Conspiracy Theories That Were Proven True, Conspiracy poll results (Page 30)

gronchbove: There you go, be pro-active, Ghost.

Get robot oil.

Ms_Mafdet_The Great: http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/10/finally-the-cia-admits/

gronchbove: See, all "TRUTH" must be revealed. Even the wicked know that. Thus, the wicked commit crime after crime, steal from the innocent, murder those who tell the truth, then perhaps 100 years later, admit that they are abominations, murderers and scum.

It just proves that EVIL rules the Earth.

ghostgeek: When will the world learn the truth about Muhammad?

gronchbove: Allah promises that all of the truth will be revealed.

Remember to place the (peace be unto him) after his name.

ghostgeek: And where did you find this promise? Floating on a cloud, maybe?

gronchbove: It is in your Quran. You want the verse?

ghostgeek: And where did the Qur'an come from? Radio Ga Ga?

gronchbove: It was compiled from the teachings of Allah.

ghostgeek: Surely, it was compiled from the sayings of Muhammad?

gronchbove: Not only Muhammad (pbuh) but also with the Torah and Gospel. The faith has always existed in the hearts of man.

Allah simply brought it more recognition.

Kind of like oxygen. Who discovered oxygen?

ghostgeek: So Islam depends upon the word of one man, Muhammad. If he was mistaken, or worse a liar, what underpins the beliefs of over a billion people? Nothing!

ghostgeek: The Torah and the Gospels are the recollections of others, but the Qur'an is the sayings of one man.

gronchbove: You know that is not true.

Actually, even more than other faiths, Islam, presents a comprehensive understanding of world history.

Neither Zionism nor Christianity can compare.

gronchbove: Consider Zionism: It has created a state that continually violates laws and seems to be "so paranoid" as to be particularly ineffective.

You have seen the "tedious tactics" of David to project and make garbage up to justify Zionism.

gronchbove: Christianity is stuck in the European "2-year-old malaise." For some odd reason, Europe seems to be stuck in the "Baby" phase of development.

See Scameron.

gronchbove: you need to read the Quran more closely. In fact, I didn't even find many passages with just the Messenger speaking.

Much was "How to create a Law" to create a thriving culture.

ghostgeek: Islam rests on the recorded sayings of one man. That is a very small base on which to build ones faith, seeing how fallible men are.

gronchbove: The Quran recounts the Fall of the Diablos, Adam & Eve and Mary.

These are from other eyewitnesses.

I believe Joseph in Egypt is also discussed.

ghostgeek: By eck lad, you're paddling far from land now. Are you saying people other than Muhammad have their words recorded in the Qur'an?

ghostgeek: How many people were in that cave with Muhammad?

gronchbove: Yes, most Holy Scripture is a compilation. These are written in the decades after the Revelator arrives.

ghostgeek: It would be hard to write before the "Revelator" appears, wouldn't it? My understanding is that the words of Muhammad were remembered by a select group of people, and some of his sayings were also written down on stones, leaves, etc.

That still leaves the question of the veracity of Muhammad's words unanswered.

gronchbove: Man needs faith and Allah understands this.

There is much that is confirmed by the Gospel and Torah. I was surprised, the Quran did not really discuss the spread of Islam in great detail.

ghostgeek: How could the Qur'an discuss the spread of Islam? It wasn't until after Muhammad died that the religion spread anywhere.