United Kingdom is just asking for it

The13th: Boring afternoon, so thought of having a go at those English boys. Really havent heard of them lately. Not sure what they have been doing lately since the sun set on the Empire.

The13th: United Kingdom is asking for what? I am not sure.

Their PM looks like a butcher.

WHlSKY:
Last I read, the PM had some ‘partygate’ going on. He lied to the people about some party during Covid restrictions that he imposed.

A couple of the remaining Caribbean islands were/are clambering to leave become Republics. (About time)

I’ve not heard much.

WHlSKY:
He looks like a clown that just wiped off his face and pull a red wig off.

The13th: In my region, I noticed that places colonized by British tend to fare better after going independence, having adopted their legal, constitution, administration, education. The Brit took away lots of wealth, but also left good things behind. They never seems to have any intention to stay too long. As long as they can, but not beyond that.

While places colonized by Spain, Dutch, France tend to have nothing good left behind. Lawlessness is just under a thin cover.

In that sense, I have a bit of respect for the Brit.

But after WW2 they sort of going downhill, didnt have much influence in world affair. Just keeping quiet.

There use to be an IRA giving them trouble, but for the last 20 years even IRA has disappeared. May be the Brit is so down and out that they are not worth the trouble of those IRA gunmen.

The13th: At the height of IRA, we even have a movie Patriot Games after them.

WHlSKY:
Which ex colonies are you referring to? And demonstrate how their structure lead to any ‘lawlessness’.

The13th: Philippines is under American sphere of influence. I am not sure it is exactly defined as colony, but their lawlessness is well known.

Indonesia is under Dutch, but Dutch never left much of a legal system in that land, so Indonesia tend to errupt into violence every some years.

Vietnam is under French, French seems to run a very corrupted regime, so Communist kick them out.

But in most British colonies, I think may be with the exception of Myanmar, the rule of law prevail.

South American is under Spanish. @Papi tell us how is the killing there you from that region.

Sorry I am not able to tell you what structure is in place here or there. I never break law, I wont know where is the court house. I wont know any law at all. I guess that is the highest form of lawfulness, that normal people get on their live without knowing law.

WHlSKY:
British ex colonies also includes: Egypt, Sudan, Kenya, Uganda, Gambia, Sierra Leone, northwestern Somalia, Malawi and many more that you might label 'lawless'.

The error you are making is selecting little weak snippets of information to prop your ignorance up.

You jumped too easily to praise the British (maybe for personal reasons) and did not pause to investigate the causes of the issues in ex colonies.

You will see that the issue faced in these places (the ex colonies) is not correlated to the legal system or legal structure. For example, in South America each country face a different issue (for one country the violence stems from the drug industry, and another it will be sanctions & political instability). In the ex British colonies, it may be civil war, and another may be economic turmoil.

It is good that you have had no deals with the law, but 'normal people' tend to know the laws of their country. I'm not sure why you're proud of being ignorant of the legal structure or the laws of where you live...

The13th: @papi its very simple, if the education, upbringing, the state of economy create a person that never fault the law in his whole life, then the country must be doing right. He doesnt have to break the law to get what he want. He doesnt have time to know law, since he does not need the law at all. Like you have the right to remain silence. Why, I dont want to remain silence, whats wrong with not remaining silence. Only criminal needs to know he has the right to remain silence. In a perfect world, everyone get good education and upbringing, and live in reasonable economic condition, there law and police and jail is not required.

The13th: I meant to have a go at the Brit, but it aint easy, they have made tremendous contribution to the world. It might take years to spell out all those contribution. If every country can make a contribution like the Brit, we might have a perfect world.

WHlSKY:
A person/ persons breaking the law of a country is not a reflection or correlated to which country was their past coloniser. In addition to that, every country has law breakers. Even Britain itself.

Every adult should know the law of their country. They may not know each detail but will have a good grasp. A person also does not have to break a law in order to know the law. Countries have their laws available online. You can search up and even read the constitution or any other law document (Acts etc).

If you choose to remain ignorant of your rights and of the laws you only leave yourself open to be exploited.

WHlSKY:
One thing you should note too, the legislation of countries differ. Even in the region here the laws of South American countries differ.

The legislative process also have changed from colonial times for many countries. The laws have also changed and continue to be modified.

WHlSKY:

I think the colonisers took more from countries than they contributed. The disruption from colonisation still lingers in many countries. Colonisation was to the benefit of the colonisers and they were dependent on these outside territories. Looking at the standard of living & issues faced by the majority of the world's population, I'd say the world has not shaped up to the best level of living.

I mean, no one has time to listen to Mozart or read Shakespeare whilst living in poverty brought on by inequalities. So what good is something if it does not benefit a great percentage of the world's population? Or if it comes at a greater cost. Things to think about maybe.

The13th: I was in another one of those Christian chat .... lots of burn in hell thing .... so first off can I give credit for Queen Elizabeth to stop those Catholic vs Protestant thing, and to start off the separation of Church influence in politics? Otherwise those Christian will still be burning people on stack these days.

Thanks the Brit for making sense.

Fractured fairy tale:

Fractured fairy tale: When is there any winners from Wars
The famous historian's can make out there the vallent Victor's with gushing praise and all the rest of it
But on the whole Innocent people just get killed from all sides, and it puts everyone in Dept for decades
But isn't that what Bankers want Dept

ghostgeek: Yeah, the UK is asking for your cash. Got any spare dosh, send it to us because we need it more than you do.

ghostgeek: When we talk of colonisers, which ones are we talking about because the world has had so many?

ghostgeek: If people in far flung countries don't like the legacy of colonisation, they're free to give up their telephones and cars and reacquaint themselves with how their ancestors lived. Don't see much evidence of it happening but it's a choice nonetheless.

Fractured fairy tale: The United kingdom make one fatal mistake it promoted it's self as a empire

The one that came after it Convinces everyone It's not a Empire but mearly helping the world

ghostgeek: Yeah, the UK is an empire of two square feet. Now divvy up what you owe us.

Fractured fairy tale: Sorry we were Taken over by the new empire all profits go too them , Only name only ties too the Mother Country

ghostgeek: Bugger, so how am I expected to pay for a banana?

Fractured fairy tale: Do what the rest of us poor slobs do
Start Planting
lol

ghostgeek: Friendly weeds plant themselves but I'm less certain bananas would thrive where I live.