Comparing Roe v. Wade to Alabama's heart beat abortion law (Page 63)

kittybobo34
kittybobo34: And yet the rules about abortion weren't even there until the 20th century, prior to that it was up to the mother. So we can survive as a free nation, and the cause of freedom applies to the mother not a fetus. No one is pro abortion, but there has to be some leeway for the rights of the mother.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
If the Declaration of Independence states our creed, there can be no right to abortion, since it means denying the most fundamental right of all to the unborn child, the right to life.
Alan Keyes
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Where is the passion and support for the 'born children'?
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
“...don't kid yourself. Keep the baby - I have no other advice for you. Children are the best thing in the world.”


Elvira Baryakina


“We must learn that when people devalue any one Life, they devalue all Life.”


Donald L. Hicks
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chronology
chronology: Blackie, seriously. You sound like a complete and utter whack job on this subject.

Very early abortion seems reasonable. But when you start shivering and twitching and crying and wiping away the tears from your face and calling a woman a murderer for having a abortion you really bring your mental health into question.

And your wild emotional outbursts at women who have abortion can be considered as mental abuse of these women. The United States Government has made more efforts to clarify the legal status of abortion than any other government on earth. Lawmakers have concluded there is no moral issues with abortion committed as early as possible. Why you want to torment women with your emotional rhetoric who can guess.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Women are way capable of making decisions.

Leave them to themselves.

As men we can take on more responsibility over our sperms and who we have sex with. Too much work? Much easier to fck around and impregnate and enforce something than do the actual work.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
Seriously Chrono. Projecting your own emotional issues unto me or my post is a sad and pathetic cry for help. I don't care about your mental state, nor does it serve any purpose to engage in trading insults or any type of personal argument " he said she said "

By the way, I say very little in here. I generally post what others have to say.

The issue n' topic here is the worldwide GENOCIDE of the innocent.

“There was a time when our enemies wore white hoods and drove old pickups. But today, they wear white lab coats and drive Jaguars. For our (black) community, the real weapon of mass destruction is the suction machine at the local Planned Parenthood.”

Dr. Johnny Hunter


“Use your imagination to see what abortion really is! Fight against the kind of social stupor that gripped Nazi Germany – the feeling that the problem is so huge and so horrendous and so out of our control that I just can’t be wrong to let it be. Use your imagination to see and feel what is really happening behind those sterile clinic doors. If you could see each little handiwork of God and what it looks like when it is being crushed or poisoned or starved, you would say, this can’t be happening. Civilized people do not do this! The children will not be saved and God’s work will not be reverenced without an act of sustained sympathetic imagination. Otherwise, it is out of sight out of mind – just like Auschwitz. It just couldn’t be happening and so we act as if it isn’t.”

John Piper

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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
So no thoughts on advocating men should keep it wrapped up and take on the responsibility of preventing vs enforcing?

Blackshoes, one more question, why do you have so many young girls added to your friends’ list?
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
LOL the better question would be, why do you only have ten friends Commandante
Whenever someone has nowhere to go within any discussion and has nothing worthwhile to say, they almost always invent personal attacks and accusations. Which clearly shows a lack of intelligence

By the way, everyone is younger than I


Blackshoes 3804 Friends

“I am increasingly suspicious that shadow language is used because many political leaders either don’t support abortion and are afraid to say so or because they want to pretend that a moral evil is somehow a moral good.”

Roger Mahoney


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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
I left you with two questions and you chose the latter. And for the second time pretended not to see the first. Says a lot to me.

Well, if you are presenting yourself as someone with the moral high ground, anyone would be curious for you to answer on why you seek out so many young girls on a chatsite. I am not lying here.

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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
I actually hold a traditional view on abortion that on a personal level, I will like my offspring to be birthed. That being said, I don’t agree in taking that to legislation and enforcing it on women. Women have that decision to make and they are sensible.

Seeing that pregnancy is preventable. The approach should be males/females who are against abortion should prevent their pregnancy in lieu of using force or jailing other women. As a man, you should instead focus on advocating men be more responsible with their bodies vs extending control on the women.

Prevent the birth, wrap the peepee. Everyone wins.

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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: I saw your first question. I owe you no explanation nor do I owe you any answers.

I advocate for life and I reject an abhorrent Genocide.

Interesting, that you consider the hatred of genocide a moral high ground
What would you consider the low ground


A jailed murderers wouldn't take too kindly if you were to kill their children.
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chronology
chronology: Blackie your argument is complete bunkum. You are taking your religious views and forcing them onto women. Why you think they will think you have any valid ideas I don't know. Most women think religion is simply a tool to manipulate suckers with.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Chrono , So wrong it is not even worth explaining it to you. However, because I have a great deal of respect for you. I will. Yes. all governments if not most, take their laws from the Mosaic code and Mosaic laws long ago. However, they use them more of a outline that a percept.

The fact that the Killing of the innocent has always been abhorrent by almost every society throughout history no matter what religion or ideology they hold too.


“Abortion in the United States is fundamentally racist. Planned Parenthood was founded by a KKK supporting, Hitler admiring Eugenicist who started the “Negro Project” to curtail the black birth rate. Today around 75% of abortion clinics are in minority neighborhoods and black women account for a hugely disproportionate number of abortions.”

Debi Vandenboom,

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chronology
chronology: We will never agree on this blackie. But forcing a woman to have a baby seems like the most outrageous violation of women's Rights imaginable.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
No, I will never agree with genocide! No one has ever forced a man or woman to have their child, in over 6000 years of the human race. It's called parenthood which is a consequence of sexual intercourse!

Men and Women have always had the right to kill whomever they wish.
There are always consequences for our actions whether here now or later we will always pay for whatever we do!


“The baby, though enclosed in the womb of its mother, is already a human being and it is a monstrous crime to rob it of the life which it has not yet begun to enjoy. If it seems more horrible to kill a man in his own house than in a field, because a man’s house is his place of most secure refuge, it ought surely to be deemed more atrocious to destroy a baby in the womb before it has come to light.”

John Calvin
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Well, you are out here demanding something of women, yet you don't like being under scrutiny.

So you are advocating the incarceration of women or the death penalty for women who have an abortion, Blackshoes? I just want to know which one is it, mass imprisonment of women or the mass 'genocide' of women?

Seeing that your position is that as men we have no responsibility in contributing to the impregnation of a woman. You can perhaps answer the above question, if you're not too shy for it.

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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
I never said a thing, other than the genocide must stop! Makeup as many false accusations and judgments as you want. The truth is the worldwide killing of babies is insanity to the highest level!


Very typical of a fool to make up a false accusation when they cannot support their opinions, lies, and presuppositional worldview.

“The abortion industry kills as many Black people every four days as the Klan killed in 150 years.”


John Piper
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
You are the one stating that these women who committed abortions, have engaged in a genocidal act. Genocide is a punishable act.

Now, are you advocating that the punishment for these genocidal acts be the death penalty or incarceration? (Both used as a penalty for genocide)

Note again that you are the one who presented the accusation that these women are committing a genocide. So proceed.

Is it that you accept that it is foolish to state that abortion is genocide or you will clarify which penalty you prefer for women.
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
Simplified version for you:

To classify abortion as genocide, or as homicide mean that it will be punishable as such.

What punishment are you advocating for women, (a) incarceration, (b) death penalty.

Proceed:

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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
You lie just as all liars do that holds not to the truth of love, justice, and honor.
At least most fools are not as twisted as you.

I never said a thing, other than the genocide must stop! Makeup as many false accusations and judgments as you want. The truth is the worldwide killing of babies is insanity to the highest level!

No matter, time is not on anyone's side.

“Let’s not pretend that abortion isn’t about the mass slaughter of innocents.”

Michael Aston
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WHlSKY
WHlSKY:
You stated that abortion is classified as genocide. You agree that women are the ones who carry out abortion and thus guilty of genocide. The penalty of genocide is incarceration or the death penalty.

There are many women who are incarcerated due to abortion laws worldwide. It has even been argued that the move presented in the new bill will make it possible for the death penalty.

You are so ignorant that you don't realise that to classify abortion as a genocide or as assault/ homicide will result in it having the same level of punishment.

Time to face reality, Blackshoes, you are calling for the incarceration and death of many many women. I wonder how sara0014 and the other young women you've befriended on this site will feel knowing that you call for the death of so many women? Why do you hate women, Blackshoes?
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: The texas bill financially targets the doctors, not the women. It allows men or those with legal standing to sue the doctors. Since men are part baby makers with women it seems reasonable that they have an interest to protect, their progeny
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
Again comandante, you lie because as all liars you do not hold to the truth of love, justice, and honor.
Because you cannot accept the responsibility of your presuppositional worldview, actions, and deeds. You need to pervert, twist, and make false accusations.

I never said a thing, other than the genocide must stop! Makeup as many false accusations and judgments as you want. The truth is the worldwide killing of babies is insanity and evil to the highest level!


“Abortion and racism are both symptoms of a fundamental human error. The error is thinking that when someone stands in the way of our wants, we can justify getting that person out of our lives.”

Alveda King

Alveda King is an American Activist and Author, and niece of Martin Luther King, Jr.
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StrayaMate
StrayaMate: Blackie Lovejoy lol



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