Conspiracy Theories That Were Proven True, Conspiracy poll results (Page 13)

duncan124
duncan124:
I recon there was but the rest is all crap....and its a true conspiracy, they will crucify you if they can.
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lori100
lori100: MLK Jr.-------------In a 1999 civil trial that did not name the US government as a defendant and sought $100 from Loyd Jowers[vague], with both the family and Jowers cooperating together and the only presenting parties, the jury ruled that Loyd Jowers and others, including unspecified governmental agencies, were all part of the conspiracy to kill King.
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/07/17/new-studies-conspiracy-theorists-sane-while-government-dupes-are-crazy-and-hostile/

LMAO!! my con-theorists
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lori100
lori100: lol
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lori100
lori100: Leading HIV/AIDS experts, activists among casualties of shot down Malaysian plane----------------------------Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was flying over eastern Ukraine's Donetsk region on Thursday when it was blasted by a surface-to-air missile. The exploded aircraft crashed and brought down with it all 298 people on board and a significant share of humanity's ability to fight and end the HIV and AIDS epidemic.

On board the plane and among those who perished were researchers and activists bound for an international conference in Melbourne, Australia, where they would have gathered to learn ways to combat HIV and AIDS, which remain prevalent and continue to claim about 1.5 million lives per year.
----------------------------------'AIDS cure may have been on that plane': Researchers ...

www.mirror.co.uk/.../aids-cure-been-plane-researchers-...
(Edited by lori100)
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Six Aids delegates on flight MH17. That leaves another 6000 to talk themselves silly in Melbourne.
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lori100
lori100: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/24/politics/24NERV.html ------------------------
Sailors Sprayed With Nerve Gas in Cold War Test, Pentagon Says
www.nytimes.com ------------
Sailors Sprayed With Nerve Gas in Cold War Test, Pentagon Says

By THOM SHANKER with WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: May 24, 2002 -------WASHINGTON, May 23 — The Defense Department sprayed live nerve and biological agents on ships and sailors in cold war-era experiments to test the Navy's vulnerability to toxic warfare, the Pentagon revealed today.

The Pentagon documents made public today showed that six tests were carried out in the Pacific Ocean from 1964 to 1968. In the experiments, nerve or chemical agents were sprayed on a variety of ships and their crews to gauge how quickly the poisons could be detected and how rapidly they would disperse, as well as to test the effectiveness of protective gear and decontamination procedures in use at the time.

Hundreds of sailors exposed to the poisons in tests conducted in the 1960's could be eligible for health care benefits, and the Department of Veterans Affairs has already begun contacting those who participated in some of the experiments, known as Project Shipboard Hazard and Defense, or SHAD.

"We are committed to helping every veteran who took part in these tests," said Anthony J. Principi, the secretary of veterans affairs. "If we find any medical problems or disabilities we can attribute to Project SHAD, we'll ensure these veterans receive the benefits they deserve."
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chronology
chronology: Lori dear girl, you do have a 'morbid fascination' with these stories. Other countries carried out identical tests.
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lori100
lori100: ...crimes ...not tests.......for people who believe the govt is their protector....
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chronology
chronology: 'We are committed to helping every Veteran' sound like decent Chaps to me.
Lori, you failed to mention how these tests were conducted, the Sailors probably knew there were tests being conducted.

Lori dear, I know a Guy who just loves doing odd things. I think I told you one time how he loved sucking DU Ammunition, he also loves licking and sucking on cleaning products, this Guy is 62 years old. If he heard the Navy were carrying out those tests he would have swam to the ships and stood there with no protective clothing on. Some folks are like that, they get a buzz from such experiences. When the aircraft were flying to the ships he would have been crowing; 'yeah baby bring it on'. To people like him, it is better than a Roller Coaster Ride.
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lori100
lori100: The sailors did not know they were being poisoned....
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lori100
lori100: Official conspiracies---------Operation Northwoods was a series of proposals that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals, which called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in US cities and elsewhere, were rejected by the Kennedy administration.---------------At the time of the proposal, Cuba had recently become communist under Fidel Castro. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts.[3] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government.--------------The plan called for U.S. personnel to disguise themselves as agents of the Cuban government and to engage in terrorist attacks on the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay. It also called for terrorist attacks within the United States that would be conducted by pro-U.S. forces disguising themselves as Cuban agents.-------------------------------------------------In addition to Operation Northwoods, under the Operation Mongoose program the U.S. Department of Defense had a number of similar proposals to be taken against the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro.

Twelve of these proposals come from a 2 February 1962 memorandum entitled "Possible Actions to Provoke, Harass or Disrupt Cuba," written by Brig. Gen. William H. Craig and submitted to Brig. Gen. Edward Lansdale, the commander of the Operation Mongoose project.[12][6]

The memorandum outlines Operation Bingo, a plan to; "create an incident which has the appearance of an attack on U.S. facilities (GMO) in Cuba, thus providing an excuse for use of U.S. military might to overthrow the current government of Cuba."
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chronology
chronology: Lori, you never answered my reply to the last time you posted these accusations.

Again I ask you; 'If the U.S. Government was serious in dreaming up these schemes, then why did they not act when Lee Oswald shot JFK and gave them a perfect excuse to attack Cuba'.

I suspect Lori dear, you know why, because these 'projects' were just speculative fancies and nothing els.


As for Navy Tests, the Guy I know would still have stood on the ships deck like Chucky from the 'Childs Play' Movies shouting 'atta a Boy! bring it on son' to the aircraft as they bombed the ship.
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lori100
lori100: 911....same conspiracy acted out........it was the govt that killed JFk .. Oswald was a small fish ...not attack worthy....
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chronology
chronology: Lori dear, your logic is quite beyond me.
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lori100
lori100: Army's secret chemical testing in St. Louis neighborhoods during Cold War raising new concerns----------------
Published October 03, 2012·
Associated Press-------------------------ST. LOUIS – Doris Spates was a baby when her father died inexplicably in 1955. She has watched four siblings die of cancer, and she survived cervical cancer.

After learning that the Army conducted secret chemical testing in her impoverished St. Louis neighborhood at the height of the Cold War, she wonders if her own government is to blame.

In the mid-1950s, and again a decade later, the Army used motorized blowers atop a low-income housing high-rise, at schools and from the backs of station wagons to send a potentially dangerous compound into the already-hazy air in predominantly black areas of St. Louis.

Local officials were told at the time that the government was testing a smoke screen that could shield St. Louis from aerial observation in case the Russians attacked.

But in 1994, the government said the tests were part of a biological weapons program and St. Louis was chosen because it bore some resemblance to Russian cities that the U.S. might attack. The material being sprayed was zinc cadmium sulfide, a fine fluorescent powder.

Now, new research is raising greater concern about the implications of those tests. St. Louis Community College-Meramec sociology professor Lisa Martino-Taylor's research has raised the possibility that the Army performed radiation testing by mixing radioactive particles with the zinc cadmium sulfide, though she concedes there is no direct proof.

But her report, released late last month, was troubling enough that both U.S. senators from Missouri wrote to Army Secretary John McHugh demanding answers.

Aides to Sens. Claire McCaskill and Roy Blunt said they have received no response. Army spokesman Dave Foster declined an interview request from The Associated Press, saying the Army would first respond to the senators.

The area of the secret testing is described by the Army in documents obtained by Martino-Taylor through a Freedom of Information Act request as "a densely populated slum district." About three-quarters of the residents were black.

Spates, now 57 and retired, was born in 1955, delivered inside her family's apartment on the top floor of the since-demolished Pruitt-Igoe housing development in north St. Louis. Her family didn't know that on the roof, the Army was intentionally spewing hundreds of pounds of zinc cadmium sulfide into the air.

Three months after her birth, her father died. Four of her 11 siblings succumbed to cancer at relatively young ages.

"I'm wondering if it got into our system," Spates said. "When I heard about the testing, I thought, 'Oh my God. If they did that, there's no telling what else they're hiding.'"

Mary Helen Brindell wonders, too. Now 68, her family lived in a working-class mixed-race neighborhood where spraying occurred.

The Army has admitted only to using blowers to spread the chemical, but Brindell recalled a summer day playing baseball with other kids in the street when a squadron of green Army planes flew close to the ground and dropped a powdery substance. She went inside, washed it off her face and arms, then went back out to play.

Over the years, Brindell has battled four types of cancer — breast, thyroid, skin and uterine.

"I feel betrayed," said Brindell, who is white. "How could they do this? We pointed our fingers during the Holocaust, and we do something like this?"

Martino-Taylor said she wasn't aware of any lawsuits filed by anyone affected by the military tests. She also said there have been no payouts "or even an apology" from the government to those affected.

The secret testing in St. Louis was exposed to Congress in 1994, prompting a demand for a health study. A committee of the National Research Council determined in 1997 that the testing did not expose residents to harmful levels of the chemical. But the committee said research was sparse and the finding relied on limited data from animal testing.

It also noted that high doses of cadmium over long periods of exposure could cause bone and kidney problems and lung cancer. The committee recommended that the Army conduct follow-up studies "to determine whether inhaled zinc cadmium sulfide breaks down into toxic cadmium compounds, which can be absorbed into the blood to produce toxicity in the lungs and other organs."
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: All this proves is that the US government was, and probably still is, cavalier when it comes to the health of its poorer citizens. Is that news?
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lori100
lori100: It is to many....a deliberate poisoning of the public......
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: It has yet to be proven that the stuff used poisoned anybody. People get cancer without the US government being involved.
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lori100
lori100: That they sprayed poison on men, women, and children means that they are evil....
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: We're talking about the 1950s and '60s here. It was a different world. Lead in petrol, smoke filled rooms and nobody giving a hoot about being out in the sun. Back then, nobody worried about such experiments. They weren't evil, just reckless. And still no evidence anybody was affected.
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chronology
chronology: Lori, dear Lori, you see the world through such dark spectacles. Like ghost says, it was a different world back then. Around the same time, a Canadian Beer Company added Cobalt to their Beer to improve the suds level and make their best selling Beer look and taste better. Beer drinkers drank their beer, laughed and joked and told tall tales in the Bars. But some began having heart attacks and never recovered from them. It was an accident. The U.S. Army Tests may not have developed as planned if that was so it was an accident. How many more lives would have been saved if the smoke screen had been worth following up on?

And Lori, do not even 'go there' to see how many people are killed by Doctors around the world every day administering the wrong treatment or medicine, the number is in the thousands, every day of the week. The vast majority of those deaths are of poor people in Public Hospitals. The Pentagon looks 'Mother Therasa' in comparison.
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: Err.... Is operation "Highjump" in the list
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lori100
lori100: sure Ms. ....I think I posted about it on a thread....--------Operation Highjump (OpHjp), officially titled The United States Navy Antarctic Developments Program, 1946-1947, was a United States Navy operation organized by Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd Jr., USN (Ret), Officer in Charge, Task Force 68, and led by Rear Admiral Richard H. Cruzen, USN, Commanding Officer, Task Force 68. Operation Highjump commenced 26 August 1946 and ended in late February 1947. Task Force 68 included 4,700 men, 13 ships, and multiple aircraft. The primary mission of Operation Highjump was to establish the Antarctic research base Little America IV.
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Ms_Mafdet_The Great
Ms_Mafdet_The Great: Yep.... Sounds like it
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