is Israel seeing the next prophecy in the next few months-years? (Page 3)

Zanjan
Zanjan: Well, I don't suppose every single Hebrew left the country due to famine but we don't know anything about that. What we do know is that the name of this land has changed more often than Zsa Zsa Gabour changed husbands.

All these people along the eastern Mediterranean coasts frequently moved back and forth between Egypt and Lebanon/Syria since written history.

Gen 35:9-11
Then God appeared to Jacob again when he came from Paddan-aram, and He blessed him. God said to him, "Your name is Jacob; You shall no longer be called Jacob, But Israel shall be your name." Thus He called him Israel. God also said to him, "I am God Almighty; Be fruitful and multiply; A nation and a company of nations shall come from you, And kings shall come forth from you.…

Jacob is the grandson of Abraham......He is said to be another progenitor (Prophet) of God's religion because God set a new Covenant with Him. Therefore, if tradition follows, the new name of Israel's religion would not have been the Hebrew Faith but Faith of Israel. So, in this sense you'd be right, Ghost, especially if everyone in the land actually belonged to this same faith.

However, this view is a bit problematic to me. You see, it appears to me that God had the *identical* Covenant with Abraham, in which case, it wouldn't be a new Covenant, and Jacob would be a lesser Prophet in the same Hebrew religion. We have no evidence that Jacob was a Revelator, only a follower. Next to nothing is known about that religion but it likely had priests. As you know, Jacob fathered 12 sons, which became 12 tribes. This is their ethnic background.

The Israelites were a physical blood line PLUS a religious denomination, not a nation. To my knowledge, at the time of Jacob and Joseph, Egypt was gradually being dominated by the Hyksos (cannanite settlers) as it was the nearing end of Middle kingdom.

Therefore, the Israelites nationality would be seen as Caananite (the country of birth is one's citizenship). Likewise, they would be viewed as Egyptian when they left during the Exodus, since that was their country of their birth. It's not surprising ancient history appears so screwed up to us. Egyptian history wouldn't have identified them as Jews because that religion was barely born.


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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I know everyone thinks the Hebrews that followed Moses were slaves born in Egypt but that doesn't seem right to me. The first nine plagues describe Egypt in the spring. Any long term resident of Egypt would have known that there was nothing special about them, but the Hebrews didn't. That suggests that they had only just arrived in the country. I'm thinking that they were recently arrived economic migrants looking for a better life.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: History records they'd been in Egypt for 400 years before Moses. I'd say they were naturalized.

What makes you think the followers of Moses were surprised by the wrath of God against Pharaoh and his ilk? I know what tornadoes are but if one hit my neighbour, Mr. X, and utterly destroyed his house but missed my house, you can bet I'd be thinking God favoured me over that guy. I'd know exactly why too.

True believers are built to endure hardship; they know that anything they suffer, God will compensate them for that. For example, if God should decree the death of my first born son, I'd accept that either as God's justice (my kid deserved it) OR the wisdom of God, pertaining to how it would benefit my family's life.

If that sounds heartless to you, rest assured it's merely detachment from the things of this world - I trust God knows what He's doing more than we do. Humans can only see outcomes just to the foot of the hill and no further. Do we criticize someone before their work is done?

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Zanjan
Zanjan: In the late 1890's, my Great Grandmother left Sweden with a broken heart but she was a strong Christian; she came to Canada on her own with her young daughter in tow. She even changed her last name to close that chapter of her life.

Something had moved her to travel thousands of miles, enduring a wretched journey, landing in Montreal with nothing in her pocket, knowing no one and unable to speak the language. How could she have known she was headed towards her greatest achievement? What she found in Canada was a very new religion and a place in history.

I wish I could tell you the rest of that story but it's likely to be lost on you all.

Suffice to say that the holy spirit is very profound; it helps people to do impossible things and go places they never imagined they'd be. If you read history back far enough, you'll see how everything was set up well in advance, divinely unfolding as it should.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Thus, everything depends on perspective - that is, from the point you're standing at this moment in your personal history, or as one of your forebearers' descendants, or as one person in the whole world.

Look carefully; you'll see that every prophecy for *Israel* has been fulfilled. Don't confuse this with the Bible's far-reaching prophecy for mankind.

You can now ask if Israel will remain as a country. Yes, it will, it's God's Holy Land; and, all its mountains belong to Him as a sign to mankind of His promise and power.
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williambatey
williambatey: 2018 is WW3, the 70 year generation prophecy fulfilled, the carching away is at the door.
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williambatey
williambatey: 2018 is WW3, the 70 year generation prophecy fulfilled, the catching away is at the door.
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williambatey
williambatey: The 3rd temple is under construction on the Holy .ount in the vacant area to the north of the dome of tbe rock.
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williambatey
williambatey: I see the Ark of the Covenant in Heaven as shown in REV 11:19
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williambatey
williambatey: Islam is the 1st horseman of destructions, the E U is the 2nd, the Vatican is the 3rd, and imam al mahdi is the 4th the antichrist.
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williambatey
williambatey: Pope Francis is the false prophet, satan himself in the flesh,he is pope peter
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williambatey
williambatey: I have seen the 4 faces of God in Mel hisedek the Mind of God, Christ the body of God, John the Soul of God and Adam the Spirit of God witnessing to Himself.
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williambatey
williambatey: The face of the Lion was Melchisedek , the face of the Ox was the Christ, thee face of the man was John, and the face of the Eagle was Adam
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williambatey
williambatey: The 4 Gospels describe the 4 faces of God.
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williambatey
williambatey: Pope Francis will endorse imam al mahdi as the coming Messiah.
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williambatey
williambatey: The graves are about to open.
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williambatey
williambatey: The battle of Armeggedon is underway.
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williambatey
williambatey: Damascus is about to be hit with the Neutron bomb.
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williambatey
williambatey: Islam worships death while Christians worship LIFE.
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williambatey
williambatey: Every single world war islam, europe nand the Vatican aligned every time to lose. Now islam, the E.U. and the Vatican are aligned again under imam al mahdi to lose the final battle for mens souls.
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williambatey
williambatey: Rivers around the world have already been turning to blood. Trumpets have already sounded the warnings. Earthquakes and Vocanoes are opening up the earth. The pit was opened in1979 in the islamic revolution..
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williambatey
williambatey: Dèmons intent on disproving the Bible are rampant on the earth., Hailstones up to 75 lbs will strike the earth. Asteroids will impact with great tsunamis. Over 2 billion people will be slaughtered in the nuclear devestation.
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williambatey
williambatey: The time is at hand.
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williambatey
williambatey: 19r8+19=1967 Fig tree prophecy fulfilled.
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williambatey
williambatey: 1948+70=2018 70 year generation prophecy fulfilled. This generation that saw Israel replated in 1 day will not pass before Christ comes in the clouds of Heaven to receive His Saints in the Rapture
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