Truth aboit the election 2020 (Page 4)

lori100
lori100: mal, why are world leaders talking about a nwo? your opinion?
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lori100
lori100: uh oh .....lookie here ...mandela -------- "The "new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all." Nelson Mandela, in The Philadelphia Inquirer (October 1994) -------------- "The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order." Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs (October 1967)
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MaIvado
MaIvado:
Lori. Have you asked yourself, what do these people directly mean when they make their statement and the context of such statements?

I think your answers start there. Because it sure does not align with the conspiracy of a totalitarian government.

Even without putting in the effort of searching and only using what you have presented:

Is Nelson Mandela [keep in mind all that this man stood and fought for] proposing a totalitarian world government while in the same breath creating a world with democracy [the opposite of a totalitarian government].

See, it doesn’t take much, just think things through logically.
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MaIvado
MaIvado:
Gramma Tinks, they first need to stop talking about the secret publicly so much first.
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lori100
lori100: I haven't read statements from Mandela much and don't know about his beliefs....though it is disturbing that he used the nwo phrase....and dems talk about healing and inclusiveness while ranting about any others that disagree with them and have different ideas.....they talk about cleansing the trump supporters.....nazi type plans
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lori100
lori100: just that they all use the same phrase means a great deal...no accident........and who said when fascism comes to america it will be with a smiley face..........
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MaIvado
MaIvado: You don’t know about Mandela? I suggest you look into that immediately.

Is it disturbing if it does not mean what you take it to mean?

Like I said, first look into context and what the individual meant.
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lori100
lori100: here it is---- “When fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jack-boots. It will be Nike sneakers and Smiley shirts...”

― George Carlin
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MaIvado
MaIvado:
So have we established that it is clear that Mandela is not calling for a totalitarian government when in that same statement he calls for democracy?

And that the mention of NWO clearly is not referring to the conspiracy?

I want us to establish this before jumping into something else.
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lori100
lori100: not sure....why did he use the same phrase.?......and because someone talks of democracy doesn't mean they value freedoms and other voices
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MaIvado
MaIvado:
Mandela does not value freedoms and other voices?

Lori. It is very obvious that when the term is used that it does not refer to a Totalitarian government. The term carries a lot more meaning, mainly on the world working together to overcome difficulties.

Here’s what to do. Take a moment, look into what Mandela fought for. Also, look into the phrase NWO that does not refer to the conspiracy theory. Specially when used by the US Democrats.

Don’t select a conspiracy site in this moment.
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lori100
lori100: democrats are acting like fascists now, banning other voices and opinions, saying repubs need 're education' .........not inclusive and tolerant, but an oppressive regime.....Mandela may say what people want to hear as a con like the dems
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MaIvado
MaIvado: So in your mind Mandela’s entire fight for freedom throughout his life was a con?

Listen, Lori. You are fixed with what you wish to believe even when shown simple reasoning. Let me leave you to that. Don’t ask me questions when you don’t want answers.

Enjoy your Sunday.
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lori100
lori100: never said that...you mean when I don't accept your answers...I asked for your opinion....not your beliefs to become mine...I see...when you say you want to be asked, you really want someone to say yes, you're right....hmm
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natureguy8899
natureguy8899: I see we have gotten a little off topic, 2020 election fraud, watch this:
https://m.beforeitsnews.com/u-s-politics/2021/02/mypillows-mike-lindel-releases-long-promised-documentary-of-2020-voter-fraud-watch-it-here-video-2581770.html
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metsfan3921
metsfan3921: Listen!!!! All that crap about a stolen election is BS. You know it, I know it, Trump knows it. Over and over again Guliani and Trumps other idiot lawyers had chances to prove there case in front of numerous judges and they didn't prove a thing. You know why because there was nothing to prove. The election was fair. Wake up you know it was. I find it funny it was a fraud only in states Trump lost, wonder why that is. You know why. When Trump was leading early he never mentioned fraud once. It was until theystarted counting mail in ballots and his lead changed that all of a sudden it's fraud. Come on WAKE UP!!! In all the state's he is complaining about Republicans won down balloy, but there wasn't fraud THERE RIGHT. Only against Trump. Wake up people Trump is the only fraud and he brainwashed you all. Look at other dictators of the world. They repeat over and over propaganda and lies until it's believed. Just like Trump. Wake up or ask help. You are all delusional!!!
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natureguy8899
natureguy8899: Did you watch Mike Lindell’s video: https://m.beforeitsnews.com/u-s-politics/2021/02/mypillows-mike-lindel-releases-long-promised-documentary-of-2020-voter-fraud-watch-it-here-video-2581770.html
Plus I have seen video footage of workers pulling out bags of ballots from under a table after hours and begin counting them. Trump was winning by a landslide by the time the polls closed and then during the night everything changes and Biden wins, I don’t think so. Even looking at the data of when the count was going on, there were two graphs one for Trump and one for Biden. There were times where Trumps graph line went negative, that is impossible when you are counting something, only two possibilities up or flat but never down.
Of course it was fraud in the states that Trump lost. Those states did the vote changing, what do you expect?
And if you look at Lindell’s video you find that the interference came mostly from China. You want foreign countries controlling our government? Wake up.
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metsfan3921
metsfan3921: First off stop it!!! you never saw any one taking ballots out after hours. let's say for argument sake your telling the truth. I know you are not gonna sit there and say you want foreign countries controlling our government. After all the shit Trump was involved in with Russia in 2016. So please stop with your nonsense. If there was such wide spread fraud like you and the rest of the conspiracy morons say. How come not 1judge agreed with them . I mean come on. You know your full of shit. Please seek help. Everything coming out of your mouth is bullshit. There are no graphs of Trump negative. You idiots will not stop. Give it up already. I can't keep talking with you people. You live in fantasy island. Wake up moron
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Rep's talk about fascism with the Dems,, but it wasn't Dems attacking the Capital trying to overthrow the government, marching with all the lies of the Qanon, the proud boys etc.. all listening to the latest tweets from the president...
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arrei3
arrei3: I am amazed at the large number of people that want to follow that insane human, and will believe whatever comes out of his mouth. If Trump told his supporters the sky was green they would believe him.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: I compare it to the Jim Jones thing,, he lead his loyal followers down to Giana, and they were willing to drink the poison Koolaid on his orders.
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btrickinya03
btrickinya03: Politics is and has been corrupt for god knows how long.....but trump is on another level of corrupt obviously he brain washed half the population into believing anyone who sees it different than him is the enemy. Fuck him america needs to wake up and realize if we don't get it together and work as one we are all fucked. There is no get rid of them and we will thrive.....nope that's all narcisstic ego thinking and its wrong....
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