Conspiracy Theories That Were Proven True, Conspiracy poll results (Page 4)

duncan124
duncan124:
"... caused most of the major wars of the last 200 years... "

That is obviously a fail. Conspiracy Theorists have obviously got it wrong again.

So you post tends to show that Conspiracy Theorists do not prove conspiracies to be true.
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lori100
lori100: It is true Duncan. The Illuminati control the major govts, banks, corporations, the media. They have directed the wars, funded them----both sides-----assisted them,supplied them to wreak havoc around the world. When people are trying to just survive they don't ask many questions about the govt and it's actions and plans....
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duncan124
duncan124:
You are saying the Germans not only caused the two world wars but they won them.

The Germans certainly lost the first world war. Russian historians say that even from an unbiased view point Britain did not win the first world war.

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lori100
lori100: I did not say the Germans caused and won the wars, but the U.S. banks,govt, the Bush family, the U.S. corporations did assist Hitler, fund him, supply him as did many European banks, govts, and corporations.....as they did with Saddam Hussein, and Bin Laden....
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duncan124
duncan124:
You said "They are said to have funded and in some cases caused most of the major wars of the last 200 years,.."

The Germans caused both world wars. They are very clear about it.

The Swedish banks tried to profit from the German war and have had their assets frozen. No British bank invested any money in Germany between the wars or before.

It does seem that you are trying to say the Germans were bankers. They were certainly broke and refused to pay their war repatriations after the wars and the US lent them and Japan millions after the war.

Even the Portuguese newspapers have recently said the Merkel was waiting to tell them how much their new bailout would cost!


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lori100
lori100: 24.


1919 World Series Conspiracy:

The 1919 World Series (often referred to as the Black Sox Scandal) resulted in the most famous scandal in baseball history. Eight players from the Chicago White Sox (nicknamed the Black Sox) were accused of throwing the series against the Cincinnati Reds. Details of the scandal remain controversial, and the extent to which each player was involved varied. It was, however, front-page news across the country when the story was uncovered late in the 1920 season, and despite being acquitted of criminal charges (throwing baseball games was technically not a crime), the eight players were banned from organized baseball (i.e. the leagues subject to the National Agreement) for life. There are hundreds of other conspiracies involving throwing games, sporting matches and large scale entertainment events. It is common knowledge for many, this list would have to go into the thousands if we included all of them.
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Karen Silkwood:

Karen was an American labor union activist and chemical technician at the Kerr-McGee plant near Crescent, Oklahoma, United States. Silkwood’s job was making plutonium pellets for nuclear reactor fuel rods. After being hired at Kerr-McGee, Silkwood joined the Oil, Chemical & Atomic Workers Union local and took part in a strike at the plant. After the strike ended, she was elected to the union’s bargaining committee and assigned to investigate health and safety issues. She discovered what she believed to be numerous violations of health regulations, including exposure of workers to contamination, faulty respiratory equipment and improper storage of samples. She also believed the lack of sufficient shower facilities could increase the risk of employee contamination. In the summer of 1974, Silkwood testified to the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) about these issues, alleging that safety standards had slipped because of a production speedup which resulted in employees being given tasks for which they were poorly trained. She also alleged that Kerr-McGee employees handled the fuel rods improperly and that the company falsified inspection records. On November 5, 1974, Silkwood performed a routine self-check and found almost 400 times the legal limit for plutonium contamination. She was decontaminated at the plant and sent home with a testing kit to collect urine and feces for further analysis. Oddly, though there was plutonium on the exterior surfaces (the ones she touched) of the gloves she had been using, the gloves did not have any holes.

This suggests the contamination did not come from inside the glove box, but from some other source, in other words, someone was trying to poison her. The next morning, as she headed to a union negotiation meeting, she again tested positive for plutonium. This was surprising because she had only performed paperwork duties that morning. She was given a more intense decontamination. The following day, November 7, 1974, as she entered the plant, she was found to be dangerously contaminated — even expelling contaminated air from her lungs. A health physics team accompanied her back to her home and found plutonium traces on several surfaces — especially in the bathroom and the refrigerator. The house was later stripped and decontaminated. Silkwood, her partner and housemate were sent to Los Alamos National Laboratory for in-depth testing to determine the extent of the contamination in their bodies. Later that evening, Silkwood’s body was found in her car, which had run off the road and struck a culvert. The car contained no documents. She was pronounced dead at the scene from a “classic, one-car sleeping-driver accident”.
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CIA Drug Smuggling in Arkansas:

August 23, 1987, in a rural community just south of Little Rock, police officers murdered two teenage boys because they witnessed a police-protected drug drop. The drop was part of a drug smuggling operation based at a small airport in Mena, Arkansas. The Mena operation was set up in the early 1980?s by the notorious drug smuggler, Barry Seal. Facing prison after a drug conviction in Florida, Seal flew to Washington, D.C., where he put together a deal that allowed him to avoid prison by becoming an informant for the government. As a government informant against drug smugglers, Seal testified he worked for the CIA and the DEA. In one federal court case, he testified that his income from March 1984 to August 1985, was between $700,000 and $800,000. This period was AFTER making his deal with the government. Seal testified that nearly $600,000 of this came from smuggling drugs while working for — and with the permission of the DEA. In addition to his duties as an informant, Seal was used by CIA operatives to help finance the Nicaraguan Contras. The CIA connection to the Mena operation was undeniable when a cargo plane given to Seal by the CIA was shot down over Nicaragua with a load of weapons. In spite of the evidence, every investigator who has tried to expose the crimes of Mena has been professionally destroyed, and those involved in drug smuggling operations have received continued protection from state and federal authorities.
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lori100
lori100: 27.


Bohemian Grove:

For years, many conspiracy theorists were saying that the rich and powerful met every year in the woods and worshiped a giant stone owl in an occult fashion. It turns out, ABC, CBS, NBC, and many other credible news agencies investigated this and found out, its true. It is said to be just all fun and games, like brotherhood style fraternity stuff.


Bohemian Grove Secrecy Upheld, Nixon Speech 7-30-1971, NBC

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Operation Paperclip:

Operation Paperclip was the code name for the 1945 Office of Strategic Services, Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency recruitment of German scientists from Nazi Germany to the U.S. after VE Day. President Truman authorized Operation Paperclip in August 1945; however he expressly ordered that anyone found “to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism” would be excluded. These included Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and Hubertus Strughold, who were all officially on record as Nazis and listed as a “menace to the security of the Allied Forces.” All were cleared to work in the U.S. after having their backgrounds “bleached” by the military; false employment histories were provided, and their previous Nazi affiliations were expunged from the record. The paperclips that secured newly-minted background details to their personnel files gave the operation its name.
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The Round Table:

British businessman Cecil Rhodes advocated the British Empire reannexing the United States of America and reforming itself into an “Imperial Federation” to bring about a hyperpower and lasting world peace. In his first will, of 1877, written at the age of 23, he expressed his wish to fund a secret society (known as the Society of the Elect) that would advance this goal: “To and for the establishment, promotion and development of a Secret Society, the true aim and object whereof shall be for the extension of British rule throughout the world, the perfecting of a system of emigration from the United Kingdom, and of colonization by British subjects of all lands where the means of livelihood are attainable by energy, labor and enterprise, and especially the occupation by British settlers of the entire Continent of Africa, the Holy Land, the Valley of the Euphrates, the Islands of Cyprus and Candia, the whole of South America, the Islands of the Pacific not heretofore possessed by Great Britain, the whole of the Malay Archipelago, the seaboard of China and Japan, the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire, the inauguration of a system of Colonial representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed members of the Empire and, finally, the foundation of so great a Power as to render wars impossible, and promote the best interests of humanity.”

In his later wills, a more mature Rhodes abandoned the idea and instead concentrated on what became the Rhodes Scholarship, which had British statesman Alfred Milner as one of its trustees. Established in 1902, the original goal of the trust fund was to foster peace among the great powers by creating a sense of fraternity and a shared world view among future British, American, and German leaders by having enabled them to study for free at the University of Oxford. Milner and British official Lionel George Curtis were the architects of the Round Table movement, a network of organizations promoting closer union between Britain and its self-governing colonies. To this end, Curtis founded the Royal Institute of International Affairs in June 1919 and, with his 1938 book The Commonwealth of God, began advocating for the creation of an imperial federation that eventually reannexes the U.S., which would be presented to Protestant churches as being the work of the Christian God to elicit their support. The Commonwealth of Nations was created in 1949 but it would only be a free association of independent states rather than the powerful imperial federation imagined by Rhodes, Milner and Curtis. The Council on Foreign Relations began in 1917 with a group of New York academics who were asked by President Woodrow Wilson to offer options for the foreign policy of the United States in the interwar period.

Originally envisioned as a British-American group of scholars and diplomats, some of whom belonging to the Round Table movement, it was a subsequent group of 108 New York financiers, manufacturers and international lawyers organized in June 1918 by Nobel Peace Prize recipient and U.S. secretary of state, Elihu Root, that became the Council on Foreign Relations on 29 July 1921. The first of the council’s projects was a quarterly journal launched in September 1922, called Foreign Affairs. Some believe that the Council on Foreign Relations is a front organization for the Round Table as a tool of the “Anglo-American Establishment”, which they believe has been plotting from 1900 on to rule the world. The research findings of historian Carroll Quigley, author of the 1966 book Tragedy and Hope, are taken by both conspiracy theorists of the American Old Right (Cleon Skousen) and New Left (Carl Oglesby) to substantiate this view, even though he argued that the Establishment is not involved in a plot to implement a one-world government but rather British and American benevolent imperialism driven by the mutual interests of economic elites in the United Kingdom and the United States. Quigley also argued that, although the Round Table still exists today, its position in influencing the policies of world leaders has been much reduced from its heyday during World War I and slowly waned after the end of World War II and the Suez Crisis. Today it is largely a ginger group, designed to consider and gradually influence the policies of the Commonwealth of Nations, but faces strong opposition. Furthermore, in American society after 1965, the problem, according to Quigley, was that no elite was in charge and acting responsibly.

American banker David Rockefeller joined the Council on Foreign Relations as its youngest-ever director in 1949 and subsequently became chairman of the board from 1970 to 1985; today he serves as honorary chairman.
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lori100
lori100: dailymail----------------Former Nixon aide claims he has evidence Lyndon B. Johnson arranged John F. Kennedy's assassination in new book
Roger Stone claims Johnson ‘micro-managed’ Kennedy’s Dallas motorcade, demanding it pass through Dealy Plaza on the afternoon he was shot
He also says that Johnson, instructed Richard Nixon to hire Jack Ruby several years before he shot Lee Harvey Oswald
The revelations are made in his book 'The man who killed Kennedy - the case against LBJ' out later this year

By Damian Ghigliotty

PUBLISHED: 08:46 EST, 11 May 2-----------------A renowned Republican strategist and lobbyist has claimed that former president Lyndon B. Johnson set up John F. Kennedy’s assassination, which occurred on November 22, 1963.

Roger Stone, 61, makes the claim in his upcoming book 'The Man who killed Kennedy - the case against LBJ,' which is set to be published in October.

He also writes that Richard Nixon and Johnson had a documented relationship with Jack Ruby, Lee Harvey Oswald’s killer, years before he shot Oswald in the basement of Dallas police headquarters in 1963, reports The Daily Caller. ------------Stone worked for Richard Nixon’s Committee to Re-elect the President in 1972 and later served in the Nixon administration.


He claims that Johnson, a congressman at the time, instructed Richard Nixon, also a congressman at the time, to hire Ruby onto the House of Representatives payroll in 1947.
---------------------------------------Stone claims Johnson ‘micro-managed’ Kennedy’s Dallas motorcade, demanding it pass through Dealy Plaza on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, the infamous day when Oswald shot Kennedy from the overlooking book depository building.

‘Nixon knew Jack Ruby, hired him on House payroll in 1947 at request of … Lyndon Johnson. Newly released documents prove it. in my upcoming book “The Man who killed Kennedy- the case against LBJ” Out Oct 1–order yours today,’ Stone wrote on his Facebook page on Thursday.
--------------------------------‘LBJ and Gov. John Connally micro-managed Dalla JFK’s schedule and demanded the route thru Dealy Plaza where the motorcade came to a full stop and LBJ had JFK killed,’ he added.

‘They had no interest in JFK stops in Austin or Houston!'

Stone, now a member of the Libertarian Party, co-wrote his book with Libertarian writer Mike Colapietro.

Ruby, whose real name was Jacob Leon Rubenstein, moved from Chicago to Dallas in 1947, the same year Stone alleges that Nixon put him on the House payroll at Johnson’s request.

Ruby died of a pulmonary embolism on January 3, 1967, a little more than three years after killing Oswald.

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chronology
chronology: Lori ................ There were 28 deathbed confessions by people claiming to know 'a thing or two' about Mr Kennedy's death, today I think it is 32, so why should anyone trust these 'revelations' any more than others?

Actually, the 'Jack Rubinstein', so called connection with Mr Nixon is only about 99.9pc fiction. Someone says there was a 'Jack Rubinstein' in Chicago who sent Mr Nixon a letter in the Communist Witch Hunt hysteria Mr Nixon was connected to through Joe McArthy. Seems the Chicago 'Jack Rubinstein' was just some Guy with the same name who wanted to meet Mr Nixon to tell him secret details of communists in the Windy City. But heck Lori, never let facts or truth spoil a good story hey dear girl?
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lori100
lori100: One of the revelations might be right, will have to wait for the book to be out.....and the govt is not above creating fake backgrounds of people....Bush Sr. the Nazi for instance....
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chronology
chronology: Lori dear, the entire JFK story is over. Lee Oswald did it alone, all the facts we have point to that, 'Case Closed'. America faces more important problems like unemployment, health care, low minimum wage levels, increasing levels of alienation among many Americans.
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lori100
lori100: I don't believe the govt story, some involved like Bush sr are still here (he could have been involved---was CIA at the time)
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chronology
chronology: Lori dear, no insult intended but you are like a hypochondriac who is shown an Xray Picture which shows no evidence at all of illness, but like the hypochondriac you still keep insisting 'there is something there, you just cannot see it'. You keep looking at JFKs death and cannot accept what everyone els who uses objective understanding does about facts and events on Nov 22 in Dallas that there is just nothing at all to justify any Government conspiracy of any kind other than your own, may I say, unreasonable and extreme speculations. And those speculations are based on nothing but a few random coincidences and anomalies that can be found in any such murder or incident in history. You also seem to have a truly naïve conception of Mr Kennedy. Mr Kennedy in American Public Media mythology was the happy sweet Catholic family man who defended all that was hunky dory about the U.S.A. in reality he was a Cold War warrior and probably one of the most ruthless anti communist reactionaries ever to sit in the White House, and this is the man you suggest Washington toppled. Again, no disrespect to Mr Kennedy. If there 'was' a conspiracy in Dallas on that November day it could only involve 2 people, Lee Oswald and one other unknown man who had joined him in the TSBD, Oswald had brought his rifle and prepared the shooting position and acted as lookout, the other Guy did the shooting. And who did this possible murder duo represent? Certainly not the American Establishment, JFK was their man, not the Mafia, the Assassin was no hitman, he was firing bullets like a maniac into the JFK automobile. Even this speculative scenario falls down Lori.
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lori100
lori100: Kennedy was supposed to be the govt's man, he turned on them ..I will find where I posted it before.......----------------- J.F. Kennedy, at Columbia University in 1963, said it perfectly:

"The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy America's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizens of their plight." Ten days later, John F. Kennedy was assassinated!
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duncan124
duncan124:
"... Lori dear, no insult intended but you are like a hypochondriac who is shown an Xray Picture which shows no evidence at all of illness, but like the hypochondriac you still keep insisting 'there is something there, you just cannot see it'. You keep looking at JFKs death .."

Ever watchful...

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=723501
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lori100
lori100: from Duncan's article^^^^^--------------------This article suggests that the issue of Second Amendment incorporation presents a useful contemporary mechanism for the Court to revive the long-dormant Fourteenth Amendment privileges or immunities clause, and that such judicial recognition of the clause is necessary to respect the Framers' vision, as inspired by the Declaration of Independence and laid out in the amended Constitution, for a government that would serve, instead of rule, the people. Government would exercise its necessary, limited role, and otherwise leave the people alone - with the Constitution standing ever watchful as guardian to assure that government would not overstep its bounds, as governments are apt to do.
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chronology
chronology: Lori ............... again can you please tell us all here 'how' the U.S. Government killed JFK when there is not a shred of CSI Evidence anywhere even suggesting they did so? Are you saying Lee was a lone deranged Manchurian Candidate killer so beloved by conspiracy crazies? And that Washington allowed this madman to walk around Mexico City a month before the killing with a gun in his pocket complaining to Soviet and Cuban Embassy staff about being harassed in Dallas.

Lori this is nonsense. It is like the hypochondriac insisting they have cancer when they do not.
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dave3974
dave3974: are you saying the Manchurian Candidate was not true
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lori100
lori100: I'm still trying to find my post on JFK and why they wanted him out....so many threads...so little time...
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chronology
chronology: dave3974, for goodness sake dave, are you saying they 'are' true. I see more reality when watching the TV Series 'True Blood' than reading Lori's Posts, no disrespect meant to her. At least 'True Blood' has some basis of reality about it.
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lori100
lori100: I can't find the post about why JfK was murdered. I think it was on the previous conspiracy thread that got deleted. It outlined the drastic changes to depts., and the IRS that JFK wanted to make. It may also have included getting rid of the Federal Reserve. Anyway, he had big plans and many didn't want them to happen. ----------------------------------------about the Manchurian Candidate---it is very real, the movie was based on the actual govt program. ------------------From the Appendix of MC Realities: Understanding, Detecting, and Defeating Political Control Technologies

a book by H. Michael Sweeney ------------
1959-1961 , ------------------- First Mass Shootings start taking place now as first-fruits of CIA mind control research – Manchurian Candidate programing
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duncan124
duncan124:
"Conspiracy Theories That Were Proven True,..." must include the US Vietnam war must n't it???
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lori100
lori100: The Illuminati:

The Order of the Illuminati was an Enlightenment-age secret society founded on May 1st, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria), by Adam Weishaupt, who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt. The movement consisted of freethinkers, secularists, liberals, republicans and pro-feminists, recruited in the Masonic Lodges of Germany, who sought to promote perfectionism through mystery schools. As a result, in 1785, the order was infiltrated, broken and suppressed by the government agents of Charles Theodore, Elector of Bavaria, in his campaign to neutralize the threat of secret societies ever becoming hotbeds of conspiracies to overthrow the monarchy and state religion. In the late 18th century, reactionary conspiracy theorists, such as Scottish physicist John Robison and French Jesuit priest Augustin Barruel, began speculating that the Illuminati survived their suppression and became the masterminds behind the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror. The Illuminati were accused of being enlightened absolutists who were attempting to secretly orchestrate a world revolution in order to globalize the most radical ideals of the Enlightenment: anti-clericalism, anti-monarchism, and anti-patriarchalism. During the 19th century, fear of an Illuminati conspiracy was a real concern of European ruling classes, and their oppressive reactions to this unfounded fear provoked in 1848 the very revolutions they sought to prevent. Although many say that the Illuminati was disbanded and destroyed so long ago, it is well known that the Rothschild dynasty following the family’s involvement in the secret order in Bavaria received much attention for its major takeover of Europe’s central banks. The Rothschild dynasty owns roughly half of the world’s wealth and evidence suggests it has funded both sides of major wars, including the United States Civil War.
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The Trilateral Commission:

The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation among the United States, Europe and Japan. It was founded in July 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller, who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time. The Trilateral Commission is widely seen as a counterpart to the Council on Foreign Relations. In July 1972, Rockefeller called his first meeting, which was held at Rockefeller’s Pocantico compound in New York’s Hudson Valley. It was attended by about 250 individuals who were carefully selected and screened by Rockefeller and represented the very elite of finance and industry. Its first executive committee meeting was held in Tokyo in October 1973. The Trilateral Commission was officially initiated, holding biannual meetings. A Trilateral Commission Task Force Report, presented at the 1975 meeting in Kyoto, Japan, called An Outline for Remaking World Trade and Finance, said: “Close Trilateral cooperation in keeping the peace, in managing the world economy, and in fostering economic development and in alleviating world poverty, will improve the chances of a smooth and peaceful evolution of the global system.” Another Commission document read: “The overriding goal is to make the world safe for interdependence by protecting the benefits which it provides for each country against external and internal threats which will constantly emerge from those willing to pay a price for more national autonomy. This may sometimes require slowing the pace at which interdependence proceeds, and checking some aspects of it. More frequently however, it will call for checking the intrusion of national government into the international exchange of both economic and non-economic goods.”
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duncan124
duncan124:
...but you don't mention it any where!

That was the time when the USA changed to become a militaristic society.
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lori100
lori100: You can post about it ....one could say all wars are conspiracies....the power elites have their own agenda in pushing for wars....they are heavily profiting from them....
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