Syrian Conflict (2011-now) (Page 3)
gronchbove: Thanks, Dave.
The Middle Eastern borders were "constructed by the British circa 1900s. The Saudi royalty was installed by the Brits. When there is a coup, the Brits invade to "reinstall" their petty dictators.
I believe that Germany admitted that it is now assisting Syria with surveillance and intelligence from its spy networks.
This is a gradual shift away from the US and England.
dave3974: If so that I good news , I struggle to understand what our government is trying to achieve in the area
gronchbove: Dave, one element of good news, is that most Americans and Brits don't support these government actions in Syria.
The vast electorate in the US & UK do not know what it is like to have war/conflict imposed on their country or experience a strong invasion. There are some who have not even been to war but call for declarations of war. That's one of the problem. Ignorance.
gronchbove: Very good statement, Filth. I agree with it 100%.
It is so odd, we have all these wealthy US and UK just going about their days, while the Syrians are dying at the hands of the US and UK governments.
It is a bit surreal.
wayne elliott: Yes, what should be done is what the allies at the end of WW2 did when they gathered Germans from areas around the concentration camps and marched them through the horror and made them see/smell/hear it. Perhaps some package holidays for manageable groups of pro-war English/American/Australian citizens to step into the war zone of Syria after tours of Afghanistan and Iraq. Morning exercise could be digging through the rubble for the deceased women and children. Could be the next Thomas Cook of travel.
gronchbove: I agree, Wayne Elliott. I don't really understand this world. How can anyone kill so many innocents and never face the victims?
It sounds like the US has given up in Syria.
These scum bag leaders want to claim victory after all the evil they have done in Syria.
I hope these scum murderers burn in HELL!
"Mr Assad was speaking in Damascus on Thursday, ahead of the deal on the cessation of hostilities, agreed in Munich late on Thursday night.
He said government forces would try to retake all of Syria "without any hesitation", but that the involvement of regional powers meant that "the solution will take a long time and will incur a heavy price"."
More than 250,000 people (and counting) killed and over 11 million displaced for what?
gronchbove: Filth, war is odd. Usually, it is full of "deception." Remember the Geneva talks and the Saudis trying to get the rebel groups together? Peace talks might be a sign of weakness. I posted that the Assad troops have never felt higher morale. Personally, I think the Syrians and Russians will try to retake all of Syria, then they will work with Iraq to retake all of Iraq territory.
Villa, I posted on Aleppo. The Assad troops are making a lot of gains. They have encircled both groups. There are like 50,000 Syrian refugees heading to Turkiye.
My belief is that Assad might try to take Aleppo. Then spend a couple of months, rebuilding the city. Meanwhile, the Russians will bomb the river areas, south and middle. Syria wants to regain its oil fields in the East after regaining Aleppo.
What do you think?
SWlNE: I remember reading of KSA's call for a meeting with the 'rebel groups', I didn't follow up on the results of it. From what I gather they only have one thing in common: they want Assad out. They all seem to have different motives, ideologies and plans hence why there's no cohesion. All these 'moderate rebels'. Truth? I don't trust them either. Most, if not all of them are already funded by KSA so it's no surprise that they'll call for a regrouping. I'd not call that peace talks, man.
gronchbove: Filth, I agree with you. Assad's first strength was he was a "known quantity" - if the rebels had united, then they might have had a chance.
Secondly, the entrance of Russia changes the entire balance of power in the Middle East.
I would not be surprised if there are a dozen different nations each with their own rebel group in Syria.
Thus, Assad has all the momentum.
villamarvilla: many of those groups are jihadists and extremists some of them are worse than ISIS at least assad protecting small religions there he is not good he is bad but not the worse
villamarvilla: which girl ? but i seen the video when a moderate rebel eat the parts of syrian soldier
gronchbove: Filth and Villa, I just posted her video on my feed.
Let me see if it works here:
She is brilliant.
See Danglos don't think Arabs are smart. Same racism they use against Black. But this woman has "basically explained the evil agendas of Danglos from day one."
Allah will defeat the wicked because they are arrogant!
SWlNE: And that's the dangers of it, the dangers of arming and supporting these groups. The US and company only concern themselves with 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' without thinking deeper and inquiring further on these groups. From the very beginning their only concern was to create uprising and coups just to manipulate the politics of the country.
I don't think anyone involved in that conflict gives much of a shit or is genuine about it. That's no revolution.
gronchbove: During the Cold War, the West won the "propaganda war." But with Russian Today, Putin and bloggers, like this Syrian girl, the righteous are defeating the Danglo lies.
Allah is Providing the Truth.
And I agree with Filth, I don't know much about Assad, but Assad is better than having Zionists run Syria.
gronchbove: Filth, you are correct. The West is lost. In Ukraine, you have Zionists arming "Neo-Nazis" who killed Jews during World War II.
Yeah, the West has lost their minds! They will fall, because they are insane. Nothing, they are doing makes sense.
Honestly, we are talking 400,000 dead? Shouldn't we blame the West for arming crazy folks in Syria? War Crimes against Cameron and Obama .... Putin is pushing that envelope.
Look at Tunisia - peaceful revolution.
gronchbove: Brother Villa, think about this.
The Israeli Security Forces In Iraq and Syria are nuts?
What is up with that name?
Why not Israeli Security In Iraq?
They are revealing their hands!
They are using ex-Saddam Hussein soldiers in Iraq to fight in Syria! Right?
Danglos are so dumb!
gronchbove: I think we need to start thinking about the next step.
IZIZ days may be numbered.
The West does not understand Islam. Thus, they think they can create fake groups as straw man.
What will the West do if IZIZ is defeated?