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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: Ahh.. Good old neuschwabenland....

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lori100: wiki-----------------Operation Mockingbird was a secret campaign by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to influence media. Begun in the 1950s, it was initially organized by Cord Meyer and Allen W. Dulles, it was later led by Frank Wisner after Dulles became the head of the CIA. The organization recruited leading American journalists into a network to help present the CIA's views, and funded some student and cultural organizations, and magazines as fronts. As it developed, it also worked to influence foreign media and political campaigns, in addition to activities by other operating units of the CIA.

In addition to earlier exposés of CIA activities in foreign affairs, in 1966 Ramparts magazine published an article revealing that the National Student Association was funded by the CIA. The United States Congress investigated, and published its report in 1976. Other accounts were also published. The media operation was first called Mockingbird in Deborah Davis's 1979 book, Katharine the Great: Katharine Graham and her Washington Post Empire
---------------------------------In 1948, Frank Wisner was appointed director of the Office of Special Projects (OSP). Soon afterwards OSP was renamed the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC). This became the covert action branch of the Central Intelligence Agency. Wisner was told to create an organization that concentrated on "propaganda, economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance groups, and support of indigenous anti-Communist elements in threatened countries of the free world."[2] Later that year Wisner established Mockingbird, a program to influence foreign media. Wisner recruited Philip Graham from The Washington Post to run the project within the industry. According to Deborah Davis in Katharine the Great; "By the early 1950s, Wisner 'owned' respected members of The New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles."[3]

In 1951, Allen W. Dulles persuaded Cord Meyer to join the CIA. However, there is evidence that he was recruited several years earlier and had been spying on the liberal internationalist organizations he had been a member of in the late 1940s.[4] According to Deborah Davis, Meyer became Mockingbird's "principal operative."[5]
-------------------------After 1953, the network was overseen by Allen W. Dulles, director of the CIA. By this time, Operation Mockingbird had a major influence over 25 newspapers and wire agencies. The usual methodology was placing reports developed from intelligence provided by the CIA to witting or unwitting reporters. Those reports would then be repeated or cited by the preceding reporters which in turn would then be cited throughout the media wire services. These networks were run by people with well-known liberal but pro-American big business and anti-Soviet views such as William Paley (CBS), Henry Luce (Time and Life Magazine), Arthur Hays Sulzberger (New York Times), Alfred Friendly (managing editor of the Washington Post), Jerry O'Leary (Washington Star), Hal Hendrix (Miami News), Barry Bingham, Sr. (Louisville Courier-Journal), James Copley (Copley News Services) and Joseph Harrison (Christian Science Monitor).[7]

The Office of Policy Coordination (OPC) was funded by siphoning off funds intended for the Marshall Plan. Some of this money was used to bribe journalists and publishers. Frank Wisner was constantly looking for ways to help convince the public of the dangers of Soviet communism. In 1954, Wisner arranged for the funding of the Hollywood production of Animal Farm, the animated allegory based on the book written by George Orwell.[8]

According to Alex Constantine (Mockingbird: The Subversion of the Free Press by the CIA), in the 1950s, "some 3,000 salaried and contract CIA employees were eventually engaged in propaganda efforts". Wisner was able to constrain newspapers from reporting about certain events, including the CIA plots to overthrow the governments of Iran (see: Operation Ajax) and Guatemala (see: Operation PBSUCCESS).[9]
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: Careful..

Any minute now, your "friend" Chronology will be countering your claims
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lori100: That's ok....some are still in denial ...
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: Yepp....

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 – 1860)
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: Good post btw Lori
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: chronology:

"Lori, Lori, why fill your head with such thoughts. Instead think of sailing on the beautiful Mississippi River on a River Boat, sipping Southern Comfort and watching the Romantic Southern Manses drift past in the romantic dusk light. Or think of visiting the outstanding Jackson Zoo, world class, and lot's of Big Cats there for you to see and fall in love with. Mind you, just listening to folks in Dixie can be entertaining, home spun Southern Wisdom presented on their Southern accent."

Yeah, the wind gently blowing, rustling the leaves. The smell of the fresh air, and freshly trimmed grass. Birds in the distance, singing their beautiful songs of peace.
Children playing in the parks. The sound of families on a sunday picnic, enjoying the summer.

And then the nukes hit
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lori100: thanks Ms.
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lori100: One huge corrupt conspiracy....-------------------Who owns the Federal Reserve Bank? A phone conversation about the unseen
operations of the Federal Reserve System
The following is a conversation with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public
Information Department of the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank. This
is an account of that conversation.

CALLER – Mr. Supinski, does my country own the Federal Reserve System?

MR. SUPINSKI – We are an agency of the government.

CALLER – That’s not my question. Is it owned by my country?

MR. SUPINSKI – It is an agency of the government created by congress.

CALLER – Is the Federal Reserve a Corporation?


CALLER – Does my government own any of the stock in the Federal Reserve?

MR. SUPINSKI – No, it is owned by the member banks.

CALLER – Are the member banks private corporations?


CALLER – Are Federal Reserve Notes backed by anything?

MR. SUPINSKI-Yes, by the assets of the Federal Reserve but, primarily by
the power of congress to lay tax on the people.

CALLER – Did you say, by the power to collect taxes is what backs
Federal Reserve Notes?


CALLER – What are the total assets of the Federal Reserve?

MR. SUPINSKI – The San Francisco Bank has $36 Billion in assets.

CALLER – What are these assets composed of?

MR. SUPINSKI – Gold, the Federal Reserve Bank itself and government

CALLER – What value does the Federal Reserve Bank carry gold per oz. on
their books?

MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t have that information but the San Francisco Bank
has $1.6 billion in gold.

CALLER – Are you saying the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco has
$1.6 billion in gold, the bank itself and the balance of the assets is
government securities?


CALLER – Where does the Federal Reserve get Federal Reserve Notes from?

MR. SUPINSKI – They are authorized by the Treasury.

CALLER – How much does the Federal Reserve pay for a $10 Federal Reserve

MR. SUPINSKI – Fifty to seventy cents.

CALLER – How much do they pay for a $100.00 Federal Reserve Note?

MR. SUPINSKI – The same fifty to seventy cents.

CALLER – To pay only fifty cents for a $100.00 is a tremendous gain,
isn’t it?


CALLER – According to the US Treasury, the Federal Reserve pays $20.60
per 1,000 denomination or a little over two cents for a $100.00 bill, is
that correct?

MR. SUPINSKI – That is probably close.

CALLER – Doesn’t the Federal Reserve use the Federal Reserve Notes that
cost about two cents each to purchase US Bonds from the government?

MR. SUPINSKI – Yes, but there is more to it than that.

CALLER – Basically, that is what happens?

MR. SUPINSKI – Yes, basically you are correct.

CALLER – How many Federal Reserve Notes are in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI – $263 billion and we can only account for a small percentage.

CALLER – Where did they go?

MR. SUPINSKI – Peoples mattress, buried in their back yards and illegal
drug money.

CALLER – Since the debt is payable in Federal Reserve Notes, how can the
$4 trillion national debt be paid-off with the total Federal Reserve
Notes in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t know.

CALLER – If the Federal Government would collect every Federal Reserve
Note in circulation would it be mathematically possible to pay the $4
trillion national debt?


CALLER – Am I correct when I say, $1 deposited in a member bank $8 can
be lent out through Fractional Reserve Policy?

MR. SUPINSKI – About $7.

CALLER – Correct me if I am wrong but, $7 of additional Federal Reserve
Notes were never put in circulation. But, for lack of better words were
“created out of thin air ” in the form of credits and the two cents per
denomination were not paid either. In other words, the Federal Reserve
Notes were not physically printed but, in reality were created by a
journal entry and lent at interest. Is that correct?


CALLER – Is that the reason there are only $263 billion Federal Reserve
Notes in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI – That is part of the reason.

CALLER – Am I mistaking that when the Federal Reserve Act was passed (on
Christmas Eve) in 1913, it transferred the power to coin and issue our
nation’s money and to regulate the value thereof from Congress to a
Private corporation. And my country now borrows what should be our own
money from the Federal Reserve (a private corporation) plus interest. Is
that correct and the debt can never be paid off under the current money
system of country?

MR. SUPINSKI – Basically, yes.

CALLER – I smell a rat, do you?

MR. SUPINSKI – I am sorry, I can’t answer that, I work here.

CALLER – Has the Federal Reserve ever been independently audited?

MR. SUPINSKI – We are audited.

CALLER – Why is there a current House Resolution 1486 calling for a
complete audit of the Federal Reserve by the GAO and why is the Federal
Reserve resisting?

MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t know.

CALLER – Does the Federal Reserve regulate the value of Federal Reserve
Notes and interest rates?


CALLER – Explain how the Federal Reserve System can be Constitutional
if, only the Congress of the US, which comprises of the Senate and the
House of representatives has the power to coin and issue our money
supply and regulate the value thereof? [Article 1 Section 1 and Section
8] Nowhere, in the Constitution does it give Congress the power or
authority to transfer any powers granted under the Constitution to a
private corporation or, does it?

MR. SUPINSKI – I am not an expert on constitutional law. I can refer you
to our legal department.

CALLER – I can tell you I have read the Constitution. It does NOT
provide that any power granted can be transferred to a private
corporation. Doesn’t it specifically state, all other powers not granted
are reserved to the States and to the citizens? Does that mean to a
private corporation?

MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t think so, but we were created by Congress.

CALLER – Would you agree it is our country and it should be our money as
provided by our Constitution?

MR. SUPINSKI – I understand what you are saying.

CALLER – Why should we borrow our own money from a private consortium of
bankers? Isn’t this why we had a revolution, created a separate
sovereign nation and a Bill of Rights?

MR. SUPINSKI – (Declined to answer).

CALLER – Has the Federal Reserve ever been declared constitutional by
the Supreme Court?

MR. SUPINSKI – I believe there has been court cases on the matter.

CALLER – Have there been Supreme Court Cases?

MR. SUPINSKI – I think so, but I am not sure.

CALLER – Didn’t the Supreme Court declare unanimously in A.L.A.
Schechter Poultry Corp. vs. US and Carter vs. Carter Coal Co. the
corporative-state arrangement an unconstitutional delegation of
legislative power? ["The power conferred is the power to regulate. This
is legislative delegation in its most obnoxious form; for it is not even
delegation to an official or an official body, presumptively
disinterested, but to private persons." Carter vs. Carter Coal Co...]

MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t know, I can refer you to our legal department.

CALLER – Isn’t the current money system a house of cards that must fall
because, the debt can mathematically never be paid-off?

MR. SUPINSKI – It appears that way. I can tell you have been looking
into this matter and are very knowledgeable. However, we do have a solution.

CALLER – What is the solution?

MR. SUPINSKI – The Debit Card.

CALLER – Do you mean under the EFT Act (Electronic Funds Transfer)?
Isn’t that very frightening, when one considers the capabilities of
computers? It would provide the government and all it’s agencies,
including the Federal Reserve such information as: You went to the gas
station @ 2:30 and bought $10.00 of unleaded gas @ $1.41 per gallon and
then you went to the grocery store @ 2:58 and bought bread, lunch meat
and milk for $12.32 and then went to the drug store @ 3:30 and bought
cold medicine for $5.62. In other words, they would know where we go,
when we went, how much we paid, how much the merchant paid and how much
profit he made. Under the EFT they will literally know everything about
us. Isn’t that kind of scary?

MR. SUPINSKI – Yes, it makes you wonder.

CALLER – I smell a GIANT RAT that has overthrown my constitution. Aren’t
we paying tribute in the form of income taxes to a consortium of private

MR. SUPINSKI – I can’t call it tribute, it is interest.

CALLER – Haven’t all elected officials taken an oath of office to
preserve and defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and
domestic? Isn’t the Federal Reserve a domestic enemy?

MR. SUPINSKI – I can’t say that.

CALLER – Our elected officials and members of the Federal Reserve are
guilty of aiding and abetting the overthrowing of my Constitution and
that is treason. Isn’t the punishment of treason death?

MR. SUPINSKI – I believe so.

CALLER – Thank you for your time and information and if I may say so, I
think you should take the necessary steps to protect you and your family
and withdraw your money from the banks before the collapse, I am.

MR. SUPINSKI – It doesn’t look good.

CALLER – May God have mercy on the souls who are behind this
unconstitutional and criminal act called the Federal Reserve. When the
ALMIGHTY MASS awakens to this giant hoax, they will not take it with a
grain of salt. It has been a pleasure talking to you and I thank you for
your time. I hope you will take my advice before it does collapse.

MR. SUPINSKI – Unfortunately, it does not look good.

CALLER – Have a good day and thanks for your time.

MR. SUPINSKI – Thanks for calling.
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lori100: Thanks Rebecca, it's interesting....there is some evidence that Hitler may have been related to the Rothschilds ...he may have been used as a pawn possibly....he certainly had lots of help from many countries in funding and supplies, including several American banks and companies.....
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Gen. Wesley Clark-------"Ten days post-9/11, he visited Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. They met at the Pentagon. "No one will tell us where or when to bomb", he was told. Military commanders said Iraq will be attacked.

"I walked out of there pretty upset," said Clark. On a second visit, he learned more. He was told plans were to "destroy the governments in seven countries." Besides Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran would be targeted.

He knew a decade earlier. In 1991, he wore one star. He visited Under Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz. He did so at the Pentagon. They met after Operation Desert Storm.

He was stunned by what he heard. America intended multiple premeditated wars. Policymakers want the Middle East destabilized. They want it redrawn. They want it turned upside down.

They want unchallenged US control. They want America's military might used destructively. They want it used "to start wars and change governments. It's not to deter conflicts," said Clark. It's not about liberation and spreading democracy.

Wolfowitz said "we should have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein....But one thing we did learn. We can use our military anywhere in the Middle East and the Soviets won't stop us."

"And we've got about five or 10 years to clean out those old Soviet client regimes." He named Syria, Iran, and Iraq. He suggested other countries. He called multiple wars essential "before the next great superpower comes along to challenge us."
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lori100: Kenya’s Catholic bishops are charging two United Nations organizations with sterilizing millions of girls and women under cover of an anti-tetanus inoculation program sponsored by the Kenyan government.

According to a statement released Tuesday by the Kenya Catholic Doctors Association, the organization has found an antigen that causes miscarriages in a vaccine being administered to 2.3 million girls and women by the World Health Organization and UNICEF. Priests throughout Kenya reportedly are advising their congregations to refuse the vaccine.
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Bat_Tziyon: Hey all Shalom. Has anyone heard of the Angolan ban against Islam?
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lori100: no
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Bat_Tziyon: For lori100
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R E B E C C A: There's definitely a global effort to attack peoples human rights, either under the guise of religion, terrorism or both...Policing peoples thoughts,... that's what it amounts to
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lori100: ty Bat.....from Bat's link^^^--------Angola Becomes 'First Country to Ban Islam' - Arutz Sheva

Arutz Sheva

The non-legalized religions on the list "published by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights in the Angolan newspaper 'Jornal de Angola' are prohibited to ...-------------yep, some country was going to do it....
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chronology: Lori ........ my dear Girl, here we go again. Angola has 'not' banned Islam, and never has. The entire 'Angola Banned Islam' story was a Hoax on the Internet.

Scientology has at times been harassed so much in some countries it could almost be called a 'ban', but that seemed a reaction to Scientologies stand against the use of some Prescription Drugs and it's one time statement that homosexuality was not a healthy lifestyle.

As far as I understand the U.N. Charter, it is impossible to ban a religion like Islam and remain a member of the U.N.

Now Lori, time for your California Carrot Cake and fresh ground Coffee.
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lori100: a hoax?---------------Angola bans Islam and shuts down all mosques | Daily Mail ...
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chronology: Lori, it is a Hoax, no such thing happened.
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lori100: others have reported it too
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R E B E C C A: yeah i cant find this story anywhere its
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ghostgeek: The story isn't true. Mufti Ismail Menk, a Zimbabwean Muslim scholar, issued a statement saying he had consulted with Angolan scholars who said the story was “completely fabricated”. A nice insight to the claim can be found at:
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lori100: Operation Northwoods was a series of proposals for actions against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals, which called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in US cities and elsewhere, were rejected by the Kennedy administration.-------------------rense-----------------
Operation Northwoods -
Proof US Government
Could Harm Americans

From William Douglas--------------------------WHAT DOES NORTHWOODS SAY? The Northwoods proposal was authorized and tentatively approved by the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff. It had a very clear purpose: "1. The Joint Chiefs of Staff have considered the attached Memorandum for the Chief of Operations, Cuba Project, which responds to a request* of that office for brief but precise description of pretexts which could provide justification for U.S. military intervention in Cuba. --------- "2. The Joint Chiefs of Staff recommend that the proposed memorandum be forwarded as a preliminary submission suitable for planning purposes." ------------See Operation Northwoods, page i, The aim was disinformation, to create the false impression that Cuba had viciously attacked Americans: ------------- "5. The suggested courses of action appended to Enclosure A are based on the premise that US military intervention will result from a period of heightened US-Cuban tensions which place the United States in the position of suffering justifiable grievances. World opinion, and the United Nations forum should be favorably affected by developing the international image of the Cuban government as rash and irresponsible, and as an alarming and unpredictable threat to the peace of the Western Hemisphere." ----------See Operations Northwoods, page 2, The document argued that Cuba should be attacked within a few months, before it could join the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact. Thus the plan was not only deceitful and murderous, including, as we shall see, towards Americans, it was also cowardly: --------------"6. While the foregoing premise can be utilized at the present time it will continue to hold good only as long as there can be reasonable certainty that US military intervention in Cuba would not directly involve the Soviet Union." ----------See Operations Northwoods, page 2, ---- The Northwoods document was to be forwarded to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. McNamara claims he never saw it; but then, he also claims that during the 1960s he was opposed to the Vietnam War.---------- "8. It is recommended that: "A. Enclosure A together with its attachments should be forwarded to the Secretary of Defense for approval and transmittal to the Chief of Operations, Cuba Project." See Operations Northwoods, page 3, ------ Northwoods recognized that the best justification for attacking Cuba was to trick Cuba into attacking U.S. forces first:------ "1. Since it would seem desirable to use legitimate [sic!] provocation as the basis for US military intervention in Cuba, a cover and deception plan, to include requisite preliminary actions such as has been developed in response to Task 33 o [this may be a 'c'] could be executed as an initial effort to provoke Cuban reactions. Harassment plus deceptive actions to convince the Cubans of imminent invasion would be emphasized. Our military posture throughout execution of the plan will allow a rapid change from exercise to intervention if Cuban response justifies." --------See Operations Northwoods page 7, But the document also called for staging phony Cuban attacks on U.S. installations: ------- "(5) Blow up ammunition inside the [Guantanamo] base; start fires. (6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage). ----(7) Lob mortar shells from outside of base onto base. Some damage to installations."----- See Operations Northwoods page 8, ---------Some of the proposed attacks could be used to portray the Cubans as heartless monsters: ------"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.''---------- See Operations Northwoods page 10, ---- While the plan does not actually call for killing the college students mentioned above - only seeming to kill them - the Joint Chiefs did suggest the possibility of killing some Cuban refugees, or at least wounding them, as long as there was plenty of publicity to make it all worthwhile: ------- "The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized."------ See Operations Northwoods page 9, ------ Or perhaps some U.S. servicemen could be blown up: ------ "3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in several forms: a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba." -------See Operations Northwoods page 8, ----- Nothing personal, you know. All part of the game. Note that in #3, above, the Joint Chiefs seem to take it for granted that the sinking of the Maine, which was used to justify the Spanish-American war, was a staged incident. Keep in mind that to this day - over a hundred years after the incident - the U.S. military refuses to publicly acknowledge that the Maine was destroyed in a Northwoods-style provocation, though they privately know this was the case. ----- Northwoods called for elaborate schemes to create the proper illusions: -------- "6. Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce such fact. The primary drawback to this suggestion appears to be the security risk inherent in obtaining or modifying an aircraft. However, reasonable copies of the MIG could be produced from US resources in about three months." ---------See Operations Northwoods page 9, ------ There is a phrase in the text above that could be used to sum up to the morality of Northwoods as a whole: "The only drawback to this scheme appears to be security."-------- Thus the Joint Chiefs recommended that: --------- "b. This paper NOT be forwarded to commanders of unified or specified commands.---- c. This paper NOT be forwarded to US officers assigned to NATO activities. -----d. This paper NOT be forwarded to the Chairman, US Delegation, United Nations Military Staff Committee." ------------See Operations Northwoods page 3, -------- There were additional plans for the staging of violent incidents which are not included in the Northwoods document: ----- "3. It is understood that the Department of State also is preparing suggested courses of action to develop justification for US military intervention in Cuba."------- See Operations Northwoods page 3, ------- We have prepared the text of Northwoods in WebPage format. Some people find this easier to navigate than the format in which the National Security Archive posted it, which is Adobe Acrobat Portable Document Format (PDF) file. You may read the document in either format.-------- If you are in doubt, use the WebPage format. It's easier to navigate. For WebPage format click here or go to For George Washington University's National Security Archive page for Operation Northwoods, click here or go to or go directly to the Adobe Acrobat PDF file at:
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