ISIS (Page 5) davidk14: . Back to the thread... Just read that that the Afghan forces called in an air strike on a building which turned out to be a hospital with combatants as well as non-combatants. The Americans did not verify the target. Since the US really only has a limited role in Afghanistan, both sides of the Afghan conflict are now at the same level of barbarianism. .  SWlNE: Yes, that attack on the Soviets was a bad move. I think many different things contributed to the winning of that war. It was really something else. The Nazis were so close. I think too that Hitler caused part of his downfall. I remember reading about him neglecting the counsel of his military men.  I K R: http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/africa/2015/11/14/U-S-carried-out-airstrike-in-Libya-against-ISIS-leader-U-S-official.html Go america  (Post deleted by staff )  lori100: France Strikes ISIS Targets in Syria in Retaliation for Attacks New York Times - 35 mins ago PARIS — France bombed the Syrian city of Raqqa on Sunday night, its most aggressive ... (Post deleted by staff ) Captain Canada: It's only my opinion and nothing else eh Bin laden received aid from the yanks to fight soviet Union in Afghanistan, USA idolize Binny boy as a freedom fighter than turn their backs on him. ISIS not their original NAME were trained and armed and finance by the good old Uncle Sam into fighting another old allie of the USA,bad boy Hussein and it just took off into other regions,only difference with these young bunch of men and women is that they fighting for their own financial gains and don't to share their plunders with no one else It's all about money and power Just my opinion eh. Shangri La Chaser: Unless we learn about the past or from the past and rectify the mistakes of the past, well... the consequence is massive destruction! Article Title: Age of Despair: Reaping the Whirlwind of Western Support for Extremist Violence Link: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Age-of-Despair-Reaping-th-by-Chris-Floyd-Intervention_Isis_Support-Of-The-People_Violence-War-151113-25.html Video Title: Noam Chomsky on How the U.S. Helped Create Islamic State Video Link: (open it in a new tab/window) http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/video_noam_chomsky_on_how_the_us_helped_create_islamic_state_20150827 Shangri La Chaser: "ISIS is the progeny of those in Washington, London and Paris who, in conspiring to destroy Iraq, Syria and Libya, committed an epic crime against humanity. Like Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, ISIS are the mutations of a western state terror dispensed by a venal imperial elite undeterred by the consequences of actions taken at great remove in distance and culture." Article: From Pol Pot to ISIS: The Blood Never Dried Link: https://newmatilda.com/2015/11/17/from-pol-pot-to-isis-the-blood-never-dried/ (Post deleted by staff ) SWlNE: haa this world is crazy. You find a radical group and you arm it. You support it. Then think they'll suddenly go away when you're done with them. It's stupid. That's like Russia arming and supporting the KKK (the most extreme representation of Christian supporters). You think nothing will come from supporting and arming the most fùcked up radical groups in the world? Now muslims and nonmuslims have to deal with it. davidk14: Shangri LA Chaser.. The author of your link also wrote the following.... https://newmatilda.com/2015/11/17/interventionists-beware-a-century-of-failure-in-the-middle-east-has-no-quick-fix/ This article is much more sane. . (Post deleted by staff ) SWlNE: I doubt it, Willy1522. These nutjobs would've died down and would've been much less influential. There will be people in each ideology or religion who will use it as a means of violence etc. (even 'democracy' has been used to that end). You don't go around arming or giving persons as like a voice. (Edited by SWlNE) Captain Canada: All nice a dandy but maybe the old saying is reversed in this case ""Never bite the hand that feeds you"" Captain Canada: Something like that I guess young lad They fed a potential vicious dog thinking that it could be tamed into a cute,very cute little puppy Shangri La Chaser: @David , So????? Article is much saner and voices my point exactly! "Why does this history lesson matter? It tells us how we got from there to here. It is the disastrous history of western imperialism, intervention and war in the Middle East that drive terrorism directed at the west. Western jails incubated the leadership of Islamic State, western foreign policy sustained it with thousands of foreign fighters, and failed western-trained armies supplied it with captured tanks, Humvees and explosives." Not at all defending ISIS, but then, if ISIS is to be blamed, countries, banks and all the organizations (embedded in the Western world) funding ISIS and providing/selling weapons to these terrorist groups are to be equally blamed. Article: Jeremy Corbyn calls for economic sanctions against banks and countries funding Isis Link: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-calls-for-sanctions-against-banks-and-countries-funding-isis-a6739081.html @Conchita, Be careful when you blame Islam or Muslims for the crimes carried out by a few group of so called Muslims, who have killed all those it considers to be heathens or apostates which include Shia Muslims, Sufi Muslims, alwites, Yazidis, Christians and secularists. Remember, it’s the Muslims within the Muslim world and beyond the Muslim world (target of Islamophobia) who are the worst victims. Based on the statistics, the number of Muslims who have been killed by the suicide attacks (in Iraq, Syria, Beirut, Yemen......) is higher than the people belonging to any other groups. Also, be careful to distinguish ‘Islam as a religious faith’ from ‘Islam as a political ideology’ (which is anything, but Islamic). We’ve had enough of hatred! So, why spread more hatred? There’s no justification to killing of any innocent or innocents, whether it’s in Iraq, Syria, Beirut, or in Paris or any other parts of the world. 700,000 deaths in Iraq alone following Iraq Invasion ( and, failed to find the weapon of mass destruction) and what sane mind would expect the bereaved families of the innocent victims not to breed hatred for the ones responsible for the war crime or say genocide? Captain Canada: Omg I am truly shocked that after all these years and with tonnnes of new technology and hundreds of allied special forces on the ground ATM they still haven't fucking found those weapons of mass destruction Those weapons ether the size of a grain of sand or Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson bought them last weekend for a mere song and a shake. Wow I K R: I do blame islam for the hatred it breeds n no i won't be careful about saying so... What u gonna do.? Chop my head off? davidk14: . Chaser.... Did a little checking on your 700,000 deaths in Iraq. I found that the number you show is based on a survey. The Associated Press shows 110,600 violent deaths occurred with most by car bombs. The Lancet Survey shows 600,000, the Opinion Research Business Survey shows 1,000,000. You can find numerous surveys or other research and they all have huge swings depending on the political swing of the company or organization. . Shangri La Chaser: @Conichita "What you gonna do?" Chop my head off?" Seriously??? Where did these come from???? I hope I am not talking to a nursery kid. And, sorry! I don't understand your language of hatred and threat! And, moreover, I don't take pleasure in someone's pain. It's not in my blood! But then, for you, I can say only one thing that there is no remedy to ignorance and hatred! By the way, your head is precious (leaving you hatred filled brain) so take care of it @David, I shall consider what you wrote and do the checking myself. Thanks! Oh...by the way, I was reading these articles yesterday. Found it interesting, relevant and worth a read. Article 1: Bombing Syria is a very bad idea: here's six reasons why Link: http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/six-reasons-why-bombing-syria-is-a-very-bad-idea Article 2: Anti-Terrorist Hacker Group Reveals 40 ISIS Websites Protected by US Tech Firm Link: https://www.minds.com/blog/view/509442410363760640/anti-terrorist-hacker-group-reveals-40-isis-websites-protected-by-us-tech-firm Captain Canada: Miss Chochita,I never like to discuss religions cuz in my opinion they are all bullshit and only to gain monetary funds from their followers /believers . I don't care for one God over the other ones God or gods nor that prophet over that other mans prophets nor will I defend or fight for anybodies religious believes however I do have one question for you??? In recent years,due to more openness in the media,several Roman Catholic priests have been charged in the courts of law around the globe with sexual exploitation of children,with minors and engaging in sexual acts,,,,they have been charged as sexual phedofiles, Is every Roman Catholic man a child sexual predator ???? | Politics Chat Room 77 People Chatting Similar Conversations |