Anti-semitism (Page 2) yawaar: you are the most uninformed person out there. not sure how old are you. you say zionism is dead?? see this http://zoa.org. The fact is there are very small fraction of muslims who are terrorist created by the western world. to say 1% of muslims are terrorist is share exaggeration. the 53 organizations does not have 24 million members. we need to educate the world that israel is not judaism, israel the oppressor is zionism. criticism of israel is not anti-semitism. israel is the brain child of zionist who happens to be jews like some of the terrorist are muslims. foosquad: There certainly are many dozens of Islamic extremist organizations worldwide, but that does not and will not ever justify blanket discrimination against hundreds of millions of other Muslims on the basis of the actions of a minority. There are also Christian, Hindu, and Jewish extremists, but that will also never justify prejudice against the majorities of those groups. Individuals are responsible for their own actions only and should not be held liable for the actions of others with whom they may simply happen to share a race, religion, or nationality.  davidk14: . Um....are you to trying to say...um... You have got to stop believing in the propaganda. How many of these extremists are in Somalia alone? Let's look at this with facts....ok? According to a 2010 study and released January 2011,Islam has 1.57 billion adherents, making up over 23% of the world population. (Note: I’ve seen numbers up to 2.4 billion but for this post, I accept the 1.6 billion.) Take a looksy at the chart the attached website produced and notice the populations of the Islamic countries. In 2010 there were 49 Muslim-majority countries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country And after you look at this chart, will you still ‘… d i s a g r e e …’ that 99% of the Muslim world is peace loving? I may be a wishful thinker. Oh…and did you know that Iran can place 11 million Islamic troops in the field all by themselves? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran And it would be hard for any sane person to disagree that IRAN: ….has publicly stated numerous times that Israel should cease to exist ….funds and provides weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah ….working on nukes to use on Israel. IRAN is just one country of 49 Islamic countries. Do forget the 54+ known Islamic extremist terrorist organizations who reside on Muslim lands. Now with the 11 million Islamists radical extremists in Iran, that is about 50 percent of the 1%. Can you now say that the out of the rest of the billions of Muslims, less than .5% is not militant? And if you can say yes with a straight face… ..whatever… Seriously. And once again, I'm extremely hopeful that 99% of the Muslim world is peace loving of all peoples no matter what their gender, their race, creed, color, national origin, or religion. . . . foosquad: Iran's 11 million troops should no more count as "11 million radical extremists" than IDF's 3 million deployable troops should count as "3 million radical extremists". There are various reasons for anyone to join their country's armed forces, from patriotism to family tradition to a better standard of living, but it should not be assumed that one is a religious extremist for doing so, even if their country is a religious state. yawaar: moreover it is compulsory in middle eastern countries to serve in armed forces. you are mislead and you are misleading david. i argued with you before and i believe it is waste of time to argue with you. back to the topic, i feel anti-semitism is declining, anti zionist and anti israel sentiments are on rise. we saw this during the last war, from united nations to most of the part of the world the anti israel rallies had many participants. i was pleased to see the london rally. the minister in uk who resigned.. these are great developments and it signifies the reversal and down fall of oppressors. i hope we have 2 state solution on 1967 borders as recommended by president obama, this will further help to minimize anti-semitism. many think israel represent jew more so after the resolution in israel parliament to recognize israel as jewish state like iran or saudi arabia as islamic state. it is sad to see israel standing with saudi arabia and iran as theologically controlled state. Outbackjack: Don't worry everyone.Davidk has been using his 1% of Muslims are terrorists statistic for years.I would like to see a real statistic. I have had a look at this list of Islamic terrorist organisations and I have to say that these jumped out at me: Kurdistan Workers Party Tamil Tigers National Liberation Army ELN Revolutionary Struggle None of these are even Muslim.Where did you copy and paste this false list? But after that there is this beauty: Kahane Chai (Kach) These are actually a Zionist terrorist organisation. davidk14: . Jack said: Don't worry everyone.Davidk has been using his 1% of Muslims are terrorists statistic for years. David responds: Thanks for following. The important part which Jack has kindly noted, what I have been saying for years is that 99% of all Muslims are peace loving just as are the 99% of Jews and Christians. No one has challenged my 99% since everyone knows, 100% is perfect….and we all know that perfect is impossible. And that my friends, 99% approval rating is as good as it gets. Some may disagree that 99% of Muslims are peace loving culture however; I believe that the 99% are wonderful, peace loving, family oriented members of the second largest religion in the world. Jack said: None of these [terrorist organizations] are even Muslim.Where did you copy and paste this false list? David responds: The information came from the US State Department list of terrorist organizations. I thought I had removed all non-Muslim related terrorist organizations. The list did not distinguish between religions or political affiliations. David continues: So now that is all cleared up… . Outbackjack: There is such a thing as fractions and decimals. You can have 99 and three quarters percent which would become 99.75% .You can even have 99.99999999999999%. How about some accurate figures on this Davidk and not some guesswork? I find it highly amusing that you named a Zionist terrorist organisation in the 5 groups you got wrong.Come on Davidk we all make mistakes but a bit more research is needed by you and not just guesswork. Seems as though the U.S government is now funneling arms and money to the Kurdistan workers party to fight I.S.I.S .Does this mean that the state departments list of terrorist organisations is wrong or is it just the U.S turning a blind eye to terrorism to protect the corporate oil wells in Northern Iraq? davidk14: . Jack said: There is such a thing as fractions and decimals. You can have 99 and three quarters percent which would become 99.75% .You can even have 99.99999999999999%. David responds: Of course you can move numbers to the right of a decimal point. However Jack, if you have one hundred human beings, no such thing as decimals. I believe that out of 100 Muslims, 99 of them are wonderful, peaceful human beings. Because we all know, no such thing as perfect. Jack said: How about some accurate figures on this Davidk and not some guesswork? David responds: Of course you can move numbers to the right of a decimal point. However Jack, if you have one hundred human beings, no such thing as decimals. I believe that out of 100 Muslims, 99 of them are wonderful, peaceful human beings. Because we all know, no such thing as perfect. Jack said: I find it highly amusing that you named a Zionist terrorist organisation in the 5 groups you got wrong.Come on Davidk we all make mistakes but a bit more research is needed by you and not just guesswork. David responds: Please read my last response which you obviously did not read. Of course you find it amusing, or you wish the readers would find it amusing however Jack, you missed the point. There are dozens and dozens and dozens of fundamentalist, Islamic terror organizations whose goal is to make the world Islamic. There is no question this information from the United States State Department official list of terror organizations or the goals and motives of these fundamentalist, Islamist militant organizations. I’m positive most sane readers of this thread understand the threat. The information to support this is readily available. Jack said: Seems as though the U.S government is now funneling arms and money to the Kurdistan workers party to fight I.S.I.S .Does this mean that the state departments list of terrorist organisations is wrong or is it just the U.S turning a blind eye to terrorism to protect the corporate oil wells in Northern Iraq? David responds: It’s all about security with political and economic power at stake. You can twist what you want. The US is shaking hands once again with the devil even under the current most progressive, liberal administration probably in history. For six years this administration told the world it was leaving the Middle East. They….went …..nuts. ISIS is gaining land, munitions, oil and most importantly, personnel, including pilots. The land under ISIS control is Syrian and Iraqi land. They are minting their own currency. And the US did nothing serious to stop this empire. Just one of dozens and dozens of Islamic terrorist organizations. There’s no denying this. Let’s not forget the world also watched as Islamic fundamentalists gained power, land and treasure. Sure, the US is now doing some bombing with only minimal boots on the ground. Some say this is enough military intervention. Not so. Ask the Israeli’s if they had done enough to knock out Hamas with airstrikes. Even with ground intervention, Hamas still exists. ISIS is even more brutal than Hamas and much better armed, are well financed and recruitment has been steady. Does anyone really believe the minimal military the US has mustered is going to even slow ISIS down? They are in a panic. The budget is out of control, the debt is now at $18 trillion and a proper declared war right now is inconcevable with the current moral of this country, and a Declared War Declaration is what it would probably take to overwhelm ISIS and its minions. And ISIS this just one Islamic terrorist organization. Now multiply this by dozens of Islamic terrorist organizations whose goal is for an Islamic world. I'm sure many agree with me. . yawaar: who is reading huge posts?? the question on forum was simple "Why does anti semitism run rampant in all countries in the world?" Answer is simple, people confuse Israel as representative of jews. The actions of Israel is not defendable. We need to disassociate Israel and Judaism. Israel represent fraction of jews who are zionist. we need to educate the world that israel and judaism is different. Outbackjack: So you still don't having any real statistics just your belief that it is 99%. My son still believes in Santa and I am sure if he was ever implicated in a terrorist attack he would defend him to his last breath.I am not going to bother with this boring merry go round with you. You just summed the whole thing up by stating it's a belief and not fact. I will start a new thread just for you.It's based on real statistics by your very own F.B.I and Europol. It's called :Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t "It’s all about security with political and economic power at stake. You can twist what you want. The US is shaking hands once again with the devil even under the current most progressive, liberal administration probably in history. " The U.S government is the devil.They created and armed I.S.I.S just like they did with the mujahadeen a few decades ago and now they are arming the terrorist P.K.K. The U.S IS THE PROBLEM! "Just one of dozens and dozens of Islamic terrorist organizations. There’s no denying this." You had me very worried here.I thought you were going to produce another dodgy list. davidk14: . Before I flip out...yawaar...Israel is a Jewish country, created my Jews...for Jews. It is known as the Jewish State of Israel. Now, let me say this once more...Israel is a Jewish country, created by Jews...for Jews. So, for you to say that Israel and Judaism is different...is incorrect. . davidk14: . Outback said: So you still don't having any real statistics just your belief that it is 99%. David responds: Do you believe that 99 out of a hundred Muslims are not peaceful? Do you honestly believe that 100 out of 100 Muslims are peace loving, family oriented individuals? Of course you don’t. Only a moron would believe that. Outback said: My son still believes in Santa and I am sure if he was ever implicated in a terrorist attack he would defend him to his last breath.I am not going to bother with this boring merry go round with you. You just summed the whole thing up by stating it's a belief and not fact. David responds: I’m sure, if your son believed that Santa was implicated in a terrorist attack, before your son picked up his AK47, you would sit him down and tell him the truth. Your truth…that it’s not Santa that is the terrorist…but it’s the Jews that are the terrorists. Outback said: I will start a new thread just for you.It's based on real statistics by your very own F.B.I and Europol. It's called :Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t "It’s all about security with political and economic power at stake. You can twist what you want. The US is shaking hands once again with the devil even under the current most progressive, liberal administration probably in history. " David responds: Let me stop you right here. I investigated the crux of your argument: Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t.” Jack, it comes from loonwatch.com which is a web-site created to promote Islam…and only Islam. Of course it is going to be once sided as anyone with an ounce of smart would expect. I continued my research and found this. It is an article from the progressive, ultra left wing news agency Daily KOS. “…After over a year of communication with Loonwatch.com in the making of "Not Welcome" I have come to the realization that this organization is fundamentally a radical Islamic front, covering up for terrorism, spreading distorted information about the reality of rapidly spreading Islamic fundamentalism - through lies of omission. To tell a half truth is to tell a lie and the lie that Loonwatch.com tells everyday is to cover up the atrocities within Islam and only focus on attacking its critics. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/15/1054856/-Loonwatch-com-and-Radical-Islam# Outback said: The U.S government is the devil.They created and armed I.S.I.S just like they did with the mujahadeen a few decades ago and now they are arming the terrorist P.K.K. The U.S IS THE PROBLEM! David responds: No, the USA is not the problem. The problem here is that there are those in Islam that want to rule the world. These radical fundamentalist Islamists have said it, they believe it, they cut peoples heads off, they stone women to death, they crucify those that do not accept Islam. It’s not me saying this…they are proud of this and tell the world as offend as possible. The problem Jack, is that the US isn’t doing enough. Islam is not doing enough. There are 20+ Islamic countries. If the 99% wanted to wipe out the murderous 1%... it would happen. Any one with a ounce of common sense knows this. Jack said: "Just one of dozens and dozens of Islamic terrorist organizations. There’s no denying this." You had me very worried here.I thought you were going to produce another dodgy list. David responds: I can produce mountains of data Jack. You still can’t accept the facts that 99% of Muslims are peace loving individuals that I believe exist. The 99% need to get rid of the 1% instead of the USA and other Western countries doing it. That has been the problem Jack. The Islamic countries have quadrillions of dollars, have what is needed to do the job…but they don’t. Now why is that Jack? It's only 1% and you believe, less than 1%. David continues: As I continued my research, I found this. It is an article from the progressive, ultra left wing news agency Daily KOS. “…After over a year of communication with Loonwatch.com in the making of "Not Welcome" I have come to the realization that this organization is fundamentally a radical Islamic front, covering up for terrorism, spreading distorted information about the reality of rapidly spreading Islamic fundamentalism - through lies of omission. To tell a half truth is to tell a lie and the lie that Loonwatch.com tells everyday is to cover up the atrocities within Islam and only focus on attacking its critics. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/15/1054856/-Loonwatch-com-and-Radical-Islam# . yawaar: what about United States David?? Is it a white country created by white for white?? whats wrong with this notion?? i am sure you are anti klan or you support KKK?? we should not call israel as democracy it is shame on democracy, it is theology based state like saudi arabia. world will repent if this continues. israel is displacing the innocent just because they believe and follow a different religion. this land grabbing should stop.. Outbackjack: More 99% rubbish from Davidk. "I can produce mountains of data Jack. " But you never actually do. You don't have any facts.At all.We are done here until you produce any. "I’m sure, if your son believed that Santa was implicated in a terrorist attack, before your son picked up his AK47, you would sit him down and tell him the truth. Your truth…that it’s not Santa that is the terrorist…but it’s the Jews that are the terrorists." I would say the above statement is quite sad.But in your case it's downright pathetic. Loonwatch is an anti hate group to expose the ignorance idiots like you have about Muslims. The statistics quoted (see that Davidk.Quoted statistics.Not made up beliefs) are from your very own FBI and Europol. Daily Kos are not an ultra left group.They are a social democratic group that support the Democrats in the U.S.This means they are centre left or centrist and a part of the political establishment (and part of the problem). I am done here with you Davidk for the time being because you are a complete waste of my time.You have been caught out putting up your 99% belief statistic and even a false list of Muslim groups.You were even too stupid to recognise that one of the groups was a Jewish terrorist organisation. I see you haven't come over to the other thread that I made just for you: Topic: Politics Why? Is it because the statistics quoted (see that Davidk.Quoted statistics.Not made up beliefs) by the FBI show THAT THERE WERE MORE TERRORIST ATTACKS COMMITTED ON U.S SOIL BY JEWISH TERROR GROUPS THAN MUSLIM TERRORIST GROUPS BETWEEN 1980-2005???? davidk14: . Once again Jack, you are drinking the Kool Aid. How about this OFFICIAL report from the United States Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Program Transnational Threats Project. Give it a good read and get back to me. Here's the website: http://csis.org/files/publication/120425_Pregulman_AQAMCaseStudy7_web.pdf Oh, and please post the FBI website where you got the information. I'm such a klutz...I can't find it....thanks. ____________________________________ Yahwar...Go to this link http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Politics/Basic_Law_Human_Dignity_and_Liberty.html and type in the search bar if needed: Basic Laws of Israel: Human Dignity and Liberty If you think this is what it is like in Saudi Arabia, you havn't a clue what's going on over there. . (Post deleted by yawaar ) yawaar: Basic Laws of Israel: Human Dignity and Liberty, what ???? someone is drinking cool aid.. considering palestinian life as low and useless is human dignity?? Israel is the occupier who has occupied the property of palestinian. zionist who respect the law agrees that israel has no respect for human dignity.. yawaar: Amnesty international --> transferring weapon to the consistent violator of human right is illegal under international law. israel is a consistent violator of human rights therefore transferring weapon to israel is an illegal act. there has to be a comprehensive arms embargo in israel. US is by far the biggest supplier of weapon to israel, supplying the weapon to israel is not only illegal under international law but also under domestic law. what is happening to palestinian is because of US (my) tax dollars. Not my words Amnesty international report.. http://publish.dvlabs.com/democracynow/ipod/dn2014-1210.mp4 yawaar: is this what you call a logical argument?? I thought I gave you the logical argument why israel is a theological State with no respected for human rights and international laws. anyways, i respect your silence. davidk14: . You gave no argument. You just showed your ignorance, and once agin, I am tired ignorant people like yourself. I might respond seriously, but right now, your ignorance is deafening. . Outbackjack: Just ignore him Yawaar. He fails to see his own irony and hypocrisy.It's like dealing with a petulant child who has eaten too much sherbet.Don't waste your time. | Politics Chat Room 79 People Chatting Similar Conversations |