Bigotry Towards the Athiest (Page 2) Talent_M: "Lost? And how would u know the situation of every atheist on this planet? People are individuals, u have to stop using this sheep-like mentality which u are so accustomed to." I havn't say something wrong,you don't know why you are here on this world? could you tell us then?!!! Naboo_the_Enigma: What is the purpose of life? Thats a very loaded question. It's a 'why' question, and totally vacuous in the absence of any good reason to think that there is a 'why' Why does there have to be any purpose? What is ur purpose for being here? If its to live a good and fulfilling life and not to harm another person on the planet, then we both have the same purpose. Actually I believe that religion has a tendancy to reduce any meaning for life. Why? Because many religions see life as unimportant compared to what comes next be it paradise, heaven, Hell or some other plane of existance. As an atheist I don't look forward to being dead and going to a better place so I already know that here and now is the best place to be and that I should make sure I enjoy it and use it in a useful way until my own demise and end. This is my own personal view and i speak for no other atheist. Like Sam Harris keeps emphasizing, atheism is a term without content. It is not a world view, so there cannot be a single atheist view on the meaning of life. halfapintdoll: We are primates ...animals essentially. What makes us so special? A set of social and moral obligations?? Have you seen how a monkey hirarchy works?? not too much different from ours! Where is the proof god exists?? Talent_M: "If its to live a good and fulfilling life and not to harm another person on the planet, then we both have the same purpose" well this is your purpose, then who cares? I can be the opposite,so what, I can kill, I can hurt,I have money, who dare to stop me or punish me!!?? Naboo_the_Enigma: Then u are completely deranged with no self-control, and morality and should be locked up immediately. But let me ask u a question, before we completely lose u. Which came first? Morality or Religion? There was a time when mankind had no organised religion. And like u seem to think if we had no religion we would all turn into ravenous, psychopaths, killing and murdering everything we came across. If this was the case, do u think the human race would still exist? Using ur warped logic we would've wiped each other out a long time ago....(and religion seems to be making up for lost time, in this case) I strongly believe that we have an inherent moral code, which religion tends to warp from time to time. halfapintdoll: ...well a desperate need to enforce social order (they were too primitave to think of a police force) and scare the living snot out of people Talent_M: "Then u are completely deranged with no self-control, and morality and should be locked up immediately." well,many criminals are free today I think the morality came with man by nature and could be changed,but how did we get this code? where its origin came from?who programmed us? and which are the right code? I mean my morals is different about yours,when they would be same as mine, means we thinking in same way, then who is controling your morals,of course your mind,but tell me do you always think rightly?of course we can't, then we need something correct guides us to unify to distinguish between the err and the right,what is that? as you said the "code" and which code? definitely the code of who knows everything, I'm telling you a perfect way to understand our morals regardless the religion was true or false,by the way ,the animals also have morals,but they already had been created with one case, we don't have evil lion and good lion,all eat meat by nature. most of our habits and traditions today are religious don't you think? candyrivers: Most religions exploit what humans think is right and use natural human morality as their core foundations - discuss. 5 marks. Naboo_the_Enigma: i think he meant Raelism. (Raëlism, or The Raëlian movement, is a UFO religion which teaches that all life on Earth was created by humanoid extraterrestrials called Elohim, which was the word used for God in many ancient writings. Members, known as Raëlians, believe that the Elohim periodically contacted ancient civilizations through prophets such as Buddha and Jesus) Naboo_the_Enigma: Moral values, like The Golden Rule, may have developed through a community instinct. For example: Reciprocation; when I am very ill and unable to defend or feed myself I am cared for. If I don't pay this back in kind I am expelled from the group/heard/troop etc, the culture of reciprocation is favoured and encouraged. It's pretty basic but it's a start. Scratch my back and I will scratch yours! Perhaps the picking of ticks from each others fur is the seed, I don't know, but it seems a start towards bonding, favour, community spirit and maybe on toward civilized behaviour. 'mean my morals is different about yours,when they would be same as mine, means we thinking in same way, then who is controling your morals,of course your mind,but tell me do you always think rightly' Its called having self-control and being able to instinctively tell right from wrong. Im feeling h%xy$, what do i do? Go rape the nearest lone female? No, of course not. And its not a set of irrelevant ancient rules & regulations telling me what to do. Goran: Morality evolved as everything else. Bad traits were punished, good rewarded by the environment. No need to look outside of our nature to see where our morality comes from. Talent_M: "Im feeling hwzwz, what do i do? Go rape the nearest lone female? No, of course not. And i dont have any belief system to adhere to. " you will not rape but you will see nearst b%x@# and do s%* with her who made s~@ with many people before you,or the contrary and from where the diseases come from? where are you Candy, where are you from women rights? candyrivers: the nearest what - b&y$$ was it, not woman. thats very interesting and also rather telling. Naboo_the_Enigma: Are u a pimp Talent? Gotta get me some of those biatches!!! Or does ur flowery language come from some deep-seated sexual repression? candyrivers: lol Naboo. As long as she benefits from the fiscal transaction and Talent the pimp does not steal all her money, then I am ok with it. I stand for womens rights where you do not Talent. Naboo_the_Enigma: Tut! that was uncalled for! Sorry, cant resist.. Why haven't any women ever gone to the moon? It doesn't need cleaning yet. A man runs over his wife. Whose fault is it? The man, he shouldn't be driving in the kitchen. Ok, ill behave now!! | Religion Chat Room 29 People Chatting Similar Conversations |