Nationalism and Multi-culturalism (Page 2)

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: Dude why are you cherry picking criminals that happen to be Muslims.

Do you want me to start cherry picking criminals that are not Muslims?

But when I do that please don't blame me for "omg stop blaming the west". I am just trying to educate you that cherry picking goes both ways, and it will bite you even stronger because the non-Muslims kill more people than the Muslims.

I K R: You are an educated Muslim and yet here u are making excuses for why they have done it....i don't care why ...i think what u highlight is that Islam in uneducated men is dangerous

briansmythe: Are u kidding me we don't have training camps for muslims says a lot I reckon , But then again Im not that educated so I must have it all wrong that every Terrorist group is ISLAMIC

briansmythe: And that's the point Muslims cover for each other

I K R: Educated Muslims haven't been prepared to speak out about it....that actually helps the perpetrators to cry racism when accused

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: i k r - I'm not making excuses for them. I've already said please punish such criminals.

I am saying please don't blame "Muslims" because within the set of "Muslims" there are nice dudes like myself, and my kind are totally innocent.

Jeez, can't you accuse criminals without pulling in the mass of a multi-billion population of Muslims?

Hint: use nationality and education class.

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: Well, educated people don't speak about crimes in general. They are busy earning money.

Moderately educated people speak about it. But somehow you only watch videos of radicals on both sides. Not my fault.

briansmythe: Yeah people who think there smart have got it all figured out, They cant admit to something they might be wrong about, But hey if some one thinks u have to be smart to earn money, well I would call that arrigonce or just full of them selves

briansmythe: Back to your other answer dude I don't need evidence Ive seen it not on u tube real life, And if there saying that allah is god well like I said god doesent want us to fight or use violence in his name and if there doing it on behalf of Allah, Well

I K R: I identify them as Muslims for the same reason i'll identify you as a muslim....because that's how they identify themselves.....When someone tells me they are a muslim I take their word for it.....I dont start asking for proof!!!
Secondly,.N you might find this hard to beleive but they never identify themselves as dumb phucks!!..Maybe becasue they arent all dumb phucks .....there's been cases of muslim councillors and policemen actually taking part in the rapes.......Also, there are plenty of dumb phucks who arent part of the rape gangs.....No doubt many of the victims will be lacking in the brains department.
Thirdly,..Its not my job to protect the reputation of Islam that is for muslims to do...Its your religion you defend it.....go tell the Pakis they arent muslims....You should be outraged at them for misrepresenting Islam....Go put them straight!! in fact......why dont you all demand that Pakistan stops calling itself a muslim country if they arent muslims...hmm?
.....the silence towards these muslim rapists is deafening.
The only victims are the underage kids being raped... in case you forgot.....

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: But we identify in many ways. For example, here is a list of attributes that identify me:

* An animal.
* A mammal.
* A human.
* A male.
* A brown.
* A bearded dude.
* An immigrant.
* A Middle Eastern.
* A computer programmer.
* A lover of women .
* A fan of chicken Tikka Masalla.
* A car driver.
* A non-criminal person.
* A theist.
* A specific branch of theist that likes to believe in Allah (aka Muslim).
* ...
* List goes on and on and on.

So out of all those attributes that identify me, you single out "Muslim", and then perform sweeping generalizations against all other people that are also "Muslims"?

Funny, when something good happens (like 2 Muslims win Nobel prize winners in Physics and Chemistry), you guys say that these are "Middle Easterns that got educated in the West" and that "Islam is irrelevant" as they "only happen to be Muslims by coincidence".

But when some uneducated person from a certain country that often produces idiots commits a rape crime, you say "OMG IT IS ISLAAAM"!!! "IT MUST BE THE RELIGION".

So apparently you guys only generalize it against "Islam" if it is a bad thing, but never generalize against "Islam" if it is a good thing

That said, holy flying turtles already.

I K R: You forgot terrorist !

I K R: You dont half talk some shite man
islam is not a person its a set of very specific ideas/instructions, all of which are aimed at achieving a specific goal.....The only people who think islam is a good idea are called ...........???????

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: Islam is such a brilliant idea. If that's not clear Allahuakbar already

briansmythe: Your the Biggest Idiot moron , Im not a Muslim Lier clown < no offence shore your not FOG

briansmythe: Oh he forgot hypocrite

briansmythe: Cos muntz is always saying people generalise he never does , no coarse not what do they except when the EU gets raped by muslims from muslim lands oh that's right we bombed them ,
Couldent be the people there were sick of there Dictators and there way of life no corse not

briansmythe: So its all justified , go home lol

I K R: The myth of multiculturalism is that we are all part of one race.....the human race...and we can all respect live and love together whilst adhering to our own cultures and customs.
The reality of Multiculturalism .....People with different and often opposing ideals on how we should all live....All.living side by side yet very separately in their own closed off communities, looking at one another with contempt and disgust.
Immigration and multiculturalism are not the same thing....

Multiculturalism brings you a higher degree of diversity ........So what?

" you naturally feel uneasy. Because you are still an animal that is used to the natural phenomenon of tribalism." What? Ok then, Im a Puddy tat
"So far, multiculturalism is great, even in the cases when the nationalists/tribalism are following their natural instinct to hate it." GeeeZ u can waffle
Multiculturalism brings you a higher degree of diversity in your social fabric, which will allow you to find more optimum individuals at certain job positions. This diversity also helps your economy by increased collaboration with more humans"

Ok, you're just stringing buzz words together......though you forgot to throw in "community cohesion" and "tolerance" But why are you tolerating others ideals rather than defending your own? Are you a dumbass? Or u dont live in multicultural society.? N why is it a unicultural phenomenon?

Culture is defined by the way in which we live our lives, which is determined by our beliefs
Multiculturalism is an oxymoron if you beleive all cultures are equally good you are basically saying you believe in no culture. Now, who is the uncultured monkey ?

I K R: If diversity is good, why is being divisive and creating division bad?
unifying under diversity....or talkin shit

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: i k r - Good point Never heard anyone raise that. Holy molly you are such a genius. I'll put that in my arsenal of arguments.

I K R: oh not again....im fed with you copying me

Farouquddeen Mumtaz: When we try to be ourselves, you call us terrorists in trash bags.

When we try to integrate and be like you, you say that you're fed of us copying us.

briansmythe:
May Allah bomb you , yeah great, where are all the cuddly peaceful muslims
they don't exist

I K R: ok then copy me....if it stops you blowing yourself up

That video is old its from when Tony Blair was PM its more like 75+% now wanting sharia