The Zenger Society: A Forum For Free Speech (Page 371)

KeithJ
KeithJ: Another part of trump the dump supporters
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Aye, Echo is still around? The forum appears quiet.
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According to a post Echo made 3 weeks ago, he was scheduled for open heart surgery on Monday 10/31/2022

Topic: Politics
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Damn really? But I thought he was alright. Maybe I'm mistaking it for another event. He had something done in Italy. Perhaps he is resting up.
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I don't know anything about that. I only know he posted he was having open heart surgery.

I do know that when a family member of mine had open heart surgery, they were in the hospital for about 5 days and then they went to a swing bed for daily physical therapy. That took another 2 weeks.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Okay, I haven't been around for awhile so this was probably a recent thing.

mhm he'll need to rest up from here and anything stress related.
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KeithJ
KeithJ: He is doing fair I seen him on a couple of days ago .
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Awesome!
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Echolegacy
Echolegacy:

I posted this here on this website just in case they decide to delete the other one. You never know what people will think of doing on their own. You can't put anything past anybody.




Echolegacy:



This post in particular is directed at Donald Trump, Nick Fuentes and "Ye" as he prefers to be known.



Lots of folks will find this offensive no doubt but much of my ire is directed at “Ye” who has finally proven that he is a classic—and not very original—Jew hater. If that bothers any other Jew haters, we’ll, then, you have my cordial invitation to go FUCK YOURSELVES. One way or another, I've had to deal with it for most of my adult life and although its intensity and its frequency has varied over the course of time, its always been a fact of life for me and I don't feel reticent about saying how sick and tired I am of dealing with it. Any sane person would feel the same way.



Well, I suppose it was bound to happen sooner or later, but I will limit myself to saying this: if “Ye,” the Jew hater, insists on telling us how much he hates Jews and how great he thinks Hitler was, then, if I want to call HIM a grinning, shuckin’ and jivin’ black n****r bastard that’s also okay, too, yes? You know……quid pro quo, and all that. Right? It just seems to be one of those things that never goes away although it tends to vacillate, depending upon certain factors. Although you can't blame Donald Trump for it completely, his presence and that of The Oath Keepers along with The Proud Boys have always had a touch of the storm trooper about themselves and their activities. If, God forbid, Trump were elected to a second term, you could easily see these groups become the new storm troopers with the power of life and death over their victims. Oh, and the Constitution? Didn't he say he wanted to abolish it? Where is it written that sane, law-abiding people HAVE to tolerate this sort of thing anyway? If you insist on threatening me with automatic weapons, be prepared for some pushback. Know what I mean? My one regret is that I wasn't alive during the Warsaw Ghetto so that I could take out as many NAZI rat bastards as I could. If I'd died, I'd have count my life as well spent but apparently, God had other plans in mind for me. In YOUR particular case, I hope you live long enough to know that God damns all liars, hypocrites and bigots like you and that you know how much he hates pricks just like you. They tell me that He's not supposed to yield to such emotions. but maybe that's not part of the plan. I'm not that Christlike; not yet. Maybe there are even things that God himself cannot accept; you and your wretched, accursed life must be one of them.



Got that, you antisemitic sonofabitch? You can kiss my ass and I say that in the name of my two dozen relatives who were shoveled into the ovens at Auschwitz, Dachau, and Treblinka. So that wasn't enough for you? They didn't endure enough filth, degradation, misery, oppression and violence to satisfy your bloodlust, you piece of human filth? I say this on THEIR behalf, you dirty sonofabitch, since they didn’t live long enough to avoid their skin being made into tattoos and ashtrays made of human thigh bones. So…FUCK YOU, Ye, you Jew hating piece of shit and I hope you get what’s coming to you. One day, somebody may take a shot at you and perhaps they won't miss. It all depends. Justice will come to you one day although I cannot say what shape it may assume. But rest assured----it will come, one way or another. I live for that day.



There will no doubt be a few people who will chide me for my language but that’s only because many of them hate Jews as much as Ye does. Antisemitism is on the rise all around this country, thanks to scum like Donald Trump, The Proud Boys and The Oath Keepers. I don’t say this to be provocative but only to make a point. Wire Club seems to care very little about the proliferation of hate speech anyway. Well, try THIS on for size, you fucking Jew hating hypocrites.



I am proud to be a free speech absolutist who has taught this particular subject as a high school elective class for many years now. So, spew your hatred because, yes, the Constitution grants you that right. Consequently, I know a little more about this sort of thing than the average person and I can usually recognize it for what it is whenever it rears its ugly head. Its insidious and omnipresent and even influences people's conversation although they might not always see it for what it is.



Take, for example, the far Right's obsession with George Soros and that classic antisemitic trope, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." About George Soros I have not much to say except for the ubiquity of his name but "The Protocols," has been around for decades and contains nearly every vile and despicable assertion regarding the threatening presence of Jews in American life for as long as I can remember. I won't go into detail about it here and now but if you google the phrase, you'll certainly find your share of material on it. Jean Paul Sarte has also written extensively on the matter and is certainly no stranger to the subject, but this gives a gloss of respectability to the topic, and this is not to say that Sarte is a Jew hater, but many so-called "intellectuals" invoke his name whenever the topic comes up. The point is that depending upon certain factors, the topic will always be with us one way or the other and has always been a part of Right-Wing hate speech. I suppose that now would be the perfect moment to give a resounding: FUCK YOU to cowardly scum like Kevin McCarthy who glibly and repeatedly condones antisemitic hatred whenever it suits him. Apparently, not all Nazi sympathizers wear jackboots and swear their allegiance to Adolf Hitler whenever they have the chance. Right, Kevin, you Jew hating sonofabitch?



I had always suspected that Wire Club had its own little coterie of bigots and Hitlerites, and here is the proof. I will no doubt receive my share of hate mail from Ye and the supporters of Nick (seig heil) Fuentes, but I am prepared for that. Remember: THIS Jew is prepared to take up arms to defend himself, should it come to that, so don’t be too surprised when the shit hits the fan. Are you clear on that, Nicky boy? The fact that Donald Trump likes to cozy up to scum like you and Ye only gives a patina of intellectual respectability to the issue although I apologize for placing the words "intellectual" and "Donald Trump" in the same context. I realized soon enough how completely incompatible those two words are.



Perhaps it’s not very dignified to post this but remember: the blistering and unbalanced HATRED that we know so well comes not from people like Nancy Pelosi, Adam Kinzinger, Charles Schumer, AOC, and the like but from scum like Rudy Giuliani, MJT, Ted Cruz, Lauren Boebert, Mike Lindell, Josh Hawley, Paul Gosar, and so many others on the Far Right. Say what you like about Democrats and Liberals, they have little tolerance for such blatant examples of race hatred. It's one thing to have ideological differences when it comes to politics; its something else again to openly promote Jew hatred like these characters do. Unfortunately, subjects like antisemitism are now mainstream and the Far Right simply turned a blind eye to the matter altogether. Moreover, the incendiary rhetoric of Donald Trump only adds fuel to the fire. The Republican Party has never really dealt with the issue of antisemitism in any meaningful way, and this is the end result: Jew hatred is no longer a "crackpot" aberration of the Far Right; it is, in fact, one of its mainstays and nobody can deny it either. What is more, I'd like it to be clearly understood that both men are harbingers of our own brand of home-grown fascism, and nobody should be surprised by that fact either. Sinclair Lewis was fond of saying that as far as the emergence of fascist ideology went, he felt that "it can't happen here," meaning the United States. I think he might have been mistaken on that point. To people like me, a Republican is a word that is nearly synonymous with the word "fascist" or "Nazi." Given the unrelenting torrent of propaganda and hatred emanating from the Far Right, what other conclusion can I draw? Well, maybe its not so much Wire Club as it is the free-flowing hatred, racial insults, innuendoes, slurs, ad hominem attacks and more that are so much a part of our public dialogue around here. We see so much of this sort of thing from so many diverse sources that we have become immune or desensitized to it. I really can't say any more but I certainly think I've had my share of it.



I guess I made my point plainly enough but there are dozens of other examples. If any of you Jew haters and other assorted racists want to take shots at me, go right ahead. There are plenty of Antifa folks on my side of the fence as there are on yours. The moral epilepsy of the Republican Party is enough to make a sane person puke their guts up. It might be a good idea to keep some Dramamine on hand just in case. I know quite a few ex-Republicans who wouldn't piss on your party leaders if they burst into flames and who can really blame them anyway?



So, once again: FUCK YOU, YE and eat shit and die, you racist scumbag. My platform might not be as far reaching as yours, but I still think the point is quite clear.


You're a vile, racist piece of shit and that's my final word on the subject.




ECHO












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Echolegacy
Echolegacy:




To Keith:



Well, I have to hand it to you because after all the months of predicting that, "Its coming!" I have to admit that I was just the least bit skeptical. It seemed, at least for a time, that Donald Trump was all bluster and fake threats of lawsuits along with his raft of flunkies, shills, yes men, liars, parasites and most of all, his lawyers, he was certainly going to get off Scot free. However, its the highly embarrassing appearance of his "trading cards" which only an idiot might cherish as keepsakes, but nobody is buying any of it. Not even the MAGA morons who dote on him and worship everything he says and does will buy into this boatload of rarified bullshit.



I think that people like Adam Kinzinger, Jaime Raskin, and Liz Cheney are truly upstanding Indvidual of unimpeachable integrity and maybe that's a surprise to most of us because we've become acclimated to the chicanery, the lies, the exaggerations and the presence of "alternative facts," surely you can relish, as I do, the way that the rats are finally deserting the sinking ship: Mark Meadows, Rudy Giuliani, Mo Brooks, Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Laurean Boebert, Mike Lindell, Paul Gosar, Sidney Powell, Kevin McNally, even that vile bitch, Kelley-Ann Conway, are all about to face the music. Of course, its entirely personal for me, but I LOVE watching Donald Trump squirm like an inmate about to get buggered by a gang of sweaty, hirsute, "bunkmates" because most (normal) people enjoy seeing the villain get his comeuppance, something with which, I think you will agree, includes INSURRECTION, corruption on a scale not to be believed, incompetence, authoritarianism (crypto fascism), perjury, tax fraud, theft of top secret government documents, compulsive lying and much, much more than that. He made the Presidency into a mockery of all that is decent, noble and dignified. Worst of all, he LAUGHED at and scorned the very laws that he was elected to protect, defend and preserve. He was, unarguably, the worst president that the country has yet to behold. Whatever else the Founders might have foreseen, it could never have included THIS. As for the MAGA group that idolizes him, it proves that there are more idiots out there than I'd realized otherwise, the IQ of our politicians is reaching shocking new lows.



It's doubtful that Trump himself will be frog marched off to the pokey in an orange jump suit, but there's no such guarantee for his accursed offspring, are there? Even his worthless and vapid daughter and his blockhead of a son-in-law are trying to distance themselves from him and as for his two idiot sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, well, there's certainly a place for them as circus clowns, or whatever else suits their paltry talents.



So, my hat is off to you, Keith, for calling it like it is and like it is going to be. Well done, my friend, well done.






ECHO
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KeithJ
KeithJ: Echo ,,yes and may Dump pay for it all real well as deserved .
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