The Revolution

Lumpenproletariat
Lumpenproletariat:

Isn't it obvious that we need a "Revolution"? Isn't there something basically wrong which needs to change? How could there be a Revolution that succeeds for a change (as opposed to most/all revolutions which have failed)?

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Lumpenproletariat
Lumpenproletariat:

Here are 3 requirements for any Revolution which has a chance to succeed:

1) Peaceful: It cannot propose anything violent, because this would just be suppressed by worse violence.

2) Equality: It has to start in such a way that no one participating in it has any more power than any other participant. There has to be some kind of 100% equality of everyone who participates, and this includes a requirement that no one can be excluded from participation.

3) Long-Term: There has to be recognition that this Revolution will probably require at least 100 years (maybe longer) to finally succeed.
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Even though these requirements would make the "Revolution" difficult to put into action (or make any action difficult), still some kind of Revolution is needed. At least long-term.

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Lumpenproletariat
Lumpenproletariat:

DIALOGUE

It has to be understood that some form of Dialogue is necessary as a basic part of any Revolution that can succeed. Describing the nature of this Dialogue is fundamental.

This Dialogue has to happen in multiple places and times, perhaps each one independently, so it's not one unique group of persons, but many such dialogues, happening at many different times and places. Actually some version of it is already happening, but it needs to spread to many locations, and the basic structure of this Dialogue has to become formalized at least in part.

And no one person or group can be the "Founder" of this dialogue process -- rather, it has to begin spontaneously, here and there, in one form or another, and evolve to something more widespread.

The Form of the Dialogue has to be such that no one initially is the "Leader" or Moderator or Facilitator etc. Perhaps there can be a procedure that chooses a facilitator by random selection. It cannot be by vote of the participants, because someone has to determine the procedure of the voting, which is arbitrary. There can be nothing done arbitrarily to set the Dialogue in motion, because this necessarily excludes someone from the process.

Maybe there can be no "leader" or "facilitator" at first. Rather, the initial dialogue would be a small-enough group of participants that there is no need for someone to be "in charge" -- but hopefully the Dialogue can happen spontaneously with a small group who can agree to have one person speak at a time.

So, the nature of the Dialogue, the procedure, has to be determined at the outset. If there are to be rules for the Dialogue, these rules have to be decided upon somehow, so that everyone agrees with the rules.

Initially we must have in mind a dialogue process with only a small number of participants, so it's possible for anything decided upon to be agreed to by every participant. There has to be UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT to anything, at the outset. Possibly unanimous agreement is necessary as a basic part of the Revolution, even throughout, with no one ever being "overruled" because they're in the minority.

This is a basic issue to be considered in any theory of a Revolution for doing serious change in the social system. I.e., whether a "minority" is ever to be overruled.

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junyabee
junyabee: De La Druz-Garcia Program

https://votesocialist2024.com/our-program

twitter.com/votesocialist24/status/1699815454426951733
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Lumpenproletariat
Lumpenproletariat:

When is it appropriate to overrule the minority? or for anyone to overrule someone else?
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junyabee
junyabee: If the words of the Declaration of Independence aren't so hollow, utopian, and platitudinous-l. The Preamble
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume
among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of
Nature and of Nature's [Just Dynamic] entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to a separation [from the decorum of order under which they intolerably suffer]
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Lumpenproletariat
Lumpenproletariat:

The socialist revolutions of the past, like in Russia and Cuba, are not what is needed today.
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junyabee
junyabee: The form of moral authority accepted and subordinated to, as valid by the general public or crucial mass would be more in line with cultural scofflaw,,
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