The Robots are coming (Page 61)

Fractured fairy tale
Fractured fairy tale: Well I suppse there was 30 odd years between WW1 and WW2 , So Its been about 70 years since WW2 , So If thats any thing to go by , Better Spend your Lottto winnings while you can
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Not having any Lotto winnings to spend, I'm not sure what stake I've got in the future.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Unfortunately, without any arms control agreements, all sides are now building tactical nukes that they intend to use in a conventional way. Both Russia and the USA have developed hypersonic missiles that can go anywhere in the world in a matter of minutes.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: One starts to wonder if there'll be a twenty-second century.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: ghost,, it is looking rather bleak
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Fractured fairy tale
Fractured fairy tale: Well I think we Can Update the title , The Robots are Here
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Here they may be, but are they scary or cuddly?
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chronology
chronology: Ghost, the real growth area at the moment is with Telepresence Robots. These are remotely operated machines that can do everything from clean operating theatres, to carry medicines around hospitals, to inspect crops on farms.
They are not all in replacing people, just cutting down on the numbers of people needed for workplaces. We are no where near the Movie 'Serugates' yet, but we are slowly getting there.
Even mobile phone apps now are available for people to controle robots remotely. Parents on the other side of the world can play with their kids using a robot dog at home, and their cell phone wherever they are.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: When a machine comes along that can resurrect the dead, what will it be called?
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ghostgeek: For any given medical problem, it seems, there’s a research team trying to use stem cells to find a solution. In clinical trials to treat everything from diabetes to macular degeneration to ALS, researchers are injecting the cells in efforts to cure patients.

But in one study expected to launch later this year, scientists hope to use stem cells in a new, highly controversial way — to reverse death.

The idea of the trial, run by Philadelphia-based Bioquark, is to inject stem cells into the spinal cords of people who have been declared clinically brain-dead. The subjects will also receive an injected protein blend, electrical nerve stimulation, and laser therapy directed at the brain.

[ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/resurrected-a-controversial-trial-to-bring-the-dead-back-to-life/ ]
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chronology
chronology: Depends what you mean by resurrection ghost.
If you mean can clones of a person be made, yes. But at the moment that is illegal.

There are many people who claim to have died and come back to life after seeing the afterlife world. Trouble is they all describe completely different places from other people.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: In 2011, 46-year-old woman Kelly Dwyer fell into a frozen pond while hiking alone in New Hampshire. Dwyer's heart stopped before the ambulance could reach her and her body temperature plummeted to near 60 degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius), Popular Science reported. Dwyer had been dead for 5 hours when doctors switched off life support, and her heart spontaneously started again. After spending two weeks recovering in the hospital, Dwyer returned home alive and with no brain damage. She wasn't a zombie, but in a sense, she had come back from the dead.

[ https://www.livescience.com/65542-zombies-real-resurrection-experiments.html ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Enough people have spontaneously come back to life several minutes after cardiac arrest that the instance has its own name: The Lazarus phenomenon. Not all of the people who experience the Lazarus phenomenon regain full neurological function or remain living for much longer, but a 2007 review estimated that about 35% of Lazarus phenomenon patients return to a normal, healthy life.

[ https://www.livescience.com/65542-zombies-real-resurrection-experiments.html ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: These days, figuring out the difference between life and death has got more problematic. For starters, there is no globally agreed definition of death, which means you can be pronounced dead in one country yet wouldn’t be in another. Then there is the recent discovery that death doesn’t happen in an instant, but over weeks. Add to that the inevitable storm generated by experiments revealing that brains can be resuscitated hours after death. No wonder scientists, philosophers and even the Vatican are asking how we should decide when dead really is dead.

[ https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24432570-300-why-the-line-between-life-and-death-is-now-more-blurred-than-ever/ ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: As we stuff and mount the dead in museum hallways, scientists are working to stop the carnage. One of our most powerful tools to fight biological obliteration is CRISPR, a burgeoning gene-editing technology that acts like a molecular blade, slicing DNA apart and allowing us to add and subtract genes at will.

It's being used to combat invasive species, destroy antibiotic-resistance bacteria and, controversially, edit the genes of human embryos. In fact, it's so exceptional at editing DNA that "de-extinction," the process of bringing extinct species back from the dead, is on the table.

Science has already unraveled the DNA code of long-dead species such as the woolly mammoth, the passenger pigeon and Australia's iconic Tasmanian tiger -- and now, pioneering researchers are using CRISPR to remake modern-day descendants in the image of their ancient counterparts. Could we transform an Asian elephant into a woolly mammoth? We are marching toward that reality.

[ https://www.cnet.com/features/using-crispr-to-resurrect-the-dead/ ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Around 15 minutes after a mammal’s brain is cut off from oxygen, the organ is supposed to die. ...

But a stunning new finding published Wednesday in the journal Nature turns that conventional wisdom around.

In a paper that reads a bit like an adaptation of Mary Shelley, researchers at Yale University describe how they were able to partially revive disembodied pigs’ brains several hours after the pigs’ death.

First, the researchers took 32 brains from pigs slaughtered for food and waited four hours. Then they hooked them up for six hours to a system called BrainEx, which pumped those brains full of oxygen, nutrients, and protective chemicals.

At the end of the 10 hours, the scientists found that the tissue of the pig brains was largely intact, compared to controls. Individual brain cells were up and running, performing their basic duties of taking up oxygen and producing carbon dioxide.

To be clear: The neurons in these brains were not communicating, so there was no consciousness. But the cells were alive — and that alone is a very big discovery.

[ https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/4/17/18410611/pig-brain-nature-study-revive-cell-death-brainex ]
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ghostgeek: Abstract. Death seems to be a permanent event, but there is no actual proof of its irreversibility. Here we list all known ways to resurrect the dead that do not contradict our current scientific understanding of the world. While no method is currently possible, many of those listed here may become feasible with future technological development, and it may even be possible to act now to increase their probability. The most well-known such approach to technological resurrection is cryonics. Another method is indirect mind uploading, or digital immortality, namely the preservation of data about a person to allow for future reconstruction by powerful AI. More speculative ways to immortality include combinations of future superintelligence on a galactic scale, which could use simulation to resurrect all possible people,and new physical laws, which may include time-travel or obtaining information from the past. Acausal trade with parallel worlds could help combine random resurrection and reconstruction based on known data without loss of share of worlds where I exist (known as existence measure). Quantum immortality could help to increase the probability of success for cryonics and digital immortality. There are many possible approaches to technological resurrection and thus if large-scale future technological development occurs, some form of resurrection is inevitable.

[ https://philpapers.org/archive/TURCOA-3.pdf ]
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Fractured fairy tale
Fractured fairy tale: I reckon AI is the problem Since the 70"s when they had big Computer simulation of whats going to happen to the earth in the Future. There been relying on Computer simulations more and more . Everything from climate change to pandemics to Rbo dept . What happens when AI is in control of governments. You can't argue with a Computer. There far smarter than people and never wrong apprently
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chronology
chronology: Ghost, Curiously many people confuse the constant existence of energy with human consciousness. They say after death the energy in people just moves on it does not end. Well maybe. But the energy is not personality, the personality is contained in the brains electrical network, if the brain dies the personality is gone. The energy just passes away. If someone is cremated it just becomes heat radiation. The energy is permanently locked into a cryogenic preserved body. It stays there until the corpse is thawed out and disposed of.

There is the mystical side of speculation. All kinds of religious products and services are sold every day. But there is zero proof to support any of them.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: At the moment computers are dumb but very, very quick at doing computation. It's when they start to be smart, and even quicker at computation, that we humans will be finished.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I'm writing a story, a book actually, where people explode and become energy clouds that resolve themselves into distinct, but spatially limited, worlds. Of course, nothing lasts and the clouds dissipate over time.
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chronology
chronology: Really ghost Old chap, you have had too much cider.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Yep, I've been on it tonight. Tomorrow, fingers crossed, I'll be back at work bashing out another chapter.
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TheCovenant
TheCovenant: Ghost : Soon, Quantum computers will be so efficient that they will tell us with common molecular analysis software how to make very cheap and efficient nuclear bombs. statistics and the history of technology tell us this is inevitable.This will be the beginning of the end for us. Maybe this is for the gun control forum? on a happier note My schadenfreude says those Chinese are great biochemists. my guess is that we will cure aids and the common cold before we cure covid 19. I put 5 cents on a cure 15 years from now, any takers? any other guesses.
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Fractured fairy tale
Fractured fairy tale: I Was Hoping the book was about Hive brains Where every one walks around With Lava lamp type Iv Trolly Brains Hooked up to there heads With Wires and Sockets that Your got to Plug Into The Master Hive Every month for Updates , Soppse thats a Bit 1950"s There got Wfi Now
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