JFK 50 years and still people believe conspiracies. (Page 6)

davesdatahut: It is very tempting, given all that was happening at that time and given Oswald's shady life, to suspect a conspiracy. And a conspiracy there may have been. But there's no evidence of it other than tantalizing clues and theories, which leaves nothing hard to go with.

chronology: dhasty1949. Lee Oswald was certainly capable of committing such a crime without any assistance or help from anyone, the facts as we have them point to one man with a rifle taking advantage of an irresistible opportunity to further his beliefs. dhasty1949, may I suggest you listen to interviews Lee Oswald gave on Radio and T.V. before the assassination. Listen to how Lee has appointed himself as the defender of Cuba, the man indignant at American involvement in Cuban Politics, the man who has appointed himself as the 'Secretary' of the 'Fair Play for Cuba' Committee. After reflecting on Lee's own words, do you still find it hard to believe such a man would not acting on his 'own time and own Dime' would be able to resist the once in a life time opportunity to kill the man he believed responsible for Cuba's problems?

The more you reflect on Lee Oswald's mental and political disposition, the more you see the 'lone gunman' is exactly what he was, the self appointed judge of American Society and politics.

Lori thinks some of us are ignoring the snippets of theories, (because that is all they are Lori, no disrespect) that she presents. We are not, they are simply paranoid speculation. If Lori were to confront me about evidence she had gathered about the 'Son of Sam' killings, especially the last murder, I would have to concede she had raised points that need to be examined. In the JFK death there are no points at all that need examining, they have been examined 'ad nauseum' over and over for decades and found to be nonsense.

lori100: What did Lyndon Johnson do when he replaced Kennedy in office?
Reversed all the policies on Vietnam, interest-free money and the CIA which Kennedy was implementing

davesdatahut: What does that prove, Lori?

lori100: Johnson followed orders that Kennedy wouldn't .....which is why they got rid of Kennedy.....

davesdatahut: And the proof of that is where? Or is this supposition to connect dots that may or may not be connected? And who is 'they'?

lori100: They---illuminati who control bankings, wars, govts, corporations, media------------On my conspiracy thread ---info about Abraham Lincoln,Andrew Jackson, Garfield, Kennedy and congressmen who were against the Federal Reserve and Rothschild's control of debt and banking-------why they were killed ...(or attempted)--------------also shows Rothschild's banker wars and funding to establish Rothschild Central Banks in all countries...only 3 left now without a Roth Central Bank---------------John F. Kennedy --------- President John F. Kennedy planned to exterminate the Federal Reserve System. In 1963 he signed Executive Orders EO-11 and EO-110, returning to the government the responsibility to print money, taking that privilege away from the Federal Reserve System.<http://www.servelec.net/lincoln.htm#10>10 Shortly thereafter, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated--------.<http://www.servelec.net/lincoln.htm#11>11 --------The professional, triangulated fire that executed the President of the United States is not the most shocking issue. The high- level coordination that organized the widespread coverup is manifest evidence of the incredible power of a "hidden government" behind the scenes. (Sound preposterous? Read Kill Zone, by Craig Roberts for an update on the events in Dealey Plaza.)

davesdatahut: My question remains: Where is there anything beyond speculation that Oswald did not act alone. Not speculation. Not conspiracy theories. Evidence. Hard evidence.
I am one who believes it is possible that there was a conspiracy. But I also believe it is possible that there was not and that Oswald acted alone. Given that not a single soul in 50 years has presented hard evidence of the former, I lean toward the latter.
The ballistics testing, meanwhile, suggests extremely strongly that there was only one shooter.

lori100: Why was Bush Sr. ---then in the CIA ----at the library deposit steps the day of the assassination?.......a coincidence?------------------------

davesdatahut: I don't know why. Do you know why? Maybe it was a coincidence. Maybe it wasn't. Again, hard evidence. What is the hard evidence of a conspiracy?

lori100: I am sure Bush and the Cia were part of it.....and conspiracies are subtle....you have to connect the dots....the same people, the same organizations, the same crimes.....---------------------------"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson
The New Freedom (1913), Doubleday

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"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution.



It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
Winston Churchill

"Zionism versus Bolshevism", Illustrated Sunday Herald (London), February 8, 1920, pg. 5

davesdatahut: How are you sure Bush was part of it? Who have you been talking to that others have not?
I am aware that conspiracies are subtle. I am also aware that one must be extremely careful when accusing someone of conspiracy to commit murder, as this is an extremely serious charge, especially conspiracy to murder the president.
So when you say you are sure the Bush was part of this murder, where is your evidence?

lori100: I have no evidence of Bush ......only research into the CIA and the Bush family/Nazi connections which I have posted many times... I posted pic of Bush SR. with Mengele.....Mengele-CIA-Rockefeller-Nazi-mind control abuses-----Mengele perfected mind control in the camps, adopted by CIA---Clinton apologized for mind control abuses.by the CIA---..-.Bush follows orders and became the head of the CIA.....see my CIA thread for the crimes of the CIA.....

lori100: see Bush grin at "deluded gunman"----------------------

chronology: Lori, as much as we all respect you here, honestly these Posts are yours are pure imagination and speculation, not one fact, just your subjective opinion. You are lucky the C.I.A. takes an understanding view of people like yourself and does not sue you in Court. Trust me Lori, if they took you to Court you would loose your case and find yourself bankrupted by having to pay compensation to people you have horribly defamed. As it is the C.I.A. probably hope you find your feet and eventually find yourself.

lori100: apology on CIA mind control and other abuses--------------

davidk14: .

Now, now...we all know that the CIA would water board Lori100 well before taking her to court.






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dhasty1949: I think lori's posts have as much credibility as any of the others. I am not a lawyer how ever that does not mean that I am blind to some of the miscarriages of Justice. The liable and slander laws are written so that the government can be publicly critiqued.Let the people beware of what they choose to believe from the media.Before the days of TV Randolph Hearst said " the people will believe what I tell them to believe."and JP Morgan once said " to hell with the law I have the power." I think it is called an oligarchy. I am a skeptic until it comes to big money at which point I become a pure cynic.

lori100: Thanks dhasty......here are the puppets reading their scripts....-----------

lori100: This has been attributed to David Rockefeller and GHW Bush......either one....------------“In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interests, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influencial newspapers in the Unted States and a sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press of the United States. “These 12 men worked the problem out by selecting 179 newspapers, and then began, by an elimination process, to retain only those necessary for the purpose of controlling the general policy of the daily press throughout the country. They found it was only necessary to purchase the policy, national and international, of these papers; an agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.”

dhasty1949: Puree of eloquent media rhetoric.

chronology: Lori my dear girl, here you go again. A Guy once commented that the real problem with the Media in America, and most other countries, began when they became so reliant on Advertising sales. When a story is written up the Editor takes a little time to consider how this could affect advertising revenue.

But that is a different Ball Game from suggesting '12 men decided to take over American Media'. Even John Kennedy would have trouble swallowing that. At a meal one time with some Washington Press friend he asked if it was true that such and such a Newspaper was about to be sold. The Media Guy said 'yes', JFK looked a little gloomy afterwards as the buyer was known to be hostile to his stewardship of the Democratic Party.

Lori, if American Media was one big circus rigged to hoodwink Americans, why would JFK even bother to ask about who was planning to buy any Newspaper?.

lori100: Some are controlled more than others.......how about the news video^^^^^?

chronology: 'Economic factors may take some spring out of the East Bunnies step this year'. The Media can be puzzling at times. When Jack the Ripper killed one of his victims, a Newspaper in London gave her name as 'Mary Kelly', that was odd because Mary Kelly had not been killed yet by the Ripper, and would not be for a few weeks..

What matters to most Americans is the price of Gasoline at the Pumps, the Price of Medical Insurance, their job security, the quality of their spare time, but that is not 'News' Lori, it hurts folks like hell when they are unemployed, but it is not 'eye candy' for News Stations. What does grab the attention of Americans is when a bus crashes into a wall, then all News Teams in the region descend on the crash site and 'give the spiel' saying more or less the same thing.

A story few News Teams ever go near is the possible return of the 'Gold Standard' by the U.S. Woodrow Wilson had America on a 'personal Gold Standard' where any American could walk into a Bank and ask for a dollars worth of Gold for his dollar note. FDR placed America on the National Gold Standard where America as a Nation held Gold in amounts to it's dollars. Mr Nixon ended this fascination with metal and created the Modern U.S. dollar and also the 'Petro Dollar' which is the agreement that only U.S. dollars be used to buy and sell oil. If America goes back to Gold Standard, the effect on property prices in the U.S. could be catastrophic, the blow back from having heaps of Gold is that people loose interest in investing in property and 'buy' money, so the price of your home could fall through the floor if Gold Standard returns. Personally I would not like to explain to American Moms how their homes suddenly lost half their value overnight. But fear not Lori, Washington has no plans to change the dollar, so your home value is not threatened unless the Tea Party wins the next election.

dhasty1949: I would like to be able to by a house, with a couple of sea shells, and retire on a chunk of igneous rock. As it is i need a co-signer for a dirt clod. Let's go to the vacuum standard. The Rothchilds will jump with joy.