Mosques being built at or near the 9/11 site.

Malobear
Malobear: Never forget the people that lost their lives during the 9/11 attack. So many peoples lives from around the world were affected by these events. Rememeber that people that have hatred because of religous beliefs and color are not of god.
Here is a article written by a couple of Muslims that DO NOT agree with Obama. But what should be noted here is, Here is proof that NOT every Muslim agrees with the extremist side of this faith.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Mischief+Manhattan/3370303/story.html
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hewhay
hewhay: the towers attack was a psychological attack on America by the U.S.Government [whom tried to make it appear as if militant Islamics , Alqeada had attacked the American people ] to spread islamic hate and further their cause to go and attack a country unprovoked ,to steal resources and occupy [to promote DEMONARCHACY]'

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT GOLD STORED IN THE BASEMENTS OF THE TOWERS ?

somebody [Bush-Cheney-and all the other neocons involved with the PNAC]

go ahead and build a Mosque there ,wouldn't bother me one way or the other ,but the beer swilling bubbah's might think otherwise
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Topsyturvy
Topsyturvy: To manipulate the masses all one needs to do is: Creat a problem (middle east) creat a solution (war on middle east) crap, no good reason for war! (Let's kill own people) 911, Now good reason - solution; declare war on middle east. Masses love the solution, based on the evidence. The media really does control everything everyone does. Ow look another pepsi ad, lets all buy a pepsi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Malobear
Malobear: This thread was started to try to show that every Muslim does not believe the same as the other,just as every whiteman doesnt believe the same as a Klansman. If that was the case,Bobby Kennedys US Marshalls wouldve never been allowed to leave the south alive.
Whether the US goverment had anything to do with what happened is another thread, but considering Bin Laden admitted to it and "the plan went better than expected" as said in his own words,little more needs to be really wrote,in my opinion.

I am Native American and the distrust for the goverment runs deep,believe me. But stereotyping one group of people because of the actions of a few is dead wrong. Until we as a people learn to respect each other,nothing will change.
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hewhay
hewhay: I am a native american proud member of the Fox tribe of Iowa , thank you for the thread ,sorry I didn't add anything constructive .
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Talent_M
Talent_M: "To manipulate the masses all one needs to do is: Creat a problem (middle east) creat a solution (war on middle east) crap, no good reason for war! (Let's kill own people) 911, Now good reason - solution; declare war on middle east. Masses love the solution, based on the evidence. The media really does control everything everyone does. Ow look another pepsi ad, lets all buy a pepsi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

I agree
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Talent_M
Talent_M: I believe that event was so painful such as any other bloody event in the world, but to build up a mosque near 9/11 site I see it very normal, if I have a prblem with such matter I should have an objection against any mosque over all USA, cos 9/11 site is not a holy site, it is like other areas and the aggression was against many kinds of people and muslims as well.
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Malobear
Malobear: Considering that people of all faiths lost their lives I dont believe any house of worship should be built. The two men in the article brought up a interesting thing. "When we try to understand the reasoning behind building a mosque at the epicentre of the worst-ever attack on the U.S., we wonder why its proponents don't build a monument to those who died in the attack? New York currently boasts at least 30 mosques so it's not as if there is pressing need to find space for worshippers."
In South Dakota in the Black Hills, the US goverment saw it fit to carve four Presidents into the mountains,known as Mount Rushmore. This was also ancient burial grounds for the Sioux and many native americans believe both the Mt Rushmore and Crazy Horse sculptures are desecrations of their sacred Black Hills. Read more here. http://www.aaanativearts.com/article1490.html
Ground zero in NYC may mean nothing to you but to others it does. And as you say "the aggression was against many kinds of people and muslims as well." In my opinion,consideration to all faiths would be better served in a monument to those that lost their lives that fateful day.
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Squ1d_Lips
Squ1d_Lips: I think that muslims should be allowed to build mosques anywhere they like, the same way they allow churches, hindu and buddhist temples, to be built in Mecca......oh, wait a minute....
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franklin1950
franklin1950: a greek orthodox church destroyed as a result of the 9-11 twin towers " mishap " is being hindered from being rebuilt by government interference and the apparent intolerence of new york officialdom.
perhaps if they converted to islam the obsticales would disappear.

i personally find it disturbing that the 9-11 site is always refered to as a halode [sp] / sacred ground .
i'll check my dictionary latter to see definations of these words . if my thinking is incorrect i appologize .
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Talent_M
Talent_M: "consideration to all faiths would be better served in a monument to those that lost their lives that fateful day."
okay let them do it then, I think it isn't a problem to anyone,right?
see when you have an objection to build up a mosque, it means you have an objection against the muslims themselves, that's the point,right?
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Malobear
Malobear: "Considering that people of all faiths lost their lives I dont believe ANY house of worship should be built."
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Squ1d_Lips
Squ1d_Lips: Lets build a science lab there instead. A tribute to technological advancement and the progress of mankind instead of a tribute to superstitous, religous nonsense that was used to justify and inspire the atrocious event in the first place!
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franklin1950
franklin1950: there are over a thousand mosks in america .
over a hundred in new york .
20 in manhatin

this new proposed mosk/community centre is a tribute a monument to mark and celibrate the great victory over the great satin.
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Squ1d_Lips
Squ1d_Lips: u do realize by supporting the construction of that mosque Obama is supporting and encouraging hate for the muslims....right?

its called reverse psychology!

PS I wonder if someone will fly a plane into it after its built.
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quigley
quigley: its all about money, look at how much they have bled out of you people for security dollars. would have been hard to get that much in humanitarian aid
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franklin1950
franklin1950: obama has place his agenda/idiology ahead of his countries best interests and far worse ahead of his democrate party.
there is no reverse pycology involved here his aims and ideals have been there for anyone to see that cared to look . and some who did see chose to not only ignor but actively chose to misleed and cover them up for their own reasons .
the snake pit the is american politics .
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Talent_M
Talent_M: sorry but Obama is just like a dummy, already there is an organized agenda and the poor Obama must follow it,just like previous presidents!
I'm not American and it is clrear,so how about you!!??
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franklin1950
franklin1950: obama has tried so so hard to be loved by the muslim world .
" america is not a christian nation " etc etc
he will be very sad and disapointed that talent m .. as representative of muslim thought would think him a dummy .
you and many amercans have more in common than might be thought .
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Talent_M
Talent_M: don't worry, by killing the muslims everywhere of the world he won't be sad at all!
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fossilgeezer
fossilgeezer: "War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left!"

(old Chinese proverb)
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quigley
quigley: let's take the mobile phones and toyotas off the mushies and they are crippled
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CandyRivers
CandyRivers: Why would they want to build there of all places - you have to question the motives behind this.

Yep Good point about Mecca Squid, if people dont like Islam then they get labelled islamophobe etc. They really should point that keen eye of scrutiny at themselves for a while.

Fossilgeezer, I would like to see you post much more often.
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: what is next a monument to Adolph Hitler at Pearl Harbor.
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: how about passing a law that the NAACP has to have an I love the KKK day.
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: Better yet lets burn a cross on Martin luther Kings grave site, why not offensive is offensive.
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