Was 9/11 engineered? By who?

Farouquddeen Mumtaz:

lori100: yes, some in the govt for sure...Cheney likely,CIA, others...

I K R: I was having a big clear out the other week n I found a newspaper from the day after, I must of saved it.... one of the headlines read "Loons have day of celebration" n it showed pictures of the loons celebrating in the streets...I found that really strange....to be so overjoyed that you take to the street cheering and celebrating because people you never knew or met had been killed in that way......that was not a normal healthy reaction......Id never allow anyone to bother me that much that id do that.....its not a good way to be

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: That's a coincidence. Let me clarify.

Muslims have their holy celebrations (basically 2 Eids they call it) defined based on the moon as opposed to the sun.

The consequence of using a moon-based system is that the celebrations happen in various times of the year (summer, winter, etc), and this keeps shifting/rotating every time.

What happened this time is that, simply because of the way the moon-dating system works, one of the Eids of 2016 (called Eid Al-Adha) happened to fall on the 9/11 of the sun-based dating system.

That's all. Here is one source talking about that:

https://www.rt.com/viral/357809-muslims-eid-september-11/

Checkout these quotes (I think from Twitter):

``Before bigots tell u otherwise: Muslim holiday Eid Al Adha may fall on 9/11 this yr. It's based on lunar calendar-Its NOT celebrating 9/11''

And:

``If you see a lot of muslims looking happy and celebrating this September. We are celebrating Eid Holidays not 9/11''

I K R: Bull shit sorry but really .....bull shit.....ts more like it was planned to happen on that date to mark the end of eid...You seem to think we dont have Muslims living here??.....Every year during the month of Jihad the number of terror attacks increase.....Every year people are sacrificed to allah n we're supposed to tolerate that bullshit for the purpose of you being allowed to carry on with this retarded so called religion...lets not forget the Americans in Benghazi also killed on 9/11....the battle of Vienna took place 12/11....what about all the animals that are slaughtered at the end of eid its f*kin gross and dirty ...blood dripping in the streets......they are all sacrifices to allah

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: So you think that we are so happy for 9/11 (the inside job by the Pentagon), which brought us nothing but the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq (which lead to ISIS and the destruction of Syria), so happy, that we have engineered the lunar (moon-based dating system) in a way that it falls right on 9/11?

Since you are there, could you please also predict why did we only do it for the 9/11 of 2016? Why didn't we do it for the 9/11 of the past years?

I mean, by your claim, we love 9/11, and you imply that we little sneaky bastards, so I guess we should've tempered the lunar calendar in such a way that 9/11 would fall in Muslim celebrations more often than just in 2016, right?

Any idea why it happened for just 2016? Perhaps we have some sort of Mohammadan love ascended from the skies only in 2016 that awakened our evil blood thirsty hearts? And thus our sneaky behaviour that only appeared in 2016?

As for slaughtering animals, humans eat beef (not just Muslims), and as far as I know there is no Tree of Beef. Therefore, we gotta slaughter animals to get beef. Yes we slaughter animals to eat their beef, and yes we do it multiple times, primarily in our annual special religious festivals so that we make food to feed the poor and our friends.

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: But wait, did you say blood dripping in streets? Do they do that in UK?

Holy shit that's nasty!

I K R: heres a list of all the islamic crusades since the time islam was founded

http://www.provethebible.net/T2-Hist/Islam-10-jihad-1300.htm

http://www.provethebible.net/T2-Hist/Islam-11-jihad-100.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2016

https://www.yahoo.com/news/uae-lists-over-80-muslim-terrorist-groups-202236607.html?ref=gs

R U seriously blaming all those groups on us ....dont be ridiculous
I actually do blame the US government for 9/11 they should never of allowed that to happen
As for the blood in the streets , yeah i made that up, hence why you didnt bother giving me a long ass denial about it
But halal meat they slit the throat of animals and dangle them upside down n leave them to bleed to death , its cruel and unecessary

I K R: Islam was being violent long before America ever existed

lori100:

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: i k r - I don't know about Islamic wars after Mohammed's death. If your sites are true that they were offensive wars, then I am against them.

As for the wars during Mohammed's life, I think they were defensive, including the Mecca war: it was to return back to a home that they were kicked away from. Recall that Mohammed and his Muslim followers of Mecca were kicked out and had their houses and monies stolen. So it was defensive.

That is the Islam that I believe in. You may think that my version of Islam is wrong, and that the ISIS version of Islam is right, but this is another problem. For all practical purposes, the Islam that I believe in, and the multi-billion Muslims, is one that is not systematically biased to increase population's tendency in committing violence.

As for blood on streets, I thought you were honest about it, cause you're a representative of the fairer sex (your kind usually is honest as per my experience), so I honestly believed you. But I'm glad that you've clarified that. Regardless whether that is real or not, it is indeed a nasty thing.

As for Halal meat, I think it is a good idea to let the blood drip out so that you don't end up eating blood. Personally I like my meet to be free of blood as much as possible.

As for 9/11, the US government made it by itself. It was an inside job. It is not that they "did not prevent it". It is rather that "they made it happen".

chronology: Was 911 an inside job? Well like I always say, just present some proof, just a scrap, and maybe people will consider it such. But after 15 years there is no credible evidence U.S. Agencies had any complicity in the 911 atrocity.

We know who most of the hijackers were, the ones who were not engaged in identity theft, and Bin Laden seems to have been complicit in some ways with the crime. What I am noticing the more time goes by is that the Balkans is a place mentioned time and again with attacks on New York, both in 1993 and 2001. And the attacks seem to have been motivated by revenge for NATO Airstrikes on the Balkans. People who live in that region were furious at a NATO strike that destroyed their TV Tower, it was a local landmark and a number of TV Presenters were killed in the operation.

All these events would have gone unoticed in New York Most New Yorkers over the years have lost interest in listening to disputes among 'Hunkies' and only pay scant attention to Irish Nationalist speeches about Britains eleged villanies in Ireland. If anything New Yorkers lost the shouting and rage from the Balkans among the 'white noise' of Cuban Disadents and Iranian protesters.

Was 911 a revenge strike from 'The Balkans with love' ? Outraged Muslims in the Balkans had the means, the motive and opportunity to strike at New York. The problem the F.B.I. face is that the Balkans is a really complex dispute with groups and sub groups fighting each other. but they seem to lack the know how for a 'biggie' like New York.

At the moment the 911 Report is as good as any other explanation.

briansmythe: Who cares any more why do Muslims always try to distract people away from the real Culprits
Who ever they are I donno

briansmythe: Chaney bush and Saudi royals, Never liked that Chaney with his Global warming

briansmythe: Why doesn't Saudis never get the blame for any thing , Always blame the Americans if China was the super power would we blame them Russia?

I K R:

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: i k r - Saudi sins are nothing compared to American or British sins.

It is funny when you are trying blame Saudi, while not blaming USA and UK.

To be fair, I suggest that for every time you blame Saudi, you blame USA and UK for 10 times. That is about the right ratio.

I K R: LOL P-LEASSEE.... you need to back that statement up with some facts......In what way are the UK and USA government more criminal than the Saudis?

I K R: The first victims of any corrupt government are its own citizens....Are you telling me that we dont get treated better than they do......you must be stupid if you think that.

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: i k r - In the way of killing people.

Total number of people that were killed by USA or UK are much larger than that of Saudi.

I K R: rubbish!!! U claim the US is funding ISIS.....they were created by Saudi.....and the US funds indirectly, the saudis are funding directly.

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: Let's ignore ISIS if it is not comfortable. Let's consider "ISIS kills" under "Iraqies" and "Syrians".

Still, Saudi has far less kills than each USA and the UK.

I K R: its ok we can continue with isis.....if i feel the need to stop ill let you know

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: OK.. Let's discuss ISIS in 3.. 2.. 1.. Go.

I K R: they stink....literally....they smell funky

I K R: ty i won again