United Kingdom is just asking for it (Page 2)

WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Ghostgeek, you're free to come take telephones, cars, etc. And in return send back the gold, monies gained from the resources taken, compensation for the slave labour, etc.

Sounds like a sweet deal for the ex-colonies and not so much for the ex-colonisers.

Without those past colonies, the ex-colonisers will have nothing. We can admit that much. So let's not pretend that past colonies should be so thankful for anything. Colonial countries were built on their backs.




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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
I read Britain looted $45 Trillion from India from 1765 to1938. I don't think Britain can afford reimbursement but I'm sure Indians will be willing to send over their telephones and cars for that sum haa.

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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: If these here ex-colonies got such a raw deal, now's the time for them to turn the clock back. They can ditch all the industrial goods, the tech stuff, modern medicines, communications, education, etc and go back to living their lives the way they did before the first European ship turned up.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Either that or stop whining about the past.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: In the ancient Mediterranean, slavers targeted women. Many of theseenslaved women went to regional markets but some were shipped to Indiawhere they could be used to access markets that supplied the Eastern luxury products profitable back in the West. Women, labeled yavani (Ionic Greek) in India, could have been from the Persian conquests of the EasternMediterranean, Alexanders Hellenistic colonies in Bactria, Indo-Greeks, oreventually, women captured anywhere in the Roman Empire. Greek slaves proved to be popular in India, appearing in Sanskrit, Prakrit, Tamil, andSyriac texts in three main roles. First, lists of attendants in royal harems include yavani as early as the fifth century B.C. in Bihar. Second, dramas and poetry in late antiquity brand Greeks as the preferred female bodyguards of royals. Third, multiple sources identify Western women working ascourtesans, barmaids, and “flute girls” in the robust sex/entertainmentcareers of ancient India. Foreign slaves provided prestige and demonstratedthe imperial reach of those who possessed them. The desire for foreign exoticaby the elite in a wealthy region like India increased the danger of enslavement and long-distance displacement for the women of the ancient Mediterranean,a risk that has not disappeared for those in vulnerable places today.

[ https://www.academia.edu/44976176/The_Prestige_Makers_Greek_Slave_Women_in_Ancient_India ]

So is India thinking of reimbursing Greece for its importation of slaves from that country?
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
There is no ‘if the colonies’ got the raw deal. It is a fact that they got a raw deal.

Colonisation was for the benefit not of those in the colonies or from the colonies but for the colonial countries themselves.

It is the colonial countries that depended heavily on the colonies and not vice versa.


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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
I must admit, the UK doesn’t look worth $45 Trillion. I mean could’ve done better. How was it possible to even fck that up haaha
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: OK, so should we in the U.K. ask Italy to reimburse us for the Roman occupation? How much do you think we should ask for?
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Ghost, the next indian person you see, just say two thanks: one for the cuisine and the other for the $45 Trillion. 👌

I don’t know how you can “want back” stuff that was sold to the ex-colonies and bought. HA can you imagine that… these ex colonies not only carried the progress of the ex Colonial countries but also their own AND bought all these modern stuff AND even advanced things of their own.

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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I'll pass on saying, "Thanks," for India's cuisine as I never touch it.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: But I'll be happy to pass on the debt India owes to the U.K. for turning it into a thriving industrial power.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Seeing that Europeans loved the Indian spice so mich that they risked their lives to find a new route, I’d say it was probably really good.

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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Maybe so, but I'm sticking to good old Engish grub, thank you very much.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Sure do that, Ghost, and report back to the thread.

Just a side note, will the pillaging and slaughtering cost be deducted ? It might set you in debt.

Don’t mind me. I just like these little details.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Can you call it English though if the cuisine there is not unique?

Sausage is more the German thing, mash potatoes known for being the Irish thing, toast the American breakfast… baked beans from the Native Americans...

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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Let's stick with the little details.

The genocide suffered by the Hindus of India at the hands of Arab, Turkish, Mughal and Afghan occupying forces for a period of 800 years is as yet formally unrecognised by the World.

With the invasion of India by Mahmud Ghazni about 1000 A.D., began the Muslim invasions into the Indian subcontinent and they lasted for several centuries. Nadir Shah made a mountain of the skulls of the Hindus he killed in Delhi alone. Babur raised towers of Hindu skulls at Khanua when he defeated Rana Sanga in 1527 and later he repeated the same horrors after capturing the fort of Chanderi. Akbar ordered a general massacre of 30,000 Rajputs after he captured Chithorgarh in 1568. The Bahamani Sultans had an annual agenda of killing a minimum of 100,000 Hindus every year.

[ https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history ]

Sounds like the Arabs, Turks and Afghans will need to divvy up a fair whack as well.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Will Durant argued in his 1935 book “The Story of Civilisation: Our Oriental Heritage” (page 459):

“The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period.”
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Look at what we have here, a beautiful execution of the ol' Move the Goal Post Fallacy.

Moved from " Imma go to India to get a repay my England" to "Well uh in AD.."

Moved from coming at me about Colonisation to "Well uh in AD.."


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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Start holding people to account for the past and it's what you get.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Seems that you've lost your way in this conversation, mate. You might want to take a pause and retrace your steps a bit.

I liked the sneaky lil Move the Goal Post Fallacy move though.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I rather like the path I'm on, thanks all the same.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
You're welcome but, I'll pass your 'thanks' onto someone from one of the British ex Colonies.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: What about contacting the Italians and asking them how much they're going to shell out to their former colonies?
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Should come to a tidy sum.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Slavery was an ever-present feature of the Roman world. Slaves served in households, agriculture, mines, the military, workshops, construction and many services. As many as 1 in 3 of the population in Italy or 1 in 5 across the empire were slaves and upon this foundation of forced labour was built the entire edifice of the Roman state.

[ https://www.worldhistory.org/article/629/slavery-in-the-roman-world/ ]
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