JFK 50 years and still people believe conspiracies. (Page 4)
I think that is because Kennedy was so deformed, he wore a corset to keep him standing, that some people might have thought the limo was ' racking him up' as it drove around the towns, that plus the Republican bad mouths working the bars and clubs saying ' Kennedy has got no friends around here ' and so people avoided taking care of it. Which is of course a conspiracy.
chronology: dhast1949. You are joking right? At Parkland Hospital, hours after the shooting the Limo was washed clean with buckets of water and cloths, a week later it was flown to an undisclosed location and crushed, Dallas PD never even had a chance to inspect it once. Again, no 'conspiracy' just different Government Departments not realising they had destroyed Detectives Crime Scene evidence. Doctors at Parkland protested strongly, some say they told the Secret Service 'Texas style' what they thought of their actions in removing the body of JFK, but all to no avail.
This would not happen again, there are protocols in place now to prevent Detectives being hampered in their work.
The limo was ' lost ' from the govt records.
Ol' Kennedy first thought to appear on TV riding a motorbike!
davesdatahut: New revelations suggest strongly that it was The Rolling Stones that did it, then went on to write about it in Ruby Tuesday. The government attempted to zip their mouths up by forcing them to produce an album with a zipper on it. But Mick Jagger refused to keep quiet and proceeded to marry Bianca Pérez-Mora Macias, a Nicaraguan national who, it has only recently been determined, had close ties to The Monkees, who had a secret ownership stake in the company that ran Jack in the Box restaurants - a clear reference to Jack Kennedy.
This can be all be found by playing The Monkees song Daydream Believer backwards. Or in the same direction that the Kennedy limo went through Dealey Plaza.
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dhasty1949: The plot has thickened and coagulated so hard you could roller skate on it. Was it a rumor i heard that the real truth of the story would be published some time in the year 2060?
davesdatahut: It is true. But it will be published in quarter- and half-truths beginning right here on Wireclub and continuing on websites developed and maintained by foreign agents and several women named Ruby. First teaser - Kennedy ate at McDonald's before getting in the limo. Then he began asking the Secret Service for cookies. This is why the Secret Service agent in the video is throwing up his hands. There were boxes and boxes of cookies in the Secret Service limo. But they refused to give them up. To be continued....
chronology: dhasty1949. And let's face it, no plot is complete without sex and romance and frustrated love of two love birds, albeit adulterous fornicating birds.
Judyth Baker claims to have been in a sexual relationship with Lee when he was in New Orleans, she has never provided any proof of such a hot passion filled fling in 'The Big Easy' so why believe her? Well some people do because she can more or less place herself in the same District as Lee and as a commuter on the same Bus to work, apart from that, she has nothing going for her story. How true her story is is anyones guess, as is her claim to have worked in a 'Top Secret U.S. Government Plot' (hey ho here we go again) to kill Mr Castro using cancer cells. Judyth's story takes some believing, especially as she has never provided proof to support it, but the former College 'Whiz Girl' from South Bend claims she is telling the truth. If she did know Lee, however tentatively, her story may explain some puzzeling reports of a man supposedly impersonating Lee and a woman impersonating his wife Marina. Marina insists she was never in any of the places she is said to have been by some witnesses, but Judyth has said she spoke Russian, and dressed like Marina, hmmmmmm, no wonder the FBI were often running up against dead ends in their investigations.
Some folks tho write off Judyth's story as improbable given the scrutiny placed on Lee's every move in New Orleans. So those hot passionate sweaty nights in Louisiana may only exist in Judyth's mind.
dhasty1949: Maybe Marilyn Monroe did it because he jilted her. It would make no difference whether or not she was dead or alive at the time wouldn't it?
DawnGurl: Leave Marilyn out of this. She was busy having an affair with Mohatma Ghandi and had no time for JFK.
fretjammer: My thought - it's pretty easy to dispute facts without proof of another reality. If there was proof that someone else killed JFK or who else committed the acts on 9/11, someone, please put it all out there. As more research is done the Warren Commission findings, as flawed as the investigation may have been, is more proven not less.
What really pisses me off as a military retiree is that Americans would think that anyone in the military would sacrifice the lives of the people we serve. I have much more faith in our military than that. Mistakes can be made when the government puts the Army out as policemen (which they are not trained for or good at) but that's very different than something like 9/11.
fretjammer: And....the limo was used for years by other presidents including Nixon and is now in the Ford museum.
dhasty1949: that sounds right about the limo, perhaps i miss read the comment about it being destroyed, however i do not think Kennedy was shot from behind, nor was Oswald the only person involved in this whole matter.
chronology: fretjamer. Interesting post. According to Mae Brussell, who was an obsessive and conscientious researcher, JFKs Limo used in Dallas was flown to some location and crushed one week after the assassination, probably to prevent souvenir hunters stripping the vehicle. But like you say Ford Museum claim to have the car in their display. We will probably never know if it was the actual Limo. A Private Detective solved the riddle of James Deans 'vanished' car wreck by checking the weight receipts for Bridges the Truck that claimed to have the car on board received when transporting it to California. When checking the receipts and comparing the weight of the truck the P.I. concluded the James Dean car never left Florida, the truck was empty the entire journey. It probably lies in some Guys garden out in the countryside, he just never got around to selling it quietly.
I think it amounted to a cover up--of the condition of the road and the fact the car had to be taken apart to remove the body.
dhasty1949: Free" rifle" range for magic bullets to do loop the loops, Has any government in history ever lied or misled it's people?
chronology: dhasty1949 with respect, have you ever looked at the investigation of 'the Magic Bullet'? you can see many experiments and demonstrations on Youtube, and read reports on the Web. One such demonstration of a Bullet like Oswald's being shot through a Pigs cadaver produced virtually identical ballistics results.
Another 'conspiracy theory' of JFKs murder fell flat on it's face when it was finally proven by examination of photographs that the Dallas Police Motorcycle was not in the position it was needed to be for the so called 'acoustic recording' to be valid. Photographs clearly show the Motorcycle no where near the spot at the moment Oswald began firing. The Motorcycle Officer to this day insists he never had his radio on permanent send anyway; 'I could not care less what they claim, my Radio was not jammed on during the shooting' he stated.
Sorry, but as time goes by, all the JFK crazy theories just vanish like mist in the morning.
davesdatahut: There was a fascinating program on PBS where some high- and low-tech ballistics tests were done, using the same model rifle and same bullets that Oswald fired. The tests showed the bullets following nearly the exact same trajectories needed to cause the injuries to Kennedy and Connolly. They also showed how the second bullet could have hit Kennedy and caused the injuries found in the autopsy report and his body movements after impact.
None of this goes to the question of whether Oswald had co-conspirators (although no proof of this has ever been offered...nothing even close). But it did show that the lone-gunman theory was highly likely to be true. Or it at least rebutted any likelihood of a second gunman.
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chronology: dave. A persistent problem with trying to asses JFKs response to the impact of the shots was that he was wearing a steel frame back brace. Tragically, the President was virtually strapped in to his seat unable to duck or dive or even twist when the shots began, the brace was just so restraining.
davesdatahut: Yes, the brace was a key factor dictating his physical reactions during the shootings.