The Covid pandemic is not over for anyone until it is over for everyone. (Page 41) Kojensa: Analysis: How Omicron highlights fading hope of herd immunity from COVID - 21 January 2022 That is not to say that prior immunity offers no benefit. Instead of herd immunity, many experts interviewed by Reuters said there was growing evidence that vaccines and prior infection would help boost population immunity against COVID-19, which makes the disease less serious for those who are infected, or become reinfected. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/how-omicron-highlights-fading-hope-herd-immunity-covid-2022-01-20/ Kojensa: Well it looks like no free ride, no more herd immunity just boosting population immunity against Covid. That is living with with Covid as endemic. Still the same plan of opening up as safety as possible with minimum hospitalisations and deaths due to Covid. The Covid pandemic is not over for anyone until it is over for everyone. (Edited by Kojensa)  GeraldTheMoron: Could have been over sooner if the pharmaceuticals companies hadn't fought so hard to push their single line of jabs is the only way out. https://covidcalltohumanity.org/2021/05/30/how-ivermectins-success-has-been-suppressed-by-mainstream-media/ Highlights • Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro. • A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48 h in cell culture. • Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing. • Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines. Abstract Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited to monitoring/containment. We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-spectrum anti-viral activity in vitro, is an inhibitor of the causative virus (SARS-CoV-2), with a single addition to Vero-hSLAM cells 2 h post infection with SARS-CoV-2 able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in viral RNA at 48 h. Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 South Africa and Japan worked this out for themselves, yet Australian authorities continue to use failed "remedies" What's in the contracts the government signed on our behalf that makes them suppress any kind of conversation? Bet you believe the government's climate change BS too lol (Edited by GeraldTheMoron) GeraldTheMoron: Funny that vaccinated are dying more hey? twitter.com/Sean_Shinil_Kim/status/1488045392381894659/photo/1 twitter.com/JaggerMickOZ/status/1488046264810106881 twitter.com/LuanaGoriss/status/1488007715142070272/photo/1 Lol people are waking up @LT_Aust · 4h Natural Immunity Diary Entry 31/01/22 Dear Diary, it’s been many months since Dan Andrews labelled this the pandemic of the Un Vaxxed I checked around, none of my un Vaxxed family & friends have it, only the Vaxxed seem to be getting it I think Dan is pulling himself Misinformation now means information the left doesn’t agree with. (Edited by GeraldTheMoron) Kojensa: Read again, it is IN VITRO ONLY not in vivo The concentration it is needed to be effective is not safe. Ivermectin requires a concentration 10- to 20-fold higher than is safely achievable in the blood. https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpt.1889 Sep 25, 2021 - Ivermectin has never been proven as an effective Covid treatment, and studies that said it was have been either poorly conducted, too small for their findings to be applied more widely https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/25/fraudulent-ivermectin-studies-open-up-new-battleground-between-science-and-misinformation Kojensa: How is it anti vax cry out against Covid vaccines that had already completed and passed all phases of tests but closed their eyes on Ivermectin that has not pass the efficiency nor safety test for it use in Covid treatment? They also chose to close their eyes on the side effects and deaths from Ivermectin? Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2114907 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)62668-2/fulltext https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/veterinary-science-and-veterinary-medicine/ivermectin (Edited by Kojensa) Kojensa: 17 Jan 2022 — Inaccurate claims about ivermectin being used to treat COVID-19 in Japan, a country where almost 80% of the population is fully vaccinated https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2TX1GK Research Shows This Drug Shouldn't Be Used For COVID-19, But In South Africa Many Do https://www.npr.org/2021/09/13/1036533173/despite-warnings-south-africans-are-using-an-animal-medication-to-treat-covid-19 (Edited by Kojensa) GeraldTheMoron: Lol @ Reuters! OMG and you cite The Guardian too!! Them lot are as complicit as hell! You people sure do like to believe the government hey?? "Govern me harder Daddy" Ivermectin has been used for decades, as a human treatment (nobel prize awarded) and you drag out a report calling it animal medicine! Miss this bit? We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-spectrum anti-viral activity in vitro, is an inhibitor of the causative virus (SARS-CoV-2), with a single addition to Vero-hSLAM cells 2 h post infection with SARS-CoV-2 able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in viral RNA at 48 h. Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 What a dufus! rofl (Edited by GeraldTheMoron) Kojensa: Wow here starts the name calling already. Would like to lol you cited Twitter, anyone can tweets, you, fairy.... but I feel sad rather that laughing No it is not funny people are dying from Covid. It is very sad that some of the deaths are preventable. It is very sad that some people spread misinformation and may caused these deaths at least they are partially responsible Sad that misinformed people are using Ivermectin instead of Molnupiravir or Paxlovid Btw out of 7 people that I know personally that contracted Covid they are all unvaccinated and one was hospitalised I know there are also vaccinated people who had Covid. I lived in Covid central and had escape Covid so far. If I do get it I will most probably get a mild one. This is not only because I am vaccinated but also practicing basic prevention actions such as hand washing, masks, social distancing if possible Hospitalisation and ICU admission – 4 November 2021 77% were UNVACCINATED!!!! 11% were fully vaccinated (9% partially and 3% under investigation) https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/690073/Evidence-Check-Hospitalisation-and-ICU-admission-relative-risk.pdf GeraldTheMoron: Name calling?  Hahahahahahahahaha keep believing the BS the gov't sells! Twitter quotes citing government sites is misinfomation huh? But yours are all legit hey from 3 mths ago? Pity the more they jab, the more get sick and they then say unvaxxed because only 1 or 2 rofl Deaths have been no worse than yearly flu statistics in previous years. If I had covid, it's milder than a cold! AND I'm not vaccinated, so don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining rofl Very efficacious those "vaccines" 31/01/22 27 deaths with Covid in NSW yesterday. Official numbers: 8 triple jabbed 16 double jabbed 3 no jab 24/27 deaths = 89% fully jabbed 8/27 deaths = 30% boosted Source: NSW Health website. Do you see ANY evidence here for jab efficacy? Me either... ( (Edited by GeraldTheMoron) GeraldTheMoron: Anyhow, I'll leave you to your delusional views. Have fun spreading your government sanctioned misinformation! (Edited by GeraldTheMoron) Kojensa: You are projecting. It is you that are making an unbelievably brazen claim and that I have seen through your attempt at deception. Keeps on believing the BS from conspiracy and anti vaxxers and their supporters and their made up numbers and data I stated the date and the ORIGINAL source and 3 months old is better than making up numbers. Forward 3 months more unvaccinated are hospitalised due to Covid still. There are more vaccinated than non vaccinated so more unvaccinated being hospitalised due to Covid meaning the percentage is actually higher How many patients in hospital are unvaccinated? BMJ 2022; 376 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.o5 (Published 04 January 2022) Cite this as: BMJ 2022;376:o5 It is not just the cite but also the content of both non government or government Is there any anti vaxxers with their own data and statistics on Covid deaths? What do they base it on or how they get that number? I am not for or against the current government here. I am against lies, making up data and both misinformation and disinformation. Kojensa: "Pity the more they jab, the more get sick and they then say unvaxxed because only 1 or 2 rolf >another made up BS. Where you get this 1 or 2 only? "Deaths have been no worse than yearly flu statistics in previous years." > Another made up BS claimed with zero evidence. I hope anyone who read this do their own checks. Covid causing more deaths than flu, way way more. There is ZERO death from flu in Australian for more than a year because actions taken to prevent Covid also prevented flu. Actions such as hand disinfectant and social distancing https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/australia-records-zero-flu-deaths-over-past-12-mon GeraldTheMoron: I get the vaccinated V unvaccinated numbers from the NSW Health figures they release daily. Good enough source for you? From SMH NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant said that, of the 27 people who had died, eight had received a booster, 16 had received two doses and three were not vaccinated. Of the four aged under 65 who died, none had received a booster and all had “significant underlying health conditions”, Dr Chant said. 31/01/22 27 deaths with Covid in NSW yesterday. Official numbers: 8 triple jabbed 16 double jabbed 3 no jab 24/27 deaths = 89% fully jabbed 8/27 deaths = 30% boosted 3/27 unjabbed 3 out of 27 not vaccinated, doesn;t seem that the vaccines are doing such a flash job. (Edited by GeraldTheMoron) WHlSKY: AllanBarker, are you the user who came around saying he has the flu and it might me omicron but didn’t get tested for it. Then came back saying you beat omicron. Although not testing even because you believed that the common flu is no longer around? You seem like that deleted member under a new name. GeraldTheMoron: I probably seem like a lot of people, doesn't mean I'm them, does it? And no, I've not had the rona, sorry. WHlSKY: Hence why I asked instead of stating that you are. Are you the former username Angry Beaver? “ I had covid, it's milder than a cold! AND I'm not vaccinated, so don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining rofl” ^^Was your statement.. so you didn’t have covid or you did? Take a pause maybe. GeraldTheMoron: Sorry, still not angry or a beaver. Turns out it was just the sniffles, not rona, my bad lol  Fractured fairy tale: This Stupidity Must Stop Immediately  Immediately I tells ya  People don't know how the Medical field is Supposed too work Second Opinions from Doctors are common place or they Were There is no Absolute right and everything else is miss Information That's BS It's what keeps the whole system in Check It's bigger than one person Who would have the Arrogance too say I am Science , Saying that in Itself is Why aren't the media doing there Job They can't just shut people down label them as Misinformation This is Stupid Brought too you by liers Same as the Weapons of mass Distraction A ND when there exposed for being full of it They Double down start firing and Jailing any one that won't give Gushing Praise No Fractured fairy tale: If Bin Larden did it Witch The Breaking News Told every one Over and over and  again even Before The second Tower Fell ,and They all this evedence ,Well why Not Bring him back too stand Triial ,You Know Follow the Rule of Law The wokanarti are Always Going on about That would of been More Effective If they were Trying Too stop Hig Jackers and supposdely keeping every one safe , No But they Don"t Do that Do They They Dump In in The Ocean  And Keep Bombing and KillingPeople Like Thats onna do any thing , Rediculas (Post deleted by Kojensa ) Fractured fairy tale: You Know Because people who work in Hospitipals wear Masks and That , Don"t mean Its Reasonable For the General Public , People Who work In Hospitipals Are Comming in Contact with sick People 24?7 , ITS WHAT HOSPITIALS ARE FOR  Geez I see People walking around up the street With Face Shields Masks :deadorse: Its  (Post deleted by Kojensa ) | Politics Chat Room 86 People Chatting Similar Conversations |