Reparations. What does that mean ?
GeraldtheGnome: In the USA there are Black People (and I'm not going to label them African American) that go on about reparations. I know most of them do not bring it up but some do. Anyway one of them in one of those States there is pushing for or has brought about reparations there. What does it mean and is it a good or bad thing to have ? The reason why I don't refer to them as African Americans is because even out of those with dark skin or are half cast yet white in appearance (but are of the origin of at least one black race or dark at least) were never born in Africa. Slavery of the kind that was around in the USA that is no longer there is terrible. Is it right to give someone money or whatever as a belated compensation of what happened to an Ancestor that died well before the one that is now alive was even born ?
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GeraldtheGnome: The ones that it's happened to are the ones that should have gotten it. Anyone that hasn't karked it deserves to get whatever they should get, that's my whole point, no one else.
GeraldtheGnome: I don't know of any such thing here but given the chance just like the infamous Black Lives Matter movement it will be copied here if given a chance if it hasn't already happened.
chronology: Gerald, Repetitions is a very complex subject indeed. If you visit Bavaria you will meet many Germans whose families were forced out of Suddetland after WW2. Around a million people were fo leave their homes and everything. They walked a long trail to Germany, many settling in Bavaria. To say that they were traumatized is an understatement, and around a hundred thousand died. For years afterwards the Suddetenland Germans held a yearly ceremony where they would lay flowers at the foot of'The Cross of the German East' to remember their fallen relative's.
Then there is the Arminian folks who died during the ethnic cleansing in Turkey.
The tragic Jewish folks during the 1930s, they suffered institutionalised racism.
Irish folks insist over 2.000.000. of their people died during the 19th century Great Hunger in Ireland.
Millions have died in Africa from Tribal violence.
It is not surprising America beats itself up none stop over slavery. The world's leading Liberal Democracy has to does it not? But American Slavery era is small potatoes compared with all the Tragedy in this world.
And don't forget the Communists. Murdered millions and drove millions out of their homes.
Do all the victims descendents deserve reperations? The United Nations in New York City will have a line longer than Black Friday at Walmart.
No disrespect at all to communities that have suffered as a result of human inhumanity. But perhaps we can all learn from the Suddetenland Germans. The young ladies in Derndill folk dress stood at the foot of the Cross during the past ceremonies and prayed for their lost past. They found peace doing that.
refurbwoodart: I just wonder how far they want to take reparations. I wonder if the Irish will get it for being indentured servants,or the Chinese will get it for only being paid 1/3rd what others did to work on the railroads,or the Mormons for being run off land they properly owned to avoid arrest,or the native Americans for the Europeans taking over their country. It a very slippery slope and blacks act like they are the only people in this country that were done wrong in the building of this country but in actuality they are the only ones that were awarded 40 acres and a mule in the Emancipation Proclamation so they are the only ones who have received any reparations yet.
refurbwoodart: Before the pandemic Trump had black unemployment down below 3% and nationwide he had all unemployment down to under5%
chronology: Granma. The United States Government paid 20000 dollars to every Japanese American placed in detention camps during WW2. In today's money that would be around 40000 dollars.
Germany has paid out around 80 billion dollars since 1952 in monthly welfare cheque's to Jewish victims of racism in the Nazi era. Germany has expanded the pension program to include home visits to elderly Jewish people to make sure their final years are comfortable and as free of distress as possible.
For African Americans compensation could involve similar monthly cheques to guarantee that they are assured a dignified standard of living.
Americans are going to have to make some pretty big changes in how they view life and and money. Not just for African Americans. Automation and AI are set to replace 50pc of the American workforce in the next two decades. Most of the jobs being replaced are professional high paying jobs. Americans will have to accept that assistance from the Government is not just political vote catching, it is part of the infrastructure of future America.
refurbwoodart: Goo thing I have guns an woods to hunt in hahaha I got plenty of game too. Rabbits,squirrels,deer,ducks,pheasant. Plenty of game and a few lakes and two rivers to fish in. So I wont starve.
refurbwoodart: Hell i get a couple of cases of tomatoes each year,plenty of corn,peas,butter beans,lima beans,okra and I live in strawberry,blueberry,and within an hour of watermelon capital and they also grow cantaloupes so that way I dont get scurvy. I also grow my own garden that the democrats wanted to outlaw but fortunately I live in a Republican controlled state so that didn't get passed. They proposed that so that people are dependent only on food they can purchase but where I live i know farmers and packing warehouse owners so I dont have to buy those things. I get them free the ones that don't pass the correct size or if its deformed they can't package them so they give those away after they box them up. Got a few folks that are members of my lodge who bring cases upon cases of deformed and small or large vegetables and you just grab a bag and get what you want. The owners dint mind either because then they dont have to pay to have them hauled off and dumped in a pit.
refurbwoodart: However Trump did do away with some of those restrictions they had on vegetables that grow deformed or in odd shapes after democrats passed laws requiring that those aren't to be sold for some reason they think if a tomato isn't perfectly round it isn't fit to be sold or eat but I think they taste fine. Make a great tomato sandwich. Slap some mayonnaise on some bread throw a little sea salt on it and chomp,good eating.
GeraldtheGnome: If someone did something wrong to another, then that Person, no one else during that time and no one else afterwards (including not even after that ones death) should only do whatever is appropriate, not less than that and not more than that.
refurbwoodart: Beaver I completely agree slavery ended 140 years ago and equality complete equality has been around over 50years but all we here time after time after time is I was done wrong,I was held down. Was Obama held down,I guess that how he got to be president being held down huh. The only people holding them down is themselves by complaining and bitching about something that was done to their great great grandfolks. Get over it its done. The subject is dead the North won 140 years ago het some gumption and get out and get it on your own like all us have to do. I wasn't handed a damn thing at all I worked my ass off to get it. To be honest I was refused 4 jobs because I wasn't black or minority. I applied for jobs I was more qualified for because of experience and hard work but it was given to black guys less qualified with less experienced just to fill a quota that was required that they have a minimum of minorities.
refurbwoodart: Beaver please do me a favor look at my thread Joe Biden announces he wants to make Islam monitory learning in schools and lol at all the personal insults that crazy person put on there if it isn't a problem please