Thanks very much god

deuce916
deuce916: I just heard about an airplane crash where 103 passengers & 11 crew members died. 1 boy survived & the doctor says "Thanks god". ?????????
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Pigfish
Pigfish: Just like George W Bush, many people like to mix God into every topic they discuss. In this way, they can hide behind a higher authority and rid themselves of an unpopular responsibility.
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: thanks for what? all the ones that died or the one that didn't.
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deuce916
deuce916: The doc said "Thanks god" about the one boy who survived, even though he the boy was in a critical condition.

I just don't know how you can consider thanking a god for a situation like that.

I notice all the godies have conveniently disregarded this thread.
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: maybe they are trying to find Jesus to bring all of the dead back and have you noticed how risen ignores every question you ask him even if it is about some stupid comment he made.
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Yahweh
Yahweh: HEY RISEN! ASK YOUR JESUS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD ,TO RAISE ALL THE POOR SOULS TAKEN IN THE PLANE CRASH . HELLO ? JESUS MUST NOT BE WORKING TODAY
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Transformed
Transformed: Don't blame God for the state of the earth blame yourselves. Death in all it's forms is the penalty of sin. "For the wages of sin is death."

Follow this link to be reminded of just how cruel we humans can be.

http://wikibin.org/articles/list-of-atrocities.html
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Yahweh
Yahweh: SIN a.k.a. 'mistakes' if you eat wrong foods all your life ,you have committed a mortal sin[mistake] against your Tabernacle /body Temple and can expect to reap death at an early age ,don't follow your Creators Natural Health and Diet laws and you will perish ,as far as hell ,if you rack your body to a point where it no longers functions as it should ,then you have a Living Hell
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FROZEN_in_time
FROZEN_in_time: We Spiritists don't recognise the concepts of sin and hell, which we regard as "fear propaganda" from certain religions to scare people into embracing their faith.
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Icy_Uranus
Icy_Uranus: >>> "Death in all it's forms is the penalty of sin."

A tree dies - is this sin? It just stands there all day and night, it incapable of sin and yet trees still die. Whats up with that?

Death is death, sunshine. Nothing lives forever, nothing. If something else doesn't kill you first, old age will get you in the end.
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Talent_M
Talent_M: "Death in all it's forms is the penalty of sin."
!!!!!!!, so all we would be in the heaven!!!!!?
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: I seriously believe that transformed and risen are one and the same, no one else could talk so much shit.
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Yahweh
Yahweh: no ,they are both card carrying Jesus lovin Bible Thumpers ,I see one on the streets that looks like Risen ,he's a Baptist and everyone calls him Jesus Boy ,he gives out cards telling how Jesus will save yer bacon when the End Of The World comes ,I see his cards on the ground all over town [or maybe there is an army of them trolling for souls?]
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Transformed
Transformed: >>>>>>"A tree dies - is this sin? It just stands there all day and night, it incapable of sin and yet trees still die. Whats up with that?"

What you have to understand is that man and woman were created in the beginning to have authority over the earth to be it's keeper and ruler on behalf of God (Gen 1:28). When they rebelled against God it brought the curse of death upon the whole earth, causing the whole creation to be set off balance and into disorder (hence the world we have today).

Consider this passage, "In fact, all creation is eagerly waiting for God to show who his children are. Meanwhile, creation is confused, but not because it wants to be confused. God made it this way in the hope that creation would be set free from DECAY and would share in the glorious freedom of his children. We know that all creation is still groaning and is in pain, like a woman about to give birth." Romans 8:19-22

If death is just a natural part of life then why is it always so unnatural when it comes? Death in the world is a witness to you that the world is in need of deliverance and it will be delivered.
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Yahweh
Yahweh: Those who know the Creator aren't confused as to whom His people are
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Icy_Uranus
Icy_Uranus: Transformed, again you show how petty your god is. If he penalises the whole of creation because two dumbasses ate an apple, then he is a petty god and not worthy of worhsip.

How is death unnatural?
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Transformed
Transformed: >>>>>> "Transformed, again you show how petty your god is. If he penalises the whole of creation because two dumbasses ate an apple, then he is a petty god and not worthy of worhsip.

How is death unnatural?"

Firstly, contrary to popular opinion it wasn't an apple it was fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Secondly, God in the beginning of creation set laws in motion. Such as the law of gravity. What goes up must come down right? If I was to say "I'm gonna do my own thing! I'm not gonna allow gravity dictate my life!" And I proceeded to walk towards the edge of a cliff. You'd call me an idiot, wouldn't you? I would fall to my death.

In the same way there are spiritual laws. God gave them a command, "You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." So when they bought the lie and disobeyed the command and ate of it they died, first spiritually and then physically.
It was disobedience that brought death. To disobey God is a breaking of a spiritual law and as we know from a court of law, when the law is broken there are consequences.
Another way of looking at it is, the human body is constructed of cells right? The body works in good health when all of these cells work together in obedience to the law of the body. As soon as a single cell becomes radical and decides it wants to do it's own thing and disobeys the order of the body it becomes cancerous and begins affecting the whole body eventually bringing about the death of the body.
Therefore, disobedience to the order of creation as set by the Creator brings about spiritual cancer and death being the result.

But know God's heart when He says, "Mercy triumphs over Judgment". "He does not want anyone to perish, but wants everyone to come to repentance." God gave you free will. Your free to choose Mercy through trusting in Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins or disobey and reject God's Mercy. But remember, In the want to do it your own way and ignore the cliff in front of you you will fall!
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Icy_Uranus
Icy_Uranus: Apple / fruit of knowledge, it doesn't matter its a fairy tale. I don't really care about specifics. You knew what I was talking about, so the point was made.

But you hit upon something there. Your god would have liked to have kept you ignorant, just like religions do. Excellent point.

But your theory of "spiritual cancer" being the cause of death is a load of BS.

As we get older, the cells of our bodies also age. As they age they replace fewer new cells, until they reach the point of complete failure to replace any cells. Cells can split so many times before they stop splitting altogether.

Your "spiritual cancer" doesn't account for the fact that different species have differnet life spans. Or do you think that a fly is more spiritually corrupt then us, hence the life span of 30 days?
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Transformed
Transformed: >>>>>>>"But you hit upon something there. Your god would have liked to have kept you ignorant, just like religions do. Excellent point."

Granted! Religions do suppress the truth I agree. But Jesus warned of those who would come in His name and not be of Him. On the point above you critically miss the truth at hand. They were not being kept ignorant! Why? They walked in complete unity with God before the fall and God as the Supreme Being possessing all knowledge and truth was to be their source of learning. The fruit of the tree and the command not to eat was but a test of obedience NOT their only source of knowledge that God was cruelly keeping from them as you suppose.



>>>>>>>"As we get older, the cells of our bodies also age. As they age they replace fewer new cells, until they reach the point of complete failure to replace any cells. Cells can split so many times before they stop splitting altogether."

I don't think this disproves what I said but just describes the process of the body breaking down towards death through decay which the previous posts explained. Enlighten me?

>>>>>>>>"Your "spiritual cancer" doesn't account for the fact that different species have differnet life spans. Or do you think that a fly is more spiritually corrupt then us, hence the life span of 30 days?"

You forget that it's humans who sin. The fly is no more spiritually corrupt than the crap it's feeding on. It's subject to decay because of your sin. It's you that has a soul not the fly.
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Icy_Uranus
Icy_Uranus: It means there is a biological clock that is ticking away inside of everything. Every living thing has a time limit to when it expires. Every non-living thing also breaks down eventually. This is the way of nature. Humans are not above nature, we are part of it. It is arrogant to assume we are above it. It is also arrogant to assume we are the cause of nature.

The fly is subject to decay because of nature, not sin. As with everything is has a time limit before its cells breakdown. Your explanation of "spiritual cancer" does not cover plants and animals, so you claim human sin to be the cause. This is a weak theory. Its like saying we all die because we fart and because we fart plants and animals must die too.
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Yahweh
Yahweh: The reason that it seems our Creator wanted to keep us ....I'll use the word Innocent ,is because He has placed man here many times and the results were always the same ,man in his infinate wisdom ,caused his own destruction [much like he is doing today] ,those who were destroyed in the flood of Noah's time ,had turned their backs on He WHo Created them in favor of GOD worship [the Bible makes a clear distinction just whom the Creator is and who God is ]
Most of if not all who are connected with religions of today are guilty of GOD worship and worship of GRAVEN Images and IDOLS also clearly condemned by our Creator .
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Oolleh
Oolleh: People have worshiped idols, statues and fetish objects since times immemorial. My great grandfather got rid of the last ones belonging to our family.
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: transformed if death and sin are in any way connected as you say then if your loving Jesus was not able to sin why was he able to die?
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bagofBEANs
bagofBEANs: Another irrational, unexplainable inconsistency...
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bahcatha2
bahcatha2: If irrational, then explain, sin causes death according to religion. Jesus died so then obviously by your beliefs he was a sinner correct or are you preaching hypocrisy like the rest of you ass wipe religious types.
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Mari_Blue
Mari_Blue: “I've met God across his long walnut desk with his diplomas hanging on the wall behind him, and God asks me, "Why?" Why did I cause so much pain? Didn't I realize that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness? Can't I see how we're all manifestations of love? I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God's got this all wrong. We are not special. We are not crap or trash, either. We just are. We just are, and what happens just happens. And God says, "No, that's not right." Yeah. Well. Whatever. You can't teach God anything.”
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