Syrian Conflict (2011-now) (Page 5)

gronchbove
gronchbove: Brother Villa, I have no interest in talking with this child. She calls people names. There is no discussion that can be advanced with such "rude" individuals.

Respect is what the people of Syria and the umma of Allah understand.
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Tell us about the Munich agreement, Brother Villa?

Who was at the discussions?
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villamarvilla
villamarvilla: well I am not talking sides here you guys can discuss anything you want in pm but here this about Syria if you have something to add I'll be thankful
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villamarvilla
villamarvilla: well Iraq Syria moderate rebels France Iran turkey KSA British and of course USA and Russia
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gronchbove
gronchbove: I don't know if I even know Rebecca.

Brother Villa, what did they discuss?

One difficulty is that the West is still not being completely honest about its "intervention in Syria." I believe peace talks are helpful.

I keep telling others, I feel that Syria is turning the corner.

Even in the West, the "political analysts" are predicting that Assad will win.
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Brother Villa,

I just read this:

"It's not quite a ceasefire, more a "cessation of hostilities," explained U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.

But for the Russians, the agreement brokered in Munich to halt the fighting in Syria is neither.

"Despite these accords, Russia will continue its counter-terrorism operation of the air task force," Vladmir Dzhabarov, deputy chairman of the Russian International Affairs Committee, told state media."

Is this the Munich agreement?
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villamarvilla
villamarvilla: Russians changed the crisis poweers on the land yes its turning for Assad and his allies
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villamarvilla
villamarvilla: yes Russia will keep fighting Isis and nusra
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Brother Villa, this is what I think and I want you to share your two cents also.

Did the West offer a cease-fire in 2014 when they were taking over much of Syria? NO.

They know that Russia and Syria have momentum. I quoted one Syrian commander as saying - "Syria has never has higher morale."

Would you stop when you were close to retaking Syria? No.

Personally, Syria has had chaos for years now. I want the Russians and Syrians to regain control of the nation and establish security. Then they can have a ceasefire.

I do support "temporary ceasefires" to clear the bodies.

What do you think?
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gronchbove
gronchbove: The interesting thing is that there are so many rebel groups in Syria, that Russia could keep fighting while having a ceasefire with "one" group.

That makes sense.
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villamarvilla
villamarvilla: well as Iraqi I hope Syrians get peace because their situation effect us and in 2003 invasion Syrians opened their homes for Iraqis so I hope they get security soon
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Brother Villa, tells us about the pipelines. I read that the Iraqi - Syria pipeline was damaged.

Yeah, if Syria has security, Iraq will have better security, economic agreements and can rebuild the region.
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Brother Villa, here is one more facet:

We know the Danglos worship MONEY.

They may be thinking end game.

If Syria gains security, it must be rebuilt. Now, Syria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah will get those building contracts.

I think the West wants to pretend to help, so they can get the contracts to rebuild the nation.

Personally, I hope that Syria, Russia, Iran, Iraq and Hezbollah get those construction contracts.

The Middle East needs that income more than the Danglos.
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wayne elliott
wayne elliott: Does 'Danglos' mean the British or just anyone who's white? Many people in the West did not want the invasion of Iraq which has been the cause of ongoing atrocities in the Middle East.
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dave3974
dave3974: never heard the word before
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villamarvilla
villamarvilla: its probably mean anglo saxons in general i guess anyway what do you guys think of PKK kurds fighters in syria turkey attacking them ?
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Danglos means the 1% committing crimes against the world. Hitler, the Vatican Leader, Cameron, Obama are all Danglos. None of their actions are legal. They are murdering innocent men, women and children daily.

Do you pay taxes, do you fight in the military, do you clothe the military? When the British military murdered 300+ people in India at Amritsar, the English people cheered the crime. At a certain point, the people "are enablers of these crimes against humanity."

Villa, the United States is stuck. The US is arming both the Kurds and Israel States in Iraq and Syria while it is bombing the Israel States in Iraq and Syria.

The Turks are bombing the Kurds and may be supporting the Israel States in Iraq and Syria.

The US and Turks are both in NATO using the same airfield base at Incirlik. Thus, the US is fighting itself because its foreign policy is so inept.
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I K R
I K R: "Danglos" isn't a word is just Grouchs silly made up gibberish, and unfortunately, there are rules which state you must speak in English in the forums.
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Danglos accurately describe a people who have invaded 95% of the world's nations, killed millions, broken into people's home, raped innocent women, subjected people to ethnic cleansing, falsely arrested people for their skin color and have become stuck.

The world is realizing that the Danglos are at fault for all of the crimes against humanity. They invade a nation, murder millions, then say "WHOOPS" like they are children.

NO. That is not how justice works.

We had Nuremburg trials for the Nazis, We can have London trials for the Danglos.
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I K R
I K R: Brother Grouch has an almighty chip on his shoulders because he lacks any knowledge.
I have pointed out many times that when Britian went to war with Iraq it was under the labour government whom to this day holds the majority of the Muslm vote....Why doesnt Brother Grouch hold these Muslims responsible for that?.
N BTW if you really want to blame someone for the enslavement of blacks it all started with the Arabs who, unlike the west (lead by the British) never outlawed slavery.....because of the religion
Brother Grouch needs to enroll for some History and English lessons

Now ive gone to the trouble of posting the lyrics so you can sing along YW
Rule, Britannia!
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
When Britain first, at heaven's command,
Arose from out the azure main,
This was the charter of the land,
And Guardian Angels sang this strain:
(Chorus)
The nations not so blest as thee
Must, in their turn, to tyrants fall,
While thou shalt flourish great and free:
The dread and envy of them all.
(Chorus)
Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
More dreadful from each foreign stroke,
As the loud blast that tears the skies
Serves but to root thy native oak.
(Chorus)
Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame;
All their attempts to bend thee down
Will but arouse thy generous flame,
But work their woe and thy renown.
(Chorus)
To thee belongs the rural reign;
Thy cities shall with commerce shine;
All thine shall be the subject main,
And every shore it circles, thine.
(Chorus)
The Muses, still with freedom found,
Shall to thy happy coasts repair.
Blest isle! with matchless beauty crowned,
And manly hearts to guard the fair.
(Chorus)
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Even Brits realize that the nation is guilty of War Crimes.

Ireland could easily file Genocide charges against England.

Look at the present Middle East - the borders were created by the UK.

What we see in 2016 is the unraveling of the English Evil Empire.

Allah will not abide with criminals.
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SWlNE
SWlNE: From what I'm aware of, Villam, it looks like Turkey will prefer to continue their continuous fights against the PKK even if the PKK are fighting against ISIS. I'm not sure if they've changed but I remember before that they were not that heavy on ISIS maybe because that group is benefiting Turkey, -fighting both Assad and PKK, also providing blackmarket oil sales.
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Filth, I think you are correct. I believe Israel, Saudis and Turks are receiving oil from both the Kurds and IZIZ.

I am hoping much of this "is just talk" about escalation.

Russia controls the Syrian skies - the Turks, Saudis and Qataris cannot fly over Syrian air space. Remember what happened to the Russian jet over Turkish air space? The Russians would be quick to repeat that if any Turk, Saudi or Qatari jets flew into Syria.
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I K R
I K R: Yes grouch but also take into account why Britain and the UN divided the Middle East up into separate countries....The various factions of islam can't be civil with each other let alone anyone else....What you see now in the middle east is an Islamic power struggle to determine who will rule the next caliphate
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gronchbove
gronchbove: Rebecca, I am guessing you are in England. Don't you have a vote on whether England should remain in the European Union?

Didn't you have a Scottish vote for secession?

Europeans are not civil with one another.

.... and by setting up the Middle Eastern nations, the Brits became responsible therefore. That is the law. When they collapse, the people will be going after the Brits.
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