CIA Attrocities--------------MKUltra Mind Control and other Crimes (Page 7)

lori100: intellihub---Friday, May 24, 2013 ------CIA Blocks Release of Bin Laden Photos Signifying Bin Laden Killing Likely Never Took Place--------------The CIA withholds 52 photos requested by JudicialWatch through a Freedom of Information Act request, raising suspicion that Bin Laden was likely never killed in the official “raid”. ------------------------by Shepard Ambellas
Intellihub.com
May 21, 2013

WASHINGTON — If you look back on the whole thing it does seem kind of odd. The whole Bin Laden raid thing.

The Bin Laden raid that was conducted by SEAL Team 6, one of the most elite special forces groups on the entire planet.

The one where some highly trained hero dog tagged along, garnering the hearts and minds of the American public.

The one that later left every member of SEAL Team 6 dead.

The one that has the US government now withholding photos, against FIOA requests, that likely don’t even exist.

Actually, if you actually think it through, the official story was a cover, as no photos or body will ever be revealed.

This raises questions from several angles. One being, Why would a war criminal and known diabolic terrorist, get a proper military burial at sea, unless he was officially on the militaries payroll? It also begs the question. Why would the US military go to such an extent to hide the body so abruptly after the alleged incident?



The Trigger and Distraction

The same week the Bin Laden raid took place, the authenticity of President’s birth certificate was questioned publicly causing a firestorm of negative press. The fire needed to be contained. This very same week multi millionaire, Donald Trump, had come forth, spouting that Obama’s birth certificate was a “forgery”, nothing more than an electronic “fabrication”.

Forensic experts have since concluded that many layers within the president’s birth certificate were manually manipulated, then posted carelessly on the White House’s official website. The PDF layers have been altered and have not been re-zipped properly, showing actual evidence of manipulation and fabrication. Enough evidence has currently been ascertained to convict someone, if not the president himself, connected to birth documents for forgery, and other charges as addressed by Sheriff Joe Arpaio from Arizona in several press conferences.

Investigators such as WND’s Jerome Corsi, have taken the investigation into this matter a few steps further, traveling to Hawaii to do an on site investigation into live birth records. The findings are astonishing, literally proving that the president, and commander-in chief, Barrack Obama, is not the man he is claiming to be.

However, this evidence has been suppressed by the mainstream media and dismissed as conspiracy theory.



Show me the Body and Photos

The US government’s decision to keep Osama Bin Laden photos taken before, during, and after the SEAL Team 6 “raid” secret, has been upheld recently, after the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia backed the decision, lockstep with the establishment. The decision to veto the appeal was passed by a panel of 3 judges against JudicialWatch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.

JudicialWatch spokespeople argued that there is no need to hide photos (potentially gruesome in nature) from the American people. After all TV is gruesome and violent. Basically pointing out that there is obviously something to hide.

However, some now question whether the raid that allegedly left CIA trained, Bin Laden, dead by the hands of SEAL Team 6 even took place.
---------------------In fact, members of Seal Team 6 have even died since the alleged raid took place.

Excerpts from an ABC article read, “On Tuesday’s ruling, the appeals court said that the CIA properly withheld publication of the images of the al-Qaida leader. The court concluded that the photos used to conduct facial recognition analysis of bin Laden could reveal classified intelligence methods and that images of bin Laden’s burial at sea could trigger violence against American citizens.

Judicial Watch had argued that it was unlikely that images showing the preparation of bin Laden’s body for burial and the burial itself would cause any harm to U.S. national security. At oral arguments in January, the group’s lawyer suggested that graphic photos of bin Laden’s corpse should be distinguished from somber images of bin Laden’s burial at sea.

“As the district court rightly concluded, however, the CIA’s declarations give reason to believe that releasing images of American military personnel burying the founder and leader of al-Qaida could cause exceptionally grave harm,” wrote the panel, made up of Chief Judge Merrick Garland and Judges Judith W. Rogers and Harry T. Edwards, all appointees of Democratic presidents. The decision affirms a district court judge’s ruling last year denying the group’s lawsuit over the FOIA.

duncan124:
YouTube

Its the ' Russian robot ' designed for mental hospitals we are told that gives the game away and the Amercian scientist who say that within a few weeks he could have a device that would destroy a whole town.

It seems the logic behind the Russians design is that is what their published journals said.

It is n't. It is from the Swedish Russian wars of the 17/1800s and it was a Swedish idea to stop the Russian troops by beating them with shafts of cold air and flashing lights.

The idea was a defensive action recommended to the defeated Prince and sold for the need to protect a large expanse of countryside.

The Russians had captured the Swedish documents detailing the offer and sold them and the Finnish had kept a copy and it is important in the histroy.

The video captures the mental state of the Americans in the 1980s.

duncan124:
* But you don't have to watch the entire video just to see the Russian robot.

chronology: Lori ........ The reason the Photos are not being released is that, whenever possible, the United States respects the Geneva Convention Ruling on not showing the dead bodies of enemy combatants, the Pentagon does this to try and avoid distressing the relatives of their enemies by impacting them with traumatic images. There was indignation among American Servicemen and women when Iran dumped the dead bodies of the brave U.S. Marines killed trying to rescue their fellow Americans in 1980 in the streets of Tehran. The Iranians hooted with joy and jumped up and down as they displayed the brave fallen Marines.

The CIA photographs of the deceased Bin Laden were for the purposes of confirming his identity along with DNA U.S. Intelligence had used to confirm his hiding place in Pakistan. A Pakistani Guy here in England was saying how he had relatives who lived in the district Bin Laden was killed in, and they were saying Americans were seen in the district Bin Laden lived in weeks before the attack. They speculated after the outstanding raid by the Navy Seals, that the Americans were CIA Agents who were gathering final proof that the home was Bin Ladens, and that he lived there. The French Intelligence Service carried out a similar raid when they arrested 'Carlos The Jackal' in Sudan. But Carlos was not as well armed or defended as Bin Laden so he could be taken alive.

duncan124:
So you mean...you think it was not him??? Well as Pakistan had been empty for some time I doubt all the US story retold by the BBC. And its not illegal to show the dead enemy its just the Germans did n't like it.

Sometimes Wireclubbers have asked about medals for German war heros!! And there used to be a real Real IRA person here too!!

He died after leaving the second caves and by then his body was so thin that after he died it disappeared between the large rocks. Also there was something suspect about the paths from the second caves people said and he probaly died after walking in to bad air at night when it can't be smelt before hand or got lost

lori100: Osama Bin Laden Died of Natural Causes According to Former CIA Agent | World Truth.TV
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Osama Bin Laden Died of Natural Causes According to Former CIA AgentNews, world truthMay 7, 20132 CommentsShare This Article TweetA former agent of the CIA has revealed that al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has died of natural causes five years before the US announced his death

duncan124:
The newspapers here said he was suspected dead after being shot as part of a group heading around the second caves area.

The US army and police had alot of experience and were very good at tracking people and judging what had happened from the trail left.

davidk14: .

Lori said:

Osama Bin Laden Died of Natural Causes According to Former CIA Agent | World Truth.TV
worldtruth.tv


David responds:

WorldTruth.TV is a blogger named, "Eddie". Just FYI.

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chronology: Well Lori, the man buried at Sea by the U.S. Navy had Bin Ladens DNA, his fingerprints, was identified by photograph comparison. But hey, if 'some Guy claiming to have been a CIA Officer says he died of natural causes' sure what the heck.

What was a little odd about Bin Laden was his curious habit of always living in the same style, or lay out home where ever he was. A Journalist who interviewed him in 1997 visited the old place in Afghanistan where Bin Laden had been interviewed by him. Another TV documentary showed the home where the Navy SEALS had finally dealt with him. The two places where almost identical in their lay out, but the Pakistani home was on a smaller scale. Bin Ladens big mistake was to not warn his Guys about using Cell Phones when out and about. A courier whose name had been noticed on a El Quader memo was linked to a cell Phone number and the U.S. NSA began listening for that number. The Guy made the mistake of leaving the phone switched on and the NSA were able to triangulate the location of the automobile he was using quick enough for Pakistani Intelligence to find the van. They then followed the van back to Bin Ladens home, the rest is history. Bin Laden never used Emails or Phone calls at all while at his mansion, but he never counted on the dedicated NSA being able to locate a Cell Phone even while no call was being made, it just needed to be switched on.

duncan124:
LOL You don't think very highly of all the US looking for their most wanted man!

---------You seen now that would n't happen in Russia with that new anti-propaganda law!

Intolerance: Typical, you care about the CIA which effects you in no way. You should worry about the NSA spying on you, and your illegal porn collections. Because we all know that's the only time the Government is ever going to care about your boring suburban lives.

lori100: see my NSA thread .....

Intolerance: Oh ,sorry, I spoke to soon.

chronology: Intolerance. The NSA does not 'spy' on people's Web Browsing, they simply glance at the choice of Web content and then move on. What possible interest would the NSA have in your or my or Lori's Internet reading habits? Every time people go in a Shopping Mall some one is watched to see if they are there for criminal reasons, the Web is the same. I remember the early days of the Web, the days before 911, and boy it was wild place indeed, with the benefit of experience, I would have to say it is a benefit to have NSA oversight, the old Web was like 'Deep Web' and 'Dark Net' are today, not places I would like to be beaming to.

lori100: Anyone who is critical of the govt is considered dangerous to the NSA. And the CIA gave the Facebook creator an award. NSA has it's own survelliance building at Microsoft's headquarters.

chronology: Lori dear girl, if you are using a YouTube video as 'proof' of an award the CIA supposedly gave Facebook, I think I should tell you that video was a spoof, a joke video.

Intolerance: Chronology, everything you say is... how can I be nice about this.... an "opinion" only you think is fact. I've used the internet since the 80's and its the same old crap, people arguing and posting statements trying to win arguments, file sharing, and the same old boring stuff with better graphics. People are only afriad of prism because they don't t want sexting chat logs and porn collection found out.

Bumpa: I've heard of Prism, what exactly is it? It was mentioned in a proposed law change here which will allow the CIA and FBI to spy on NZ citizens in NZ

lori100: Wikipedia--- PRISM is a clandestine mass electronic surveillance program operated by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) since 2007.[1][2][3][Notes 1] PRISM is a government code name for a data-collection effort known officially by the SIGAD US-984XN.[8][9]

PRISM began in 2007 in the wake of the passage of the Protect America Act.[10][11] The program is operated under the supervision of the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court, or FISC) pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).[citation needed] Its existence was leaked five years later by NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who warned that the extent of mass data collection was far greater than the public knew and included what he characterized as "dangerous" and "criminal" activities.[12] The disclosures were published by The Guardian and The Washington Post on June 6, 2013.-----------------------------------------------------------------
intellihub------june 11 ,2013------------Prism was authorised under changes to US surveillance laws passed under President George W Bush, and renewed last year under Barack Obama. Mr Obama has defended the surveillance programmes, assuring Americans that nobody was listening to their calls.------------------Bush passed Prism-------- ( same theme-----give up your rights.....it's for your own good....)

lori100: The Mind Control agenda--------------- “We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. . . Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. . . . We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and generals will be controlled by electronic stimulation of the brain.”
Dr. Jose M.R. Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry, Yale University Medical School, Congressional Record, No. 26, Vol. 118, February 24, 1974.
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19. “One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order.”
From The National Educator, K.M. Heaton

chronology: Lori my dear girl, the reason for all the moaning (no pun intended), about the NSA is that so many people are now visiting 'Adult' Web Sites which offer intimate contacts of astonishing and vivid intensity. Think of 'The Lawnmower Man' movie. It is the 'True Blood' TV Show that creeps me out. Word has it it will not be long before they do come out into the open.

Bumpa: No Chrono, the reason is that the US govt thinks it is ok to carry out espionage activities against citizens of friendly nations, pressuring their govts to pass new laws making it legal for them to commit heinous acts in those countries such as torture of citizens, illegal arrests and destabilising elected governments.
I think it's acceptable to moan about such activities, don't you?

chronology: Bumpa. No other nation in the history of the world has done more to promote Human Rights and Civil Rights than the United States of America. In times of national crisis 'all' nations often act with expediency when defending their citizens. It is unlikely Arab people during the Algerian crisis would vote France 'top dog' at a popularity contest, unlikely many Irish people would think England a bastion of civil rights during the last 'troubles' in Ireland. And as for people in those countries with unpronounceable names, Russia is not really thought of as a cosy country to deal with during their disagreements. America, despite it faults, still has more honesty and openness of Government than any other.

I already have the ice pack ready for when Lori comes storming out to bash me over the head with her never ending list of mostly mythical CIA villanies. Lori dear girl, chill out with some ice tea in your L.A. garden, enjoy the sunset over the California Hills.

duncan124:
Talking crap about other people is an offense.

Bumpa: I see my other post has been deleted. I guess it's unacceptable to mention the acts of international terrorism committed by USA or all the countries invaded in the last 60 odd years. Or the total disregard of other countries' sovereignty when "protecting" its own citizens abroad.