Conspiracy Theories That Were Proven True, Conspiracy poll results (Page 8)

chronology
chronology: Lori dear girl, most Politics is Politics of 'we must set things right' which then turns into 'we have gone too far this time'. We see this perfectly with Mr Hitler in Germany. Mr Hitler came along at a time when Germany was in crisis and faced being divided by some scheming European Powers. German lands were also stolen by neighbouring States. Germany needed a hero to save her, they found their man in Mr Hitler, unfortunately he was also a conspiracy theorist about Jewish people.

Anyway, Mr Hitler more or less returned stolen lands to Germany and renegotiated the blood sucking loans strapped to Germany and began developing German Industry. But then came the invasion of Czechoslovakia. Recently discovered documents of the German Government at the time show German politicians in Berlin thought the invasion a mistake, 'we have gone too far' was the general consensus, the problem was how to withdraw. There was also the problem of asking Mr Hitler to step down. He had become a major liability to Germany with his anti Semitism and opposition to the International Financial Establishment, the U.S. Congress was drawing up plans to prosecute most of the Big American Tycoons who traded with Germany, the situation could not last.

So Lori how would you have ended the crisis? forced Mr Hitler to retire (actually he wanted to, he loved the Austrian Mountains with Eva swimming nude in their lakes), and what Politician would replace Mr Hitler? and would the International Bloodsuckers who bled Germany dry not try and sink their teeth into Germany again for a second orgy of bloodsucking?

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lori100
lori100: I would not have helped Hitler......he was funded and supplied by American and other banks, govts, corporations.....--------------"The Best Enemies Money Can Buy"----------George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was the Managing Director of the investment bank Brown Brothers, Harriman from the 1920s through the 1940s. It was Brown Brothers, in conjunction with Averell Harriman, the Rockefeller family, Standard Oil, the DuPonts, the Morgans and the Fords who served as the principal funding arm in helping to finance Adolph Hitler's rise to power starting in 1923. This included direct funding for the SS and SA channeled through a variety of German firms. Prescott Bush, through associations with the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line, Nazi banker Fritz Thyssen (pronounced Tee-sen), Standard Oil of Germany, The German Steel Trust (founded by Dillon Read founder, Clarence Dillon), and I.G. Farben, used the Union Bank Corporation to funnel vast quantities of money to the Nazis and to manage their American interests. The profits from those investments came back to Bush allies on Wall Street. Thyssen is universally regarded as having been Hitler's private banker and ultimate owner of the Union Bank Corporation.

Early support for Hitler came from Prescott Bush through the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line -- also funded by Brown Bothers -- that funneled large sums of money and weapons to Hitler's storm troopers in the 1920s.

According to Tarpley and Chaitkin, "In May 1933, just after the Hitler regime was consolidated, an agreement was reached in Berlin for the coordination of all Nazi commerce with the U.S.A. The Harriman International Company... was to head a syndicate of 150 firms and individuals, to conduct all exports from Hitler Germany to the United States."
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chronology
chronology: Lori you are fixated on American Business deals with Germany. British Companies were also dealing with them. Just before war began British companies sold Germany a fuel additive that was vital for high pressure aviation fuel used by bombers and fighter planes, the fuel was used to fuel aircraft bombing Britain a few months later.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Sounds like crap Chrono, have you got a link to prove it?
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chronology
chronology: In U.S. folklore, the story has been told, told again and retold so often it has become accepted as rock solid fact.

'Two dedicated and fearless young Pressmen take on the might of Washington and bring down President Richard Nixon', a President who has been demonised ever since. But is that the 'real' story? Not according to people who are now beginning to see Mr Nixon as a worthy American President brought down by sinister Banking Cartels enraged at his decisions on financial matters in the past, and his proposed reforms he planned to enforce in the future.

Mr Nixon had made radical reforms during his Presidency, he had taken the U.S. off the Gold Standard, which has proven to be a sensible move, a move followed by Britain a few years later, he stabilized the world currency markets by creating the 'Petrodollar' system that gave stability to the massive Oil purchasing business. According to some Theorists, Mr Nixon also planned a shake up of the American Banking System, a shake up that would bring more diversity and competition to High Street Banking. That, they claim was just the last straw for the reactionary Bankers. They planned his overthrow using Media Hysteria and sensational round the clock coverage on the new Cable News Networks. 'The rest is history' as they say. Ever since Mr Nixon left Office with his now famous sad wave from his Helicopter that carried him out of Washington, 'Big Money' and 'Big Media' have dominated the lives of American families like never before.

It is unlikely the Theory will receive much attention in the Media (can't think why), or that Americans will do anything but react with anger whenever Mr Nixon's name is mentioned, but at least it gives another perspective on America's controversial President.
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dave3974
dave3974: nixon also extended an olive branch to china -he was not that bad-
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lori100
lori100: from 2011....interesting....------------------Russia Says IMF Chief Jailed For Discovering All US Gold Is Gone

Posted by EU Times on May 31st, 2011
-----------------------------A new report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by the Federal Security Service (FSB) says that former International Monetary Fund (IMF) Chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn was charged and jailed in the US for sex crimes on May 14th after his discovery that all of the gold held in the United States Bullion Depository located at Fort Knox was ‘missing and/or unaccounted’ for.

According to this FSB secret report, Strauss-Kahn had become “increasingly concerned” earlier this month after the United States began “stalling” its pledged delivery to the IMF of 191.3 tons of gold agreed to under the Second Amendment of the Articles of Agreement signed by the Executive Board in April 1978 that were to be sold to fund what are called Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) as an alternative to what are called reserve currencies.

This FSB report further states that upon Strauss-Kahn raising his concerns with American government officials close to President Obama he was ‘contacted’ by ‘rogue elements’ within the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) who provided him ‘firm evidence’ that all of the gold reported to be held by the US ‘was gone’.

Upon Strauss-Kahn receiving the CIA evidence, this report continues, he made immediate arrangements to leave the US for Paris, but when contacted by agents working for France’s General Directorate for External Security (DGSE) that American authorities were seeking his capture he fled to New York City’s JFK airport following these agents directive not to take his cell-phone because US police could track his exact location.
-------------------------------Within the past fortnight, this report continues, Strauss-Kahn reached out to his close friend and top Egyptian banker Mahmoud Abdel Salam Omar to retrieve from the US the evidence given to him by the CIA. Omar, however, and exactly like Strauss-Kahn before him, was charged yesterday by the US with a sex crime against a luxury hotel maid, a charge the FSB labels as ‘beyond belief’ due to Omar being 74-years-old and a devout Muslim.

In an astounding move puzzling many in Moscow, Putin after reading this secret FSB report today ordered posted to the Kremlin’s official website a defense of Strauss-Khan becoming the first world leader to state that the former IMF chief was a victim of a US conspiracy. Putin further stated, “It’s hard for me to evaluate the hidden political motives but I cannot believe that it looks the way it was initially introduced. It doesn’t sit right in my head.”

Interesting to note about all of these events is that one of the United States top Congressman, and 2012 Presidential candidate, Ron Paul [photo bottom left] has long stated his belief that the US government has lied about its gold reserves held at Fort Knox. So concerned had Congressman Paul become about the US government and the Federal Reserve hiding the truth about American gold reserves he put forward a bill in late 2010 to force an audit of them, but which was subsequently defeated by Obama regime forces.

When directly asked by reporters if he believed there was no gold in Fort Knox or the Federal Reserve, Congressman Paul gave the incredible reply, “I think it is a possibility.”

Also interesting to note is that barely 3 days after the arrest of Strauss-Kahn, Congressman Paul made a new call for the US to sell its gold reserves by stating, “Given the high price it is now, and the tremendous debt problem we now have, by all means, sell at the peak.”
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lori100
lori100: This guy seems very sad there hasn't been a war with Iran yet.....they are mulling over false flag attacks to get it started......for all the doubters......-------------
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: Chem-trails finally "paid off" ???? Check this "snow" out:

http://worldtruth.tv/is-the-snow-natural-or-the-result-of-a-geo-engineered-or-harrp-attack/

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lori100
lori100: I saw the posts about that....very strange......
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lori100
lori100: It has appeared in several states.....----------
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lori100
lori100: In 1974, the CIA secretly resurfaced a sunken Soviet submarine with three nuclear-armed ballistic missiles.

The Hughes Glomar Explorer, the recovery ship designed for Project Azorian.

The CIA's secret "Project Azorian" aimed to raise a sunken Soviet submarine from the floor of the Pacific Ocean to retrieve three nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, each carrying a one megaton nuclear warhead.

With President Nixon's approval, CIA director Richard Helms placed all the plans in a secret file called "Jennifer," thus keeping the information from everyone but a select number of government officials.

After a FOIA, the NSA finally published an article from the CIA's in-house journal, Studies in Intelligence, revealing that the department succeeded in resurfacing portions of the sub, named K-129.

The CIA redacted text in these documents that prevent determining the operation's exact level of success, but the crew of the Glomar Explorer, the recovery ship, did haul contents to Hawaii for unloading.
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8. The U.S. government sold weapons to Iran, violating an embargo, and used the money to support Nicaraguan militants.

In 1985, senior officials in the Reagan administration facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, then under embargo. The government, with the National Security Council's Oliver North acting as a key player, later used the profits to fund the Contras, anti-communist rebels, in Nicaragua.

The whole situation began with seven American hostages taken by a hostile group in Lebanon with ties to Iran. Through an elaborate exchange involving Israel, the U.S. planned to sell weapons to Iran in exchange for the hostages' freedom. The situation quickly derailed, although the Lebanese did release all but two hostages.

After a leak from an Iranian, the situation finally came to light in 1986. After repeatedly denying any involvement, the Reagan administration underwent 41 days of congressional hearings, according to Brown University's research project on the scandal. They subpoenaed government documents as early as 1981 and forced declassification of others.

Reagan's involvement in and even knowledge of the situation remains unclear. The hearings never labeled the sale of weapons to Iran a criminal offense, but some officials faced charges for supporting the Contras. The administration, however, refused to declassify certain documents, forcing Congress to drop them.


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chronology
chronology: Lori. In the Movie 'Lord of War' there is a character said to be modeled on Col Oliver North, in Lord of War he is called 'Col South'. The Movie is said to be based on true events. In one scene the Lord of War finds himself being paid in kilos of Cocaine instead of the money he expected. His brother went off his head sniffing Coke around Latin America. If you are interested in that period of history 'Lord of War' is a Movie you would find interesting.
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lori100
lori100: Ty, I will check it out
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duncan124
duncan124:

Oliver north was shown to be in a motel room when he said he was an international gun runner in other counties.

In fact he was court on the security videos which were being shown in Court after a gesture at the police from a woman also leaving the building.
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lori100
lori100: HONG KONG (INTELLIHUB) — All month we have been reporting on the suspicious string of apparent suicides that have hit the financial industry. Multiple bankers have been found dead in recent weeks, all of them have been ruled suicides despite the fact that little information has been released in some of the cases.

Those who had high profile deaths, like the man who jumped from the top of the JP Morgan HQ building in Europe are highly publicized, but overall, very few details about any of these deaths have been made public. Now this week, another investment banker has jumped from a different JP Morgan HQ, on a different continent, this time in Hong Kong, China.

The fact that many of these deaths seem to be tied to JP Morgan is arousing further suspicion that there is more to this story than meets the eye.
String of suspicious deaths:

1 – William Broeksmit, 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London, on January 26th.

2- Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok on January 27th.

3 – Gabriel Magee, a 39-year-old JP Morgan employee, died after falling from the roof of the JP Morgan European headquarters in London on January 27th.

4 – Mike Dueker, 50-year-old chief economist of a US investment bank was found dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State.

5 – Richard Talley, the 57 year old founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was found dead earlier this month after apparently shooting himself with a nail gun.

6 -Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG, also died last month, however the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown.

7 – Ryan Henry Crane, a 37 year old executive at JP Morgan died in an alleged suicide just a few weeks ago. No details have been released about his death aside from this small obituary announcement at the Stamford Daily Voice.

8 - Li Junjie, 33-year-old banker in Hong Kong jumped from the JP Morgan HQ in Hong Kong this week.

Were these bankers killed for knowing too much? Were they involved in something so unethical that they killed themselves out of shame? These are the speculations that are rising in the wake of these apparent suicides.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Perhaps they saw...the beginning of the collapse....and what is coming....they just couldn't live with themselves. Wow. Something so emotional...would cause these smart individuals to commit the ultimate act and leave spouses and children, friends and family. That is really scary if you think about it.

or...


Someone is permanently removing players. But for what? Who are they?

oh...ok....reptilians.


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lori100
lori100: They may have refused illum orders......One of them shot himself multiple times with a nail gun....oops....normal method of suicide ....right?.........Making murder look like suicide is an illum. specialty....
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davidk14
davidk14: .

nice kitty

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dave3974
dave3974: the reptilians may be misunderstood any one that does not like bankers can not be all bad
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lori100
lori100: JP MORGAN Prior To The Rash Of "Jumpers" The Death Curse Got One Of Their IT Specialists... "Sudden" Heart Attack.....

Posted By: Watchman
Date: Monday, 24-Feb-2014 19:36:20 ----------
On the evening of Sunday, December 15 of last year, six weeks before the onset of the latest rash of tragic deaths of young men in their 30s employed at JPMorgan, the Pearland, Texas police received a call of a person in distress outside a Walgreens pharmacy at 6122 Broadway in Pearland. The individual in distress was Jason Alan Salais, a 34-year old Information Technology specialist who had worked at JPMorgan Chase since May 2008.

A family member confirmed to Wall Street On Parade that Salais died of a heart attack on the same evening the report of distress went in to the police. The incidence of heart attack or myocardial infarction among men aged 20 to 39 is one half of one percent of the population, according to the National Center for Health Statistics and National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, based on 2007 to 2010 data, marking this as another unusual death at JPMorgan.
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chronology
chronology: Lori. It is tragic for the families of Bank executives who die in such circumstances. It would be rash to say 'suicide' as there has to be an official inquest into these deaths. However, there are more Americans than ever working today in the financial sector of the economy. With more people in an Industry, untimely deaths will inevitably be more common.I could give an example of Hari Krishna people dying of heart attacks. Well you could say, 'that is strange, you never used to hear of Hari Krishna people dying of heart attacks', true, but there were very few of them around in the past. It is bewildering how you see anything conspiratorial in these sad events.
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lori100
lori100: I am aware of how the govt and illum operate. As with many 911 families---they didn't believe the official story and demanded a new investigation. And don't forget JPMorgan/Chase funded the Nazis as did other banks.....this is what evil they support around the world. ----------Don't forget the CIA heart attack gun....to make murder look like a heart attack.....why would they want that gun?? ...........That is how your govt works.....----------------
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chronology
chronology: Lori, with all respect dear girl, you are just doing what you always do. Whenever someone debunks your speculation with a comparison or fact, you go off down another road of thought and ignore the fact.

Lori dear, there were few employees in Banks 30 years ago, the number of employees has grown ten times in the financial sector. Inevitable there will be more sad incidents like suicide.

Am very aware people in Banking are murdered when their banks or brokerage firms go bust or are suspected of swindling people, but this happens in Asia, not America or England, we don't murder wrong doers like that, we put them in 'White Collar Prisons'. If you saw some of these Prisons you would be forgiven for thinking they are hotels not jails.

Yes the CIA did research such gadgets as 'heart attack guns etc'. But that is to develop protection methods for their staff from such weapons. Or even to provide their Agents with a painless death if they chose that rather than years of torture and detention. They used to have 'cyanide injectors', why? to kill people? no, it was so their Agents could inject themselves rather than be held in Jungle gages or be executed surrounded by jeering fanatics. Must have been a heck of a choice for some poor CIA man or woman; 'what would you prefer? a poison pill or heart attack gun?
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Lori, With you posting all these 'facts'...aren't you afraid and want to because they may come and take you away ?

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