Refugee Crisis :Who is to blame (Page 25)

I K R
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I K R: well they will have an easy ride taking over Spain if FoG Brain is anything to go by
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I K R
I K R: Imagine there's no Islam
It's easy if we try
No more beheadings
stop letting innocents die

Imagine all the people
telling the truth today
Allahhh, ahhh

Imagine no Muhammad
it isn't hard to do
No more primitive hatred
and no misogyny too

Imagine all the gay people
living free from Sharia tyranny
yoohoo, ohhh

You may say I'm a racist
but I know it's not the case
I hope some day you will realise
that Islam is not a race

Imagine no Qu'ran
I wonder if we can
No need for anti-Semitism
Wake up and stop Islam's plan

Imagine all the women
treated as equal beings
yoohoo, ohh

You may say it's cultural difference
but you're not fooling anyone
I hope some day you will realise
and the world will heal as one
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michaelruz
michaelruz: Beautiful,,, Beautiful... Amen.
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I K R:

We don’t know who is here in our continent, and among those who are here there are too many who are active enemies of our societies and our way of life. They hate us when we are involved in the Middle East and they hate us when we are not. They hate us when we stay in our countries and when we leave them. They attack us when we are in Paris and when we are on holiday in North Africa. We need to wake up to the fact that the problem is not us – it is them.
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I K R
I K R: What this thread demonstrates nicely is that far far too many people blame the West for what is happening in countries like Syria. And that is precisely why terrorist feel justified when they attacked France.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

What also amazes me is how Muslims by the thousands have been murdered by the fundamentalist extremist Islamist's and the West is blamed for their actions.

Amazing.

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I K R
I K R: Exactly David it is the west's fault when the twin towers were destroyed, when we went into Iraq, and when we pulled out, when we don't intervene, and when we do, and they blame us for isis.... Nevermind the fact it is muslims who run off to fight for isis.... They think that's irrelevant. Are these people so brain dead that they can never be responsible for their own actions.
Then they accuse us of not understanding Islam, and yet when you investigate Islamic teachings u see hate and violence... Then they say oh well it doesn't translate well into english..... Well they got that right it really doesn't read well.
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I K R
I K R: On the news tonight we were told that one of the Paris suicide bombers had a bad upbringing.... Like that was a primary cause.... Plenty of people have shit upbringing without killing innocent people there's no connection..... The connection is Islam.
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I K R: N they wonder how this happened in Paris when the police had the ringleader on the radar... The answer is simple... Its because there r too many muslims willing to commit these types of crimes.. Its impossible to keep track of them all.
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davidk14
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In France, there are no go zones for the cops in Sharia controlled neighborhoods. Perhaps it's time for the French to take back their homeland from these criminals.

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goalie29763
goalie29763: This is the other part of this so called refugee approach into America

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/11/19/potential-islamic-terrorists-are-streaming-over-our-southern-border/


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I K R: There's a no go area in my home town for non muslims n u don't see any moderate muslimes complain or fuss about it.
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jeffrie85
jeffrie85: https://media.8ch.net/christian/src/1447637402868-0.png

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fred blogs
fred blogs: Who ever said Muslims are to blame, Hit the nail on the head, Its plain and simple, Refugees
geez, Just dome come here, Sort your own crap out, IN YOUR HOMELAND piss off, stop ruining every other Country, With your bullshit
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I K R: Well they don't come for a better way of life...they come we with the intention of crapping on ours.... Majority of them reach safety long before they reach their desired country of choice (which you can guarantee will have a benefits system for them to freeload from),,, They brag about it all over the Internet.... N let's not forget they consider it to be living "in the house of war" whenever they're in a non shariah governed country.
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SWlNE
SWlNE:
Christian terrorist killed several persons over abortion scriptures. Are you going to hold all Christians responsible for that action, Davidk14 or will you be keeping silent on your position?



Want to know why the West is blamed? -Your foreign policy of creating, arming and supporting these fundamentalists. That's where your taxes are going. And you continue to remain silent on it and not oppose the actions of your government. But what can I say, it is easier for you all to copy and paste from various weak sites than engage in some meaningful action by cleaning up the actions of your elected governments.
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I K R: Your such a drip arent you... There's so many of our governments policies that I disagree with n they certainly was not elected by me.... But do not try n remove the blame from the people who think it's OK to run around and terrorise others JUST because they disagree with a governments foreign policy.... Imagine if we all did that and then allowed these terrorist to dictate to us what our foreign policies should be.... Democracy may not be perfect but it is far far better than any dictatorship that we see in the middle east..... As I have said before it is very difficult to offer any middle eastern government support because non of them are worth supporting
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I K R
I K R: N here's another thing you don't seem to grasp.. the Bible does not order Christians to go and murder another living being... In fact the Bible says things like.... Thou shall not kill, he who is without sin may cast the first stone...... That same story (the adulterous woman) the child rapist Muhammed has the woman stoned to death.....
When you look at jesus n the fundamentals of Christianity you have a peace loving hippy whose most violent outburst was ranting at the mount of olives
When you look at Muhammad's life you have isis.... Muhammed was A terrorist.
How many times do you need this explaining n how long before you actually bother to read a Koran. I m getting bored with you n your gigantic fucking head that has only one or two brain cells rattling around
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Filth said:

Christian terrorist killed several persons over abortion scriptures.


David responds:

There are those that believe that abortion should not take place unless:
…the child is not viable
…that the mother’s life is at risk
…or there is incest or rape which caused the pregnancy.

There are those who believe that there should be no abortions at all.

There are those that believe it’s a woman’s right to abort anytime.

Has little or nothing to do with religion.

However, in the Islamic religion, murder is a way of life for the 1%...and they do not discriminate because of race, creed, color, age, or sexual preference.


Filth said:

Are you going to hold all Christians responsible for that action, Davidk14 or will you be keeping silent on your position?



David responds:

People that murder people or abort viable fetuses which is considered murder, come in all races, creeds, religions and have different sexual preferences. For you to single out a single mentally ill individual is par for you.



Filth said:

Want to know why the West is blamed? -Your foreign policy of creating, arming and supporting these fundamentalists.


David responds:

My foreign policy? You mean Western foreign policy? What foreign policy of what government to you follow?


Filth continues:

That's where your taxes are going.


David responds:

That’s not true by a long shot. Only 20% of the tax collected goes for the military and such. 60% of the taxes collected go toward social programs, and 20% is collected to run the daily business of government. Only 1% of taxes collected goes toward USAID to foreign governments.


Filth continues:

And you continue to remain silent on it and not oppose the actions of your government.


David responds:

Remain silent on what? Under funding the fight against ISIS, Iran, NKorea and the other scum of the earth??


Filth continues:
But what can I say, it is easier for you all to copy and paste from various weak sites than engage in some meaningful action by cleaning up the actions of your elected governments.


David responds:

There is no sitting on the fence. It really comes down to if you are a part of Western culture or you choose to be a part of radical, extremist Islamic culture which 10’s of millions are a part of. Seriously.


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I K R
I K R: I am western n i want to ensure my country stays western and civilised for the sake of my children.... To hell with muslims and every single one of their ugly, and backward bs beliefs
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SWlNE
SWlNE:

It has everything thing to do with religion. The attacks on Plan Parenthood and 'abortion clinics' were and are religious based attacks from Christian terrorist. There has been a history of said attacks, carried out by Christian extremist using biblical scriptures as their basis.

Are you naive that you are not aware these actions? Perhaps you are. Perhaps fox news hasn't covered that as yet and you're in the dark.

A site you should visit to help your ignorance:

http://www.armyofgod.com/

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On your comment:
"People that murder people or abort viable fetuses which is considered murder, come in all races, creeds, religions and have different sexual preferences. For you to single out a single mentally ill individual is par for you."

Your hypocrisy is showing. This was not a single event, it has been carried out many times that persons were killed by fanatical christians. Whether you are pro-abortion or anti-abortion, killing individuals are considered murder. These individuals who carried out the events were not considered mentally ill, they were fanatics who followed the Christian religion. I recall your stance on religious fanatics: Persons in that religion should also be held responsible.

Again. Are you still in agreement with your stance or is your stance only reserved for muslims?

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The US foreign policy and countries who support and carry it out. Arming, training, creating fanatical groups is creating the problem we have today. Your government can only be financed through taxes (which you are paying). Where is your outcry on your government arming, training and creating these groups? You've continued to keep silent on these actions. Currently your US government is financing and arming groups in Syria that they have labelled as 'rebel groups', they did the same for Al-Qaeda. Where is your voice on this?

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There is 'no either or'. There is one stance a person should take and that is to be against all atrocities and all wrong doing, whether that is done by 'Western governments' or 'Violent fanatics'. Where is your voice?


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SWlNE
SWlNE:

A few biblical verses still being used today to carry out atrocities:

*Leviticus 20:13 - Uganda

"“Go away! We know who you are. We don’t want you in our country. If we see you, we’ll burn you to death.” Melanie Kiwagama reads out the text messages she received last year, after Uganda’s notorious anti-homosexuality bill came into effect. Since then, she says the flow of threats towards her and her partner have been constant."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/06/-sp-gay-ugandans-face-new-threat-from-anti-homosexuality-law

* Exodus 21:22-23 -USA
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My question remains. Are you also going to hold all christians responsible for these actions and make them be required to answer to it as you stated towards muslims? Keep in mind this is your crazy stance, not mine.
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SWlNE
SWlNE:

A reminder of your stance, Davidk14:

"It's time for the 2.2 billion Muslims to take responsibility for their crazies or be held accountable."

stated: Topic: Politics

Now are you ready to apply this also to Christians considering the present violence carried out by 'their crazies'? You seem to be having difficulties facing the question.
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davidk14
davidk14: .


I don't know where you leave off and where your begins.

You said......"...There is 'no either or'. There is one stance a person should take and that is to be against all atrocities and all wrong doing, whether that is done by 'Western governments' or 'Violent fanatics'. Where is your voice? "

Seriously? You never condemn the Islamic fanatics. EVER! Never EVER. You just attack 'us WESTERNERS" because we are pointing the finger at those...the radical, Islamic extremists that number in the frickin TENS of MILLIONS that are extreme, radical ISLAMIST'S and have state that their goals is world domination and will cut the heads off of unbelievers. I guess you do not know how WE feel is because you just might be a believer. Once again, your is waving high right now.

The abort fanatic that killed in the name of saving life...is mentally ill.
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