congrats to Palestine (Page 3) chronology: poetry123. Interesting comparison you make between Palestinians and people in Michigan about water. I was reading some of the wording about funding for many programmes in Michigan 'The Hammer' 'Time to get Tough' 'Cut the Water off to all these people' if Israel used language like that people would flash it across the world. The scenes of people scrambling for water in Detroit and the West Bank are distressing.  (Post deleted by staff ) (Post deleted by staff )  lisa99hunter: I’m half Norwegian and we always been supporting a peace solution for that conflict. The Oslo agreement among other. I’m for Palestine righs and think they have been threatened beyond unfair. I’m against Isreals politics and how they break promises and take land and kill young people who have done nothing wrong other than speak up. You would think that after the early 40s they should have learned something. In Europe they wasn’t exactly friendly with the Jewish population..... and not just SS there are many to blame and many rich companies today have made big money on that......Phillips..... among many.  (Post deleted by dave3974 ) lisa99hunter: It was definitely on purpose and not my personal view more just to create some affection (Post deleted by staff )  briansmythe: On the bit about water , Isreal has given water to Syria In there sival war , but no ne ever heas about it , Isreal never borke the Oslow peace accord , (Edited by briansmythe) lisa99hunter: No that’s not how Norway teach the Holochost I just mentioned it in its simplicity. Much of the Jewish populations where murderd during the war Norway with Denmark probably saved more Jews than any nations we were self occupied by the German. And big parts of Norway was bombarded because we never actually surrendered. I have been to the Auscwirz museum myself and I’m confident that we have that topic in our history classes more than many. Norway helped Jews over to Sweden risking their lives doing that. Norway gives out the Nobel peace prize. Israel building settlements where they agreed not to do it and if you go there your self you can see the suffering among the palistain people from bombs that hit children’s hospital and so on. It’s part of American culture to be pro Israel without knowing really anything about the condition there. I know that in first person.? Think Europe in general have a much better knowledge around holocost as most people in Florida I ask just have a vastly idea what it means. We still have survivors that teach new generations about the subject. We don’t have much nazism in Norway unlike United States that even have natzi political party . We also like the states have free speech and just the same demarcation system but we also recognize that natzism is also a political government from of dictatorship and then per definition is a treat to democracy.?and therefore illegal.! We just want peace really and both sides have to participate for that to happen. Little tiered of fellow Americans that make opinions but not based on knowledge but culture (Post deleted by staff ) lisa99hunter: There are in fact American banks among other companies that profited on holcost chace for example much European companies also that are big today.Ford is an other one. When I say Europe wasn’t nice I refer to for example England that per German request without being occupied sent much of there Jewish population east few survived. Many other countries as well and it’s ignorance to say they didn’t know what would happen to them. Phillips huge European companie is based on profits from holcost Mercedes Benz. And there was many nationalities among SS even gestapo ( often better to read history books written by the defited) that found the treatment so gruesome that the had to stop individual groups from other countries because even by their standards it was beyond. Not so much literature out there about the holocost on the Gypsy population. One of the few books I couldn’t finish and at large it was polish “ regularly people “ that was at large behind that without any SS motivation eyewitness so gruesome that I stopped reading it. I’ve read a lot of literature on holocost and SS . knupp last name a German a book simply called the SS is one of the most informative books out there. I’ve also read Rudolf Huss the commandant of aushwitz own memories that he was asked to write while waiting on his execution. Disgusting book in many ways but very informative if you like to understand. Interesting enough it was previous school teachers shoemakers and other “normal “ people that requted them self and worked in many of the concentrations camps. Evil??? Definde that? Opretonetst it’s what many of the personalities had in common who took such a gruesome job. In SS specifically working in the camps gave a lot of shortcuts up in the system. Anyone can be evil I’ve read about a experimental done by 5th year psychology students all good friends at university of northern Norway. Psychologists organized the experiment that was supposed to Las 24 hours half the class was prisoners and the other half guards. Of course the psychologists made roles and it was definitely a mind game. It had to stop after 8 hours because of the treatment of the prisoners went out of control. I have my self participated in a mind control test. Nothing to do with vileness but just prodgects we had to do this was completely of free will lasted for almost four days the things we did was pointless but I didn’t sleep for the whole time and was convinced that my life would never recover if I didn’t manage this prodjects. We made it simply because they were looking for team work only done by the military. Nothing bad just remember how disappointed I was when it was over and they told us something we really already know. Incredible how that works when professional people are doing it. I can almost not remember anything other than I was 100% sure this was a must to even have a future. Most perticpants was older and well educated with good jobs some people broke down crying hahahaha strange and not even today I can but a finger on what they did other than not giving you the response you expect or no response at all. We humans are very dependent on a response good or bad depending what you done. Plus much more they did without me being able to explain because I don’t know. lisa99hunter: You are absolutely right about police and sivilvervants.i have many Jewish friends but private people did help many Jews to safely. I red a bomb of a book on Norwegian police and other indeviduals helping SS agenda many Norwegian think they are so proud and innocent that the first book on 700 padges gotta lot of criticism))) all isreaels I have meet are wonderful people and invite to friendship. And I know that it’s hard for Israel to deal with such a distrctive group as Hamas they destroy much for the palestaine people to. I never been but it’s really high on my list I respect you more than you know and actually like to know you better and be your friend here.sorry for offended you. But Norwegian farmers and ordenary people did contribute to help. Norway often have a almost ignorant relationship with the wrong things they have done. The treatment of Norwegian war sailors are one of the darkest characters in after war history in Norway. Still today there is a few alive and they have never really gotten the apology they deserve. No country is perfect. Your people have been through perhaps the darkest human distraction of all human histoty. Perhaps that’s my motevation to explore profterteres of holocost even many have apologized. I feel with you and think all human conflict is sad. Isn’t some of the land and disegrements there very old? Like going back to Jesus time? I’m asking because I don’t know. My friends in Florida might be under avrige because they know nothing about anything you learn in school. But being born in America and are a citizen all my life I sense different cultural opinions on many things I don’t like. You agree? I’m not so dumb as you make me and I’m also sorry and hope you forgive me. Like my dad says young people like you referring to me is dumb by nature)) hope we can have some more constructive and kind conversations and I’m interested to learn more from you. Lisa (Post deleted by staff ) lisa99hunter: Yes you are right the people I know that have been there saw Israels and Pakistani people being friends and do nice things in absolutely peace lisa99hunter: thanks for forgiving me some stupid comments I’m still learning to see consequences of what I say sometimes still young and dumb sometimes. Apologize again alexgal9999999: palestine is a word invented by the romans... serving most of the middle east resurrection of this term by the original terrorist yasser arafat..... in a new arab land grab THIS LAND IS OURS GOD GAVE THIS LAND TO US ISRAELITES EXODUS I AM ROMAN CATHOLIC PRACTISING 8 YRS ANGLICIAN THE ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE MOSLEMS OWN NONE WE HAVE HAD THE OPINION OF A BLACK SUPER POWER LEADER HOW DID THAT WORK OUT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DR BEN CARSON COULD YOU IMAGINE THE THINGS THIS INTELLIGENT EDUCATED GENIUS WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED OBAMA WANTED PARTITION alexgal9999999: REINVENT HISTORY ALL YOU LIKE LEFTIES THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PALESTINIAN THESE PEOPLE WANT THE WORLD NOT JUST ISRAEL  TheCovenant: I thought there would be more water in Israel. They seem to have a problem in processing all the manure generated by the people and livestock because of it. Oh well thats shit for ya. (Edited by TheCovenant)  davidk14: . No, you are wrong. The Israeli system of government is based on parliamentary democracy just like Britain. Britain is also parliamentary democracy. So Britain is a police state? Your ignorance is showing..  terryanderson1986: these are not lefties ... lefty is that commie worshiping putins punk trump. What is a palestinian?A just a jordanian who lost a war... that they think they have a say about Jerusalem is crazy... I don't see them in the bible or in any period of history in the fight over jeruselem till the jordanians lost the war.... | Politics Chat Room 82 People Chatting Similar Conversations |