human population. You can't pick and choose which of your failures you want to exclude from the score!  DontNeedChrist: Jag did not state Judaism is the only religion. There are many paths to G-d for non-Jews. J a g u a r: DNC, Bonzono is an atheist that lacks the basic reading skills; she loves to create an argument based on what has never been said nor implied. She's an atheist that hates religious by pushing her delusion of intellectual supremacy, ethics and morality; while being intellectually dishonest, a hypocrite and behaving as a douchebag. (Edited by J a g u a r) J a g u a r: winterson "Did God really arrange things so that only about fifteen million people would believe in His only truth? That doesn't seem like a very good Divine plan." Torah speaks of the Noahide Covenant, which precedes the Abrahamic covenant and is for all humanity. The Noahides were and are responsible for their covenant and religious texts. We Jews are responsible for our own Covenant and for our religious texts. Maybe you should find and research what are laws and religious texts of the Noahide. Judaism IS the only true religion for us Jews; Noahides aren't a denomination and can be from different religions. bonzono: ..okay,, but the fact remains... when it comes to having a successful ubiquitous religion. God failed utterly. 15 million? out of 100 billion? yeah, that's a pretty catestrophic fail. of course, your all knowing god knew that he would fail. Interesting paradox... except that it's not a paradox, because god is purely fantasy. DontNeedChrist: So whichever religion has the most followers is the winner? Not how it works. There are references in scripture as to how small Israel is and that makes it all the more miraculous. Despite being few in numbers and persecuted for centuries, the Jew is still here and remains one of the most influential religions on the planet. Catastrophic miracle. We don't care what you believe. Believe in nothing. Worship a purple sloth. It's your choice. bonzono: "So whichever religion has the most followers is the winner? Not how it works" agreed. I never said that was the case. the point is that god is god is real, he's a monumental failure bonzono: the funny part of that is - if god is omniscient, then he already knew he was a monumental failure. DontNeedChrist: You sure do spend a lot of time discussing something you don’t believe in. The irony. | Religion Chat Room 35 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
