Religion is just another addiction. (Page 2)

mrsmargaret48: Ego, grow up.

mrsmargaret48: Mania not addiction, another subject you know nothing about.

Albert617: To say, "just another addiction" is to overstate your case, which sounds a bit Freudian (Sigmund Freud was an atheist). The claim also commits the genetic fallacy. How a person comes to believe in religion says absolutely nothing about whether or not that religion is true or false. A person could be addicted to religion (like they are to cell phones today), but the religion could still be true.

Albert617: It's funny, people today are oblivious to the fact that they are totally addicted to cell phones, but they want to criticize people who are allegedly addicted to religion.

GeraldtheGnome: I’m critical of both of those addictions.

GeraldtheGnome: No one literally said anything on this text based site. Everyone is an atheist. Some people do not use any capitals to start a sentence. Every religion is made up. The word fallacy means error, use the word error since you Albert made the error of using the word fallacy because you are under the mistaken belief that the unimpressive word fallacy impresses people. Impress people by what you tell them, never think that just one word will impress anyone.

There’s no alleged addictions to religion, there are proven addictions to religion.

bonzono: I wouldn't say it's an addiction necessarily.
I'd say it's a manifestation of a psychological problem.
It seems to share a lot in common with, and makes a great deal of use of cognitive dissonance.

GeraldtheGnome: You really stuffed up there. Big words don't make you smart. At best they will only help some people create a false opinion that you are smart because of the words that you chose, unfortunately for you fake intelligence with a heap of big words that you found in any dictionary or thesaurus that you think is impressive and shows that you are smart will get you nowhere.

You also decided to use return with your first two sentences and then you used return before you used the last word that there are better suited words that you could have used. This is a text site so you will never be able to say anything on here. If there are no need for certain words then never use them, if there is no need for a comma, like before the word and then never use the comma. It's bloody common sense.

Religion is about the belief that certain things must be done otherwise if they are not done then the person is worse off, sometimes certain things are done to either appease or praise an imagined god or goddess.

bonzono: Gerry,
It's not my fault you can't grasp the context or meaning of words.

Your phrasing is amateurish, it's unhinged and lacks any direction.

I use clear spacing so that people like you who obviously suffer from a comprehension disorder can read them. Again; no real point in complaining about it.

Finally, since you're also ignorant of what the word 'religion' means - I'd suggest you consult a dictionary before you bother to respond. In fact, keep a dictionary on hand since you seem to struggle with words of three syllables or more.

GeraldtheGnome: You are quite capable of just staying on the same line when you haven’t finished a sentence each time, you did not do that though. My phrasing is not of an amateur kind, considering that you have referred to as amateurish, the amateur came out with the word amateurish, then afterwards she made false accusations that I a, unable to know what the context and the meanings of words are. There is nothing unhinged on here, no one is unhinged either, except for the one who keeps showing an unhinged mentality about things on this site, you in other words. I head things in a direction that you are unable to understand because you are too busy being a troll and using confirmation bias.

Just because you are a bit slow at understanding certain things does not mean that myself and others are wrong about what you simply do not understand. The direction that you should go in is one where you walk away from everything that gives you internet access, stay away from the internet for a while. You should only return to the internet was you are finally able to think properly. Myself and people like me do not suffer from a comprehension disorder. You though have trouble comprehended that there are very qualified doctors that are creationists. If you have been to a doctor then you do not know that doctor is a creationist. So you are a hypocrite. You are ignorant as to what is true about qualified doctors, you are addicted to using confirmation bias. I know what the word religion means, just because I did not come out with what you wished does not mean that I am wrong.

I know what the word religion means, apart from your ignorance about that there also is the fact that you, not me, just so happens to be ignorant of the fact that you used a hyphen rather than a comma. No one needs your false accusations, false claims and insults. You are unfair to creationists and you are unfair to everyone else who goes against your own extremist ideology. I have no problem with words that are three syllables or more if they are the best words to be used. If those words are not the best words for me to use and they are not the best words for anyone else to use then it’s best that none of of use them. It should not be a struggle for you to understand, it should be very easy for you to understand.

TruthBeTold7: Even if religion is an addiction, it would be a psychogenetic fallacy to conclude that religion is false; because how a person comes to a belief says absolutely nothing about the truth or falsity of a belief. It may be that God designed humans with a need, and religion fills that need.

bonzono: Sorry Gerald, you're just flat out an idiot.

GeraldtheGnome: To the one who is into the truth. If religion is an addiction then there is no reason to think that everything about religion is false. That’s basically what you were trying to tell me yet failed to do so because you were busy thinking that you were smart and impressive because of your choice of two words that were best for you to avoid. You turned it into complete nonsense. Now either the words I used or words like them would have been good enough.

You came off as being stupid with your choice of words and because of that it was unimpressive. Instead of just stopping there you continued on with a semicolon rather than a comma, after that you stupidly used another unimpressive word. There was no need for the rest of the sentence. Religion is the human interpretation of the unknown. No one designed humans, they were not created from nothing or by spontaneous generation, both of them have been disproven by experiments.

To Bonzono. The words ‘you are just a flat out idiot’ was what you meant to tell me. Just because I disagree with you does not make me an idiot. I am not an idiot, I know enough to know that not every qualified doctor is for evolution and considers each human as an animal.

bonzono: Gerry, you certainly are an idiot, and it's not 'because you disagree with me".

This, gerry, is why you're a moron.
"I know enough to know that not every qualified doctor is for evolution and considers each human as an animal"

AS you're obviously too stupid to get the logic here, let me break it down for you.
Specifically, in the context of Australia, but the same applies in usa, uk, nz, etc.
1. It is ILLEGAL for unqualified doctors to practice.
2. A doctor CANNOT practice unless they have been trained at a registered institute.
3. ALL registered institutes teach that human biology is mammalian - THIS IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE AMA- ALL MEDICAL STUDENTS MUST PASS HUMAN BIOLOGY CLASSES.

THEREFORE.
It is ILLEGAL for doctors to practice if they do not understand that human biology is mammalian biology to operate.

It's not about belief, it's about what you need to know to be a legally registered and operating doctor in my country,




Doctors can be any religion, it doesnt matter. It's simply illegal for a doctor to practice if they do not understand that humans have mammalian biology.

GeraldtheGnome: You still consider me an idiot because I do not agree with you, in this instance it's because you claim that everything qualified doctor is for evolution and and considers each human to be an animal. Don't repeat the words of my own and of others. Instead of falsely accusing someone of being an idiot/moron, check if you are actually right. Number one, there is no need for a comma before the word and, just use commas and hyphens only when you need to.

Number two is that you really didn't use the word logic in the best way. Now if someone is religious is addicted to religion does not matter right now. What does matter is that you keep using confirmation bias to push your own belief system that doctors think like you do. I'll test out that theory before you overdo it again with uppercase words. Your number one is correct, also when you decided to leave a number two you were also correct. So that's two out of three.

Don't be sad now.



Is number three true ? Well maybe. Human biology is really just about human anatomy, that in itself does not require anyone to know anything about evolution or to even be for it or to think that a human is an animal. How are you going so far. What is your country really ? You come out with so much North American crap that it's hard to believe that you actually even live in the same hemisphere that I do. You really are in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia ? Also your rude duh is just inappropriate. It is illegal for doctors to practice if they don't understand human anatomy, whether anyone needs to know if a human is an animal or not is not based just on what you think is true. Since you have made a lot of claims and that overseas from Australia also has the same situation here is shown by evidence that proves that you are either right or wrong. So does each doctor of medicine needs to be for evolution at the very least ?

Aaron, Benjamin L.[27] ICR Medicine Pre-Med, University of Missouri. M.D., University of Texas.[28] Retired Professor of Surgery at George Washington University. Member of the Board of Trustees of the Institute for Creation Research. He has the unusual distinction of having had operated on both Ronald Reagan and Dick Cheney.[29] A doctor of medicine, not related to evolution or a young earth. No longer practices medicine.[30] 1997 (26 YA)[31]

Abraham, Thomas DI Medicine Ph.D., Biomedical Sciences/Pharmacology, East Tennessee State University. B.S., Chemistry, Mars Hill College. Associate Professor of Pharmacology & Toxicology, Campbell University School of Pharmacy (a religious university).[32] Has some publications in unrelated fields.[citation needed] A doctor of medicine, not related to evolution or a young earth. 2003 (20 YA)[33]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lists_of_creationist_scientists

Do you want to stop embarrassing yourself now or should I continue on with other examples ?

bonzono: "You still consider me an idiot because I do not agree with you"
it's more that you dont understand the reasons you're wrong.

GeraldtheGnome: I see, you want me to continue on. I just showed you the reasons why you are wrong. Don't worry about if anyone religious is addicted to religion, worry that you are addicted to confirmation bias. Stop falsely accusing me of things that you know sweet bugger all about.

bonzono: i specifically mentioned australia, and it's 2023.
you gave two examples from usa, only one of them is actually practicing and with a [citation needed]

there's no risk of me being embarassed, so yes, go ahead, show me some qualified practicing australian doctors who assert humans are not mammals.

GeraldtheGnome: Ackerman, Paul D. AIG, CMI, ICR Medicine B.S. Psychology, University of Kansas. M.A. Psychology, University of Kansas. Ph.D. Psychology, University of Kansas.[38] Is the Chair in Psychology at Wichita State University. Frequent lecturer for AIG, but lectures only on the history of the movement, the history of "Darwinian" research and philosophical questions about why humans search for unanswerable answers. Rejects any scientific discussions at his lectures.[39] A doctor of medicine, not related to evolution or a young earth. On ICR's "physical scientists" list; isn't a physical scientist. 1976 (47 YA)[40] YEC

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lists_of_creationist_scientists

Anyone religious or anyone who who is not religious can be addicted to a certain flawed belief system. You for example.

bonzono: 1976. kansas.

anything this century? anything this country like i asked?

bonzono: just to clarify, and I assumed you'd understood from the context - I'm talking about medical doctors, not academic doctors. Just letting you know in case you want to go down that idiot avenue.

GeraldtheGnome: answersingenesis.org. Over at the Ken Ham blog named ‘While I was away’ dated June 7, 2009, he stated that when he was away his friend Paul Ackerman and Paul’s granddaughter visited the creation museum. He also stressed that Paul is the author of creation books.

He is a doctor of medicine, of psychology to be specific. Now you want to make excuses because you were caught out. By your own way of thinking a qualified doctor of medicine, which until now you never excluded psychology, is one who is not for evolution, so already your crap theory has been proven by me to be wrong. I also showed you two other types of doctors of medicine, now whether the doctor is a general practitioner or a surgeon or any other doctor of medicine there are some that are not for evolution and not for thinking that a human is an animal. So stop thinking that I am an idiot because I don’t go along with your own dogmatic ideology. Sure, there are religious people that are addicted to religion, you are also addicted to confirmation bias.

There really is no need for commas before the word and for any reason and the hyphen was not needed either. I love the way you are now cherry picking things to avoid being stuck. You did mention Australia, I also am well aware of what year it is, now and that of the past makes no difference, qualified medical doctors of all types, even at the lowest level of being a qualified doctor includes those who are not for evolution and don’t believe that any human is an animal, some are even creationists. So an apology is due by your for your insults and false accusations. Your false claims about medical doctors was truly laughable.

The funny thing is that you told me that it’s basically the same in The United States and so on as it is here in Australia, you are quite correct, you were however absolutely wrong that every medical doctor in Australia and elsewhere are for evolution and for the idea that humans are animals. Nice try, game over. Please try again next time.

GeraldtheGnome: I actually gave three examples, you cannot count. Sentences also start with capitals. Religious cults are an example of a group of religious people addicted to religion and some with confirmation bias who goes against everything that proves that her crap theory is wrong is addicted to the fantasy that she can never be wrong. You actually never asked, you just claimed that certain things were true. So please don’t twist things by either assumptions or by plain out lying just so something can seem to be true when it is not.

bonzono: "I actually gave three examples, you cannot count. "
I asked for an example of it occuring this century in australia. you gave - zero.


"There is also sentences start with capitals."
That they do - and new paragraphs start with a newline. You don't care about grammar as much as you pretend.

"Religious cults are an example of a group of religious people addicted to religion and some with confirmation bias who goes against everything that proves that her crap theory is wrong is addicted to the fantasy that she can never be wrong."
And run-on sentences beg for a comma, or full-stop.

"You actually never asked, you just claimed that certain things were true."
No, I asked: there's a question mark and everything.

"So please don’t twist things by either assumptions or by plain out lying just so something can seem to be true when it is not."
And you've still failed to deliver.

Thanks for playing.
Next time- keep it in your pants, your ability to synthesise information and return a sane response isnt as impressive as you want it to be. In fact, it's tragically comical.

GeraldtheGnome: We all make mistakes, just as I did and just as I constantly do. Never repeat the words from anyone ever again. To show that we all make mistakes from time to time there is the example of where you put a full stop and then you used the word you, without a capital, then you added a hyphen and then you used zero with a full stop just to finish it off. It made as much sense as one of my sentences which I have since corrected. Slowly approaching something rather than just typing something quickly does make a difference for both of us. We will always end up almost error free or without errors when we type anything because of it.

Now you also made a lot of false accusations and then used the word duh, it's not a proper word, it's just a childish insult from you instead. Now please cease making the false accusation that medical doctors are all for evolution and for seeing humans as animals. Neither of us know what any medical doctor from any section of medicine thinks unless at least one of them has shown otherwise. There is no need or reason for any medical doctor to tell any of us that he or she is for evolution and thinks that every human is an animal. You may live out an entire lifetime and never know if any doctor (who you thinks agrees with you) is for everything that you are for. It is no use for you to complain about creationism until you stop going against it with confirmation bias.

Now you think that you are somewhat smart with your whirling around rubbish and so on, you though are not a smart person. Anyone who thinks clearly does not go around accusing anyone of pretending to agree with a doctor. It's utter nonsense. There are people who are addicted to religion and there are people who addicted to something else. You cannot be given an answer to something that is so far unavailable to me. I have only vaguely mentioned anything about the subject matter of this forum, you didn't even do that. The words I asked if there is makes sense, you though never did that. So hyphens, the bad habit of using the word and at the front a a sentence and that of many other things you did wrong, such as use a semicolon are your own errors. I failed to deliver ? Yes, that's just just you again.

A sentence and then putting the next sentence under it was also an error, your rubbish about keeping it in my pants was completely inappropriate. At no stage was there any reason to use one word that you thought was impressive. Unlike your own inability to take in information properly and for you to be rational, I have shown that I am sane. I have been rational, used logic where you failed to do so and I never even tried to be impressive. I did however attempt to show you why you are wrong, so the only unimpressive one who has been tragically comical is you. You have failed to show why every medical doctor currently thinks as you do. Worse still, when I bring up anything about anyone classified as a medical doctor you make an excuse and tell me that you didn't mean it that way. Well even if you only want to consider that a medical doctor is at least just a general practitioner then it does not make a difference. Each surgeon, each dentist, each general practitioner or each person from any medical section I left out all cannot be claimed to be for evolution and think that each person is a mammal.

It doesn't matter if I just show academic doctors or run of the mill doctors, it doesn't even matter which country I have examples of. Each country includes medical doctors that are not for evolution and do not think that each person is a mammal. So please stop embarrassing yourself. Stop being a fool, I really have no time for your silly games. Just another thing, you used a word that thought made you smart and impressive. None of that was shown to be true, you were better off not using it. Just let people who actually know what you are unable to understand more than you do tell us what they think. You don't understand enough about doctors, it would be therefore wise if you avoided believing that you are a mindreader when it comes to what all medical doctors think. If you want a self proclaimed mindreader then go and ask Lori if she can find you some 'Amazing Kreskin' kind of mindreader. Maybe then you will be as easily conned as she is about all of the psychic rubbish.