Syrian Conflict (2011-now) (Page 2) gronchbove: Yes. Most Western Democracies are really "Bankerocracies." The large banks hold the power and hire puppets to pretend the people have a voice. See Greece. The Greeks voted NO, what did the Bankers do? Just ignore the people, because the people don't rule Greece, the Banks do.  dave3974: Well done, leave it to the Russian and Chinese the west only wants ISIL to flourish and terrorism to carry on it suites their agenda and serves their interests and goals better. Removing Assad is an excuse to prolong the tragic war in Syria, his crime was that he kept a circular government at the same time keeping the lid on Muslim extremists/jihadis for a long time, the west and its allies don't like him because he doesn't bow to them and their demands, he is also an ally of Russia and Iran. It is beyond belief how ISIL managed to survive all this time, a bunch of drugged up rascals beating an awesome well established world powers even running circles round them, how is it that Russia achieved so much against ISIL in such a little time. Why ISIL who could strike countries hundreds may be thousand of miles away didn't strike Saudi, Qatar, Turkey, USA, United Arab Emirates or Israel which is the only country that ISIL have more of a valid reason to attack. Why is Turkey sending terrorists to us in the form of refugees, they also have their own agenda and orders to follow. Some of those refugees are active others are sleeping cells, but yes also the majority are innocent fleeing the brutality of the Middle East. Why can't the above countries take them, they are wealthy Muslim and Arab countries and have much to blame together with the west in allowing ISIL to thrive. But no they would rather export trouble to us while they sit and watch how their mischief working without it costing them hardly anything. The plan is to destabilise Europe as well the same as they did in Libya, Iraq, Syria and very nearly Egypt and Tunisia using the same method "turning people against each other" they want Europeans to hate Muslims and start civil unrest resulting in more chaos, economic and financial trouble. The USA and its allies should not have supported the Taliban to fight the Russians in the nineties in the first place, this gave rise to Islamisation and Jihadism it was yet another big mistake which backfired. Part of the plan is also to keep spying/snooping at the world with the excuse of security and safety always playing at people's fear. What is apparent the more we follow the more we trust and believe in the USA administration whether in the economy, finance or military the deeper the hole gets and we seem to be in permanent trouble. We need to disengage with them, their policies are crazy and doesn't make sense full of conspiracies, lies and deceit and are not sustainable, they always aim for the short term only. Our leaders (starting with Tony Blair) are not bothered, the rich and powerful (Masters of the universe) don't care they all belong to a Masonic Mafia and don't mind harming their own to achieve their goals, to them anybody or any nation without a debt might as well be dead as they will not profit or control them. The bottom line is we the ordinary people are the victims we take the worst brunt gronchbove: Yes. This is simply a "WAR CRIME." Swedes and Brits think that if a bunch of people commit a crime together, it is ok. No, that is called a gang. gronchbove: Yeah, we know what you meant, Filth. I hope we have turned the corner. Putin is SHAMING the leaders of the Earth! I hope this works and we have Peace in Syria. SWlNE: "Saudi Arabia has issued invitations to 65 Syrian opposition figures to attend a conference in Riyadh in an attempt to unify their positions ahead of proposed Syrian peace talks, according to Saudi media. No date has yet been set for the Riyadh meeting, but sources say it could take place next week, Reuters reported. The Saudi Foreign Ministry invited 20 members of the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), along with seven from the National Coordination Body, an internal opposition group, according to Asharq al-Awsat of SNC. Another 10 to 15 places were reportedly allocated to rebel leaders and 20 to 25 to independents, business leaders and religious figures, a media report said." Looks like a Mad Hatter Tea Party. gronchbove: It is insane. But gradually, we are seeing the positions fleshed out. I think the Saudis are some of the primary factors being the war. Now, Germany is sending troops. I agree, it is a mess. SWlNE: True, man. I think that it may be a bigger mess once ISIS is defeated because the root of the conflict is still there. What will they do with the 'rebels' that the US support, which some consider to be equal terrorists? or the power struggle with Assad and the fight to get a standing in Syria. ISIS will be defeated but it will be something to see what will follow after. gronchbove: Let us follow this through logically ... Germany, France and United States invade Syria to destroy the bad guys. Well, once they are in Syria, don't we think they will stay? Just like Iraq and Afghanistan, the goal is not to help Syria, but to make a false reason for allowing the United States military in Syria. Remember, the neighbor of Syria is Zionism. Won't The Zionists simply annex Syria? That is one possible scenario. gronchbove: The Zionists are running the country and may be running America. How successful are the Zionists at running Detroit? gronchbove: Dave, man, come on, do you even read real news? 1) Syrian rebels have been treated in Israeli hospitals 2) Who benefits from a depopulated Syria? 3) Israel military advisors have already been captured in Syria. 4) I can show you a map where Israel has "taken Syrian land." Yes, Israel is in Syria. Don't believe anything you hear from the Zionist owned media. I can give you proof and links if you want the truth. SWlNE: Read that the Syrian army camp was also targeted. This world is a mess. It's messed up that the citizens, the regular people didn't have control on what happened or had a say on the matter. Outside parties instigated this and now that they try to leave their homeland for their safety and their family's safety, they face prejudice. gronchbove: Yes, honestly, I have never heard of a war like this. It is not even war. It is like animals ...mauling one another. I agree with you. Who has to benefit from a depopulated Syria? Can you say the next door neighbor? Zion? I think the world is waking up and knows the guilty party. SWlNE: Perhaps it is more than that. There is a lot to be gained from different sides. The joke is that all these years the US and allies made claims that they were handling the matter there, allowing these so-called rebels to gain momentum and it was only when Russia started they sat up and pretend to be more serious and proactive. I don't know what democratic election they claim to be planning after most have fled and the rest flattened by bombs. But it is too clear that the agenda is not a 'democratic' one. (Edited by SWlNE) gronchbove: Yes, you are correct. I think the world is waking up. Yesterday, RT reported that the US airforce bombed a Syrian Army base killing 3 soldiers. I just posted. Thus, the "rose colored glasses" are being removed. We know see the reality. The US is only attacking legitimate governments in the Middle East, which is a WAR CRIME! dave3974: THE only involvement with israel in the conflict has been when it has been attacked, it is a shame Assad did not have the courage to make peace with isreal a few year ago they may have offered some good support "Israel has repeatedly said it holds the Syrian government responsible for any attacks emanating from its territory, regardless of who actually carries them out. Israel captured the Golan Heights, a strategic plateau overlooking northern Israel, from Syria in the 1967 Middle East war. Israel's annexation of the area has never been recognised internationally. The incident occurred in the area of Tel Hazeka, near the Quneitra crossing. The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Syrian troops had shelled nearby targets on the Syrian border earlier in the day. Israeli police identified the boy as Mohammed Karaka, 14, of the Arab village of Arraba in northern Israel. Local media said he had accompanied his father, the truck driver, to work. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he spoke to the boy's father and sent his condolences. "Our enemies don't differentiate between Jews and non-Jews, adults and children," he told an international gathering of Jewish journalists." gronchbove: Dave, are you paid by the Rothschilds? lol Did you know that Israeli is kidnapping Palestinian children. A boy of 14 years old? Do you even read your own posts? Israel is afraid of a 14 year old boy? Reminds me of Israel as Goliath, and Muslims as David. Zionists to Dave: "The check is in the mail." dave3974: you need to read my posts, this the 14 year old named mohammed was killed by weapons from syria -----read the post !!! gronchbove: Dave, do you realize that 400,000 Syrians are dead from weapons from the US and Zion? I believe yesterday, a member of the US coalition in Syria bombed a Syrian army post killing 3 soldiers. Just last week, the US bombed Aleppo. 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