The Zenger Society: A Forum For Free Speech (Page 348)

murrayduan
murrayduan:
We keep hearing more and more about Gov. Cuomo and his sexual situations from 3 women.
Anyone care to comment on this issue.

I have some questions about these claims. Do I think they happened, Yes.

Do I think they rise to the level of Sexual harassment or assault, This I have questions about.

Now I will ignore calls for resignation by Conservatives since they have no qualms about idolizing a known and admitted sexual predator Trump.

Cuomo is accused of verbally questioning a women about her dating preferences concerning men his age. She also claimed he kissed her when she left his office.

One we know not if she allowed it or he forced it upon her. We don't know what her signals were or if none did he thinks she was liking him? Did she admonish him for the kiss and did he try it again?

Now Cuomo is single and so far I have heard what I think many men say and do, trying to establish where they stand regarding a women they are attracted to.

The others have said he touched her back and arm , Ok not out of the realm of everyday occurrences.

He made unwanted advances, Hmm when does one find out it is unwanted? Misread signal or sexual predator?

Having operated several businesses in my life with numerous employees I can say I have seen much more feeble attempts at seeing if the opposite sex is interested.

We all have heard what is without any doubt what sexual assault or harassment would be, remember Trump bragging about grabbing women by their private's with impunity?

I also remember when Conservatives are charged with sexual harassment or assault they seem to rally around the predator. Jim Jordan was told by numerous Wrestler about the coach being touchy feely with his men, and Jordan was OK with it? So I guess it is Ok with Jordan if its man on man?

We all know about Trump.

Then Al Franken poses for a picture on a Plane where he mimics touching a sleeping women's breast and he is asked by Liberals to resign and he did.

Thoughts on this one? As of now I don't see that heinous a crime.

Let me add I have had women I do not know, sales people and business women touch me on the leg and arm during interaction. I will admit today with the currant climate of things it did cause me pause which it would not have 30 or 40 years ago.

But not sexual harassment IMO.
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murrayduan
murrayduan: Let me add, It was Ok with Justice Kavanaugh, It was OK with Justice Thomas, It was Ok with Trump. It was Ok for Jordan to ignore sexual assault on 12 young men he was supposed to protect.

It was not Ok with Al Franken, Not Ok with Cuomo,

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KeithJ
KeithJ: Yeah fails in comparison to others Yes and Franken just posed for a spoof picture and didn't touch .
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
An update on Cuomo and his accusers. I just saw a photo of Cuomo holding a young women's face between his hands and she looks a little shaken.

The women said it was when he asked her if he could kiss her and proceeds to kiss as she pulled away just grazing her cheek.

Prior to asking for a kiss he had put his hand on her lower bare back and she pushed it away.
He told her she seemed aggressive before asking for a kiss.

He is toast and will soon be gone. Hs has a smaller case of Trump entitlement it seems.
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KeithJ
KeithJ: Epstines club and Trump BUT never mind that they had sex with underage girls there THAT'S different RIGHT ?
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MaIvado
MaIvado:
I remember this as a rule when working with women: treat female co-workers, in speech & action, the same as a male co-worker.

I am a layman and I understand this, he has to have known that too.

His behaviour was unacceptable and he should know better. Young women shouldn’t have to go to work and deal with flirtations & harassment especially from someone in a senior position.

Whether he should resign for the cases that to date had been brought forward, personally, I am not fixed. Perhaps fine him a large sum to hurt his pocket and send him to some sexual harassment programme. However, I don’t care if they push him to resign either.

He has things that he should answer for concerning how he handled the Covid situation with the nursing homes.


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MJ59
MJ59: I always treated the sheilas at work the same as the blokes
But bein a train driver, they were all lesbians lol
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MaIvado
MaIvado: Haha
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MJ59
MJ59: Lovely lasses all the same
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
Maybe we issue the same punishment Conservatives did for Trump for all his Transgressions?

Except of course since Cuomo is only a Gov. we make the Idol out of silver instead of Gold?
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KeithJ
KeithJ: trump the golden calf
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MJ59
MJ59: Crump The Tunt
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KeithJ
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KeithJ
KeithJ: oh i found a parody of trump and supporters
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
Does it surprise anyone with a brain that Conservatives do not give a damn about most Americans?

It they aren't in the top 10% they could care less abut them. Is it not apparent when Conservatives fight against a raise in the minimum wage, or say ignorant things like McConnel just did, giving Americans $1400.00 will make them stop working.

Why does anyone think a business that can not pay a living wage should be in business?

Conservatives like to feed their low intellect lemmings the drivel about Socialism, which nearly all do not have a clue what it actually is or who is one.

Yet Conservatives love to use Socialism to reward their donors.

They Socialize Wal Mart with Gov support to their employees so they can have food to eat after Wal Marts starvation wages.

They Socialized 2 Trillion in money to the rich in their tax breaks along with numerous Tax breaks to rich Sports Arena Owners, Private Jet owners etc.

Yet don't pay Americans $15.00 an hour because you know they will quit a couple of their other jobs and live high on the hog.

Stupid ignorant people on the right.
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
For those who have stopped by the david and fractured love connection room, have you noticed the difference in how Conservatives list grievances compared to Liberals"

Conservatives have to dig deep to find anything to post that in their mind is a slam or complaint on how Biden or Liberals are running things.

Conservatives have to say, Biden is using executive action to undo Trumps agenda. Even though that is a good thing for America.

They claim Biden says everyone in Mississippi and Texas are Neanderthals. Even though he is not to far off if he did say that, they are lying. He said relaxing now on what Science is telling us to do in Neanderthal thinking, Also true.

They claim Biden is acting like a Dictator violating people rights telling them what they can and can not do. Of course like he said before he will follow the Science and Science says do what Biden is saying.

They try to broaden their crying to include other Liberals like Cuomo all the while they are worshiping the king of sexual Predators in Trump. A real sexual Predator not a made up one.

Now Liberals wanting to post claims about Conservatives don't have to make things up they just need to repeat what is going on.

McConnel wife under investigation for ethics violations.

Jim Jordan under investigation for ethic violations regarding 3 Million in missing funds.

Trump under numerous investigations.

Trumps family under investigation.

Trumps supporters and donors under investigation numerous Law Suits related to their relationship with Trump.

McConnel says do not give Americans a $1400.00 check they will quit work? WTF LMAO

They are without doubt the most brain damaged Party in History of any Nation on Earth.

Don't give Americans a living wage McConnell says it will cost jobs. His point might carry some grain of truth as most of the businesses that pay poverty wages will cut some jobs if they have to pay a living wage, to preserve their Billion Dollar income.

Not in Countries that value their people, in Denmark, McDonald employees make nearly $22.00 an hour and the poor people in Denmark have to bite the bullet and pay Eighty Cents more for a Big Mac? Scary.

We don't even have to mention Attorney Giuliani, Attorney Powell, Mike Lindell Trumps butt buddy, Attorney Lin Wood's for illegal voting for Trump, etc.

But in righty land of confusion the important stuff is Look at Biden being a Dictator, he is trying to make people wear Masks as Science recommends. Yikes how scary is that?

WTF?

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KeithJ
KeithJ: Not to mention trump owes a Russian a few million and his love for a murderous Putin like he said "Putin ,,He's a good guy ,,He's strong" ,,,most righty's like to shoot themselves in the foot too anyway .
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
Can we get some women to comment on sexual harassment in regards to what you have read about Cuomo's accusations?

At what point does a touch on the shoulder or arm from someone you know a little or a lot, become sexual harassment.

If you are OK with that contact from someone you like is the same touch, harassment from another who you may not know well but he saw the other guy touch you?

Anyone? Not david or fracture, just reading their posts is harassment.


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murrayduan
murrayduan:
I swear Conservatives are the Worlds Terrorist's.

I received an email sent to all Conservatives that reads as follows:

Fellow Conservative,

For almost a year, Ohioans have suffered due to misinformation from Governor Mike DeWine, Amy Acton, and Anthony Fauci, who think they are better at making decisions than moms and dads, small business owners, and faith leaders. Because of them, the freedoms, liberties, and livelihoods of everyday Ohioans have been trampled."

Can anyone imagine that any educated person like Fauci or the Gov. could possibly make better decisions then Conservative Moms, Dad's and faith Leaders?

WTF is happening in Conservative land they are absolutely insane.

We only see a few like david and fractured and write them off as escapees from the Asylum but they are all over the place.

Scary times in America right now.



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KeithJ
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
A bill moving through Kentucky's Senate would make it a crime to insult or taunt a police officer during a riot. "

The Conservative Fascists continue there march to an Autocracy.

If they can just get this Bill passed in a Conservative Gov. next they can move on to any insulting or taunting of Gov. Officials or agenda's

Can anyone say North Korea, China or Putin?

Be afraid for what you wish for Conservatives? Yikes.
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KeithJ
KeithJ: got to be kidding me ,,when things need to get done a republican is reading green eggs and ham ?
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
They are also trying to prevent Voters from voting. Similar to Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

When you are a party of Terrorist's what else can you offer?
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murrayduan
murrayduan:
Conservatives true colors:

In an absolutely stunning statement, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) admitted in a radio interview that he wasn’t frightened by white insurrectionists’ attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 — but said he would have been “concerned” had they been Black.

Johnson accurately predicted that his racist statement to conservative radio host Joe Pags on Thursday would get him “into trouble.”

Trumps fascism has made them more brazen in their racism.

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KeithJ
KeithJ: VERIFY: Are gas prices rising, and is the Biden administration to blame? the answer is no but sore losers wish it was but that is how their brain works .
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