Impeachment won't remove a sitting president? (Page 5)
As far as the Military...
United States - $610 billion.
China - $228 billion.
Saudi Arabia - $69.4 billion.
Russia - $66.3 billion.
India - $63.9 billion.
We were needing huge defense spending to take care of other countries like 28 NATO countries. Notice no NATO countries in the top five. NATO keeps or is supposed to keep Russia at bay. However, Obama allowed Russia to invade Crimea and Ukraine. Military spending includes providing other countries with defensive weapon systems.
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Sir Loin: In NZ we have a left wing liberal govt, welfare state, a relaxed refugee policy, high immigration and have a budget surplus of billions.
WE do not have a high military budget because don't consider it necessary
I read you folks have the least amount of corruption. Congradu-fucking-lations!!!
Your unemployment rate is hovering around 6% which is pretty high for a population of 4,8 million. But your middle class is very small and that should be concerning. There is only an 18% difference between rich and poor.
However, you folks have it just about right.
Your debt is not bad at $56.4 Billion USD or around $11,200 per person USD.
In the US the debt per person is....wait for it.....$187,000 per person USD.
That is one of the reasons the US voted the way it did in 2016 and will again in 2020. It's all about getting the economy pulled back from the brink.
Wait for it...here it comes......
The impeachment has not happened, Officially, it does not happen until it is sent to the Senate,
SOoooooooooooooo. since Nancy has not sent it and since she is not going to send it, the impeachment never happened.
Sir Loin: David, last figures I saw put unemployment at under 2% We have a shortage of workers and are bringing in plane loads from Philippines, China and Australia. Fruit growers are complaining they will have to let crops rot because nobody to pick the fruit. I think you're looking at old stats, population has just topped 5 million and the budget surplus is currently $5 billion, so about +$1000 per person. All achieved under an almost socialist govt. Well Liberal anyway
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Good to hear. I looked at the source of my information and it was from 2015. Lots of times looking for source materials quickly during these types of conversations, I try really hard to only use current information but sometimes it slips by me. I always try to post current information.
Sir Loin: Cheers, easy to get out of date info when the web isn't updated regularly.
Anyway little NZ is doing rather well right now, there's quite a feeling of optimism everywhere you look.
It doesn't hurt having a popular PM either. Nobody refers to her as Ms Adern she's Jacinda to everyone.
chronology: Sir loin. Am not putting a downer on Kiwi life. But can you you suggest any explanation for the rampant methamphetamine abuse in the Islands these days?
Kiwis are spending 2 million dollars a day on the drug. Like you say only 5 million Kiwis live in the islands.
chronology: Beaver I just said am not putting a downer on Kiwi. Have I asked you about the Pokey addiction in Oz?
HPLC18: THE IMPEACHMENT IS A JOKE
The House votes for impeachment based on evidnce they have, evidence of high crims and misdemeanors.
The House cannot impeach on nothing and then send it to the Senate and ask the Senate to look for evidence to support the impeachment.
The House has to go to the Senate and present thier evidence at a trial.
THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE.
We saw no evidence in the House hearings to support a charge.
Trump is allowed to call witnesses.
And as much as Lindsay Graham and Mitch McConnell want to run things, they cannot stop Trump from calling his witnessess.
This will be up to the Chief Justice of the United States of America.
Trump has evidence Biden used a billion dollars of tax payer money to extort Ukraine into firing their Attorney General who was investigating massive corruption in Ukraine, including why the heck the Ukraine State energy company hired Biden's son with no experince in energy, energy deals, geology, or international deals of any kind, to be on the Board of Directors. It takes 20-30 years in a field and being known as a top guy in the field just to get an interview to be on the board of directors of any company.
Investigating what Biden did is the right thing to do.
Everyone who has a brain knows this is corruption.
Trump is not doing it for personal gain.
If Trump wanted personal gain he would have never ran for president in the first place.
Trump lost out big by being presdient.
He missed out of the surging stock market he would have made a billion dollars in.
He missed out on doing the Apprentice he would have made over 100 million at least for a few more seasons.
His properties have taken at hit on revenue.
Investigating Biden is not for Trump's personal gain
It is to stop corrrupt politicians like Biden.
AND THE AMERICAN PEOLE KNOW IT
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Sir Loin: David, are you sure on your figures for drug use?
I have a very wide circle of friends and I'm sure I'd notice if any were using meth.
I do know it is something of a problem and the trade is controlled by gangs such as Hells Angels, Mongrel Mob and Black Power. Aussie biker gangs are trying to muscle in from Australia and USA because of the huge profits to be made, the drug is more expensive here than other countries. $2million wouldn't buy much
I did my share of drugs decades ago
Now my drugs of choice are a blood thinner, an aspirin once a day along with cholesterol med.
Sir Loin: Hahaha, yeah I grew up in the 60s and 70s. We indulged in a few mind altering substances too. These days nothing, not even alcohol.
I'd be very careful of taking cholesterol meds David the side effects can be nasty. Turmeric is a good natural remedy, also reduces inflammation and lowers blood pressure
Actually, since I am now 66-67, I have decided to stop all my drugs, I do not want to scratch my way to the finish line. I have seen so many others do it. I've lost friends from horrible diseases because the medical industry makes lots of money keeping people alive for what? Laying in bed and having someone wipe my feces off of me? Sorry, just not going to happen. My obligations to the family have been fulfilled and now quality of life is important to me. I watched my father, a wonderful musician die a horrible death. I watched my mother scratch her way to the finish line I will not have my kids watch me do the same. If my mother had not spent her entire fortune on her health the last 10 years, she would have spent her last years being taken care of by those that could not care less that you have bed sores and worse. You start taking one drug, then another, and another and another and another and what for, if breath a few extra breaths? When does it end.
I know I sound pretty fucked up however, I am healthy and when my time comes, it comes.
chronology: Sir loin. U.S. DEA have set up a field office in NZ for the Pacific Region.
DEA Officers were surprised at how much Meth Kiwis were putting away. They obtained their estimates from testing sewage water for residual chemical from meth use.
The TV Show 'Breaking Bad' gives a good insight into the Drug business.
theHating: Im still not sure why homies are in denial that trump got impeached. Didn't trump complain to nancy that he doesnt like to be impeached?