Trump/Russia- ABC News In-depth

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The US President and his connections to Russia.

Trump/Russia: Follow the money.

In part one of this three-part series, Four Corners follows the money trail from New York to Moscow, tracking the ties between Donald Trump, his business empire and Russia.



Trump/Russia: Secrets, spies and useful idiots.

In part two of this three-part series, Four Corners speaks to key protagonists at the center of the unfolding drama over members of Donald Trump’s team accused of being compromised by Russia.



Trump/Russia: Moscow rules

Four Corners investigates Russia’s endgame and the motivation behind its extraordinary interference in the US Presidential elections.

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The giant midget
The giant midget: Anything on Biden ?
Whatever happened to those news showing Biden kissing / hugging / caressing young children .
Anything on Biden about that rape / sexual assault with some women ?
Anything on that back door business deal with a seat on board of directors ?
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Gramma Tinks 
Gramma Tinks:

Joe Biden is an affectionate man. Get over it.

If Joe Biden isn’t qualified to be president of the United States then literally no one is. No, I’m not talking about his politics. While he looks like a right-winger compared to many of his Democratic brethren running, the policies he supports are still too liberal for me. I’m talking about having the character and experience to be qualified to hold the office. He has both.

As for experience, 36 years in the U.S. Senate from Delaware and eight years as vice president. Yup, qualified on that avenue. Let’s move ahead to the qualification that has only in the past week come in to question: Does he have the character?

By my count, eight women have come forward recently to claim Biden had at some point made them feel “uncomfortable.” He’s had to release apologetic statements and there are those on both sides of the aisle claiming he is now unqualified to seek the highest office in the land and should abandon any plans to do so.

We all know Joe Biden is a touchy feely kinda guy. There have been memes and fodder for years of his hugs of both men and women and close physical proximity to a lot of people including his former boss, Barack Obama. Not, however, until 2019, has it been anything more than having some fun with the reality that Biden is an affectionate man.

The uproar started with former Democratic nominee for lieutenant governor of Nevada, Lucy Flores. She claimed in 2014, the then vice president went to an event to support her candidacy and smelled her hair and kissed the back of her head. She later went on to note, “For the record, I don’t believe that it was a bad intention. I’m not in any way suggesting that I felt sexually assaulted or sexually harassed. I felt invaded. I felt there was a violation of my personal space.” A violation of personal space? Ever ride a New York subway? If violating personal space is a disqualifier to run for office than no one on any subway I’ve ridden on is qualified and neither am I.

Another woman said she met Biden three years ago at the Oscars after a performance he had introduced. She had stood with 50 other sexual assault survivors during a performance and met him after the ceremony and told him the story of a woman who had just days before taken her own life after a sexual assault. He held her hands and put his head to her forehead to comfort her and now she notes it “violated her personal space” and made her feel “uncomfortable.” At the time, the media reported it as a “powerful” moment. But, a kind, older gentleman tenderly comforting a woman is so 2016.

Other accusations include that he hugged a woman at an event “just a little bit too long”; that he squeezed a Democratic staffer’s shoulders, complimented her smile and held her “for a beat too long”; and that he called one young woman a “pretty girl” – she was shocked.

I don’t blame the women, particularly the young ones. We live in a world where we are telling women constantly they are victims by nature and that men – all men – are on the hunt for them. Any physical interaction within a personal space is to be considered not only inappropriate but some sort of offense. That simply isn’t true. People are supposed to interact physically and otherwise – it’s human nature. We women are not all victims-to-be and all men are not assailants-in-waiting. This “Biden situation” is an example of how that teaching has done and continues to do great damage to our abilities to personally interact with each other.

When I’m at an event, normally political, I run into men all the time I may not have seen in a while and we greet with a hug and sometimes a kiss on the cheek. That’s always been a proper greeting not an inappropriate one. If I were a man I’d be afraid to do that to anyone now. I married into a Greek family, they all kiss each other. Twice, both cheeks! Men and women and any combination thereof and I’ve been kissed many times by people at the very first meeting. This is cultural, and so is Biden’s “behavior.” None of it should make someone feel uncomfortable and even if it does, does one’s discomfort of perfectly appropriate behavior mean everyone else has to change. Topless day at Hampton Beach makes me feel uncomfortable. Should it therefore not be allowed? Those SPCA ads constantly on TV make me super uncomfortable. Take it off the air?


Making someone feel uncomfortable isn’t a benchmark for doing something wrong, it’s just life.

Biden is an affectionate man. The fact that with all he has overcome in life he is still able to find and display so much love and kindness should be commended not condemned. He lost his first wife and baby in an accident. He lost his adult son not long ago to cancer. Yet, rather than be bitter, he maintains a tenderness. Maybe with what he has gone through, he, more than most, knows the importance of these attributes – love, kindness and tenderness. Yet, suddenly, after 40 years of a stellar record of public service and three previous presidential runs, he is now unqualified? This isn’t a matter of being more “woke” in 2019, it’s a matter of simply being wrong about the character of a man.

Sorry, Joe, if you run, you won’t get my vote for President, our politics simply disagree too much. If there’s ever a poll out there for the portrait of a “good man”, however, you’ll get my vote.

By Alicia Preston
Posted Apr 7, 2019

https://www.fosters.com/news/20190407/joe-biden-is-affectionate-man-get-over-it
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The giant midget: If the Democratic Party could only come up with a white dude that's half brain dead to go against Trump
God save America
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Gramma Tinks 
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The fact that we are being subjected to a choice between the incompetent and the slightly less incompetent is the best evidence yet that we are living in the decline of a once-great nation.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Gramma Tinks 
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I thought Four Corners did an excellent job with this investigative 3 part series. Not that anyone will actually watch it, but I thought it was well done.
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Fractured fairy tale: How Do you know Alexander Donwer isn"t a Tool of the CIA , Oh Novach is Controlled by the Kremin , (and others that arn"t Taking supposed Derect orders From Putin) See that and others
Theres no Proof of Nothing , Its all hear Say , how Does any one know People in the Security Establishment Dont leak Stuff to Wickyleaks , Cos they Dont like Whats Going On , Like Snowden did .
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Gramma Tinks 
Gramma Tinks:

Clearly, you didn't watch the video series. Those people are not in it.
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Fractured fairy tale: Ive seen it before , Bloody propagnda from the ABC , Neo liberialism Has Failed Untill they come to Terms with that , And Stop blaming every one else , Nothing will change
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Gramma Tinks 
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I haven't blamed anyone.

Though if I were to blame someone, it would be the American people themselves. Trump isn't the problem, Trump is the result.
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Fractured fairy tale: I fail To See how the Supposed Best Techknology In the History of the World , Is supposedly So Easily Manipulated , What They live in a Bubble what The CIA and NATO don't interfer in other Countries Elections , No Too Much Blame :deeadhorse: Spies
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Gramma Tinks 
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While the days of its worst behavior are long behind it, the United States does have a well-documented history of interfering and sometimes interrupting the workings of democracies elsewhere. It has occupied and intervened militarily in a whole swath of countries in the Caribbean and Latin America and fomented coups against democratically elected populists.

The most infamous episodes include the ousting of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953 — whose government was replaced by an authoritarian monarchy favorable to Washington — the removal and assassination of Congolese leader Patrice Lumumba in 1961, and the violent toppling of socialist Chilean President Salvador Allende, whose government was swept aside in 1973 by a military coup led by the ruthless Gen. Augusto Pinochet.

Full Article can be found here;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/13/the-long-history-of-the-u-s-interfering-with-elections-elsewhere/
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Fractured fairy tale: Thanks But I don"t need Arthickles written By some one , Its Just What Countries do, They all do it Show me the Proof
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Gramma Tinks 
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Proof of what?
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Gramma Tinks 
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If you already know that they all do it and I have agreed...what exactly would you like me to prove
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Fractured fairy tale: That Biden says African American people of color what ever there Called , Wake up in America every day fearing for there lives that there going to be Killed during day to day Activites ,
Where Is the Proof of that , There Is nothing to back that up that its remotely True , its just making Stuff Up
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Gramma Tinks 
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I can't comment on that, I don't know any black people. I have no idea how they feel.
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Fractured fairy tale: That Russian Fighter Jets are Snooping In the windows of the other Plane I wonder what the view is from there kitchen windows
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Gramma Tinks 
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We are always intercepting Russian jets off the coast of Alaska. The United States and Russia have a long history of staring matches in the Alaskan ADIZ (air defense identification zone).
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Fractured fairy tale: Oh prove some thing, what proof of what, That trump is a russian Asset doing the bidding of Russian oil garks , yeah thats the problem the Oil garks have taken over every where
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Gramma Tinks 
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Whether Trump is a Russia asset or not is not for me to prove or disprove.

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Several nations still use oligarchy in their governments, including:

Russia
China
Saudi Arabia
Iran
Turkey
South Africa
North Korea
Venezuela
Ukraine
Zimbabwe
United States

One of the most well-known oligarchies is Russia. Russia has been ruled by an oligarchy wince the 1400s. Those who are wealthy in Russia have to maintain contacts within the government, or the will lose their power. The U.S. Treasury released a list of Russian oligarchs, naming 200 total, including Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and Roman Abramovich, owner of the Chelsea Football Club and the Millhouse investment company.

Whether or not the United States is considered an oligarchy is split. Americans do enjoy many features of a democratic government, such as elections and freedom of speech; however, it is believed that powerful corporations and affluent individuals have a particularly larger influence on policy making than ordinary citizens. While the United States is a democracy, many economists and researchers believe that it is one or is at least heading in the direction of one.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oligarchy-countries
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Fractured fairy tale: Well I donno I thought The ABC thingy was supposed to be Proof , I'm Not saying you have to prove Anything , I would like Our Western Governments To Prove What Ever accusations they make For once instead of hear Say
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Gramma Tinks 
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I didn't post it for proof. I posted it because I thought it was well done and informative. I didn't find it to be propaganda.

I'm not sure why you felt it was propaganda. I'm not sure why an Australian investigative team would post propaganda.

I specifically watched it, because it wasn't a documentary done by Americans.
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