CIA Attrocities--------------MKUltra Mind Control and other Crimes (Page 6)

Bumpa
Bumpa: Chrono, to coin an old cliche... 2 wrongs don't make a right. Just because Wingate may have used dodgy methods in the 40's doesn't make it right for the CIA to commit atrocities now.
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chronology
chronology: Am not saying it does 'make it right'. What am saying is that all Lori Posts on about over and over is the CIA. Have you heard the expression 'selective prosecution'? That is where one person is singled out over and over and charged with an offense that other people commit and are practically never charged with, 'wrongful parking' 'loitering' 'using foul language in public'. Any Judge would throw out a string of charges like this brought to him by the Police and recommend the Police be charged with 'malicious prosecution'. This is what Lori is doing to the CIA. 'Malicious Posting' is what some would consider Lori's attitude to the CIA.
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duncan124
duncan124:
What else does ( or did ) the CIA do for you?

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lori100
lori100: all Lori Posts on about over and over is the CIA. ----------this IS a thread about the CIA.....in case you didn't know....just letting people know some of their secrets.....taxpayers paid for it after all....
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Bumpa
Bumpa: @ Chrono, I've been engaging in some interesting discussion with Lori on UFOs, don't recall her mentioning CIA in it
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chronology
chronology: @ Lori. 'The Tax Payer paid for it after all'. Lori, Americans spend more each year on Video Games than the C.I.A. The Video Games Industry (Games alone) is around 15 Billion Dollars a year, the C.I.A. Budget is around the same amount. Great to see you have your priorities right.
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lori100
lori100: chrono....are you in the CIA?
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Bumpa
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Bumpa
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chronology
chronology: @ Lori. That is a silly question Lori, any CIA people would laugh their head off if you suggested I worked for them. The CIA you seem to be obsessed with is divided into two main groups, 'Officers' who are Americans of impeccable social standing and first rate academic achievements, and 'Agents' who are people they hire who can do their bidding, I am neither. If I may say so Lori, you are being more silly than usual.
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duncan124
duncan124:
They work for you...?
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lori100
lori100: social standing...academic achievements.....??......many nazis had good social standing and academic achievements........doesn't mean they weren't evil.....
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duncan124
duncan124:
Well, actually I have worked for the CIA.
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lori100
lori100: ......somehow I'm not surprised Duncan......
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duncan124
duncan124:
It was when they had a ' normalization ' which I think starts and stops when people put pressure on them to do something value for money which can be shown to be work.

They had terrible employee relations and people were always going on strike.
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duncan124
duncan124:
First the ' workers ' went on strike then their managers and there were film crews in the car park outside the front door and it was all on TV. People marching up and down and shouting more/less slogans.
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lori100
lori100:


Rand Paul alleges CIA smuggled weapons through Benghazi — RT USA
rt.com
Amid intensifying rumors that he’s considering a run for president, United States Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) has come down hard on the White House over last year’s tragedy at the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya..
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duncan124
duncan124:
Well, good flow there, reminding people of the Contra arms deals.

The point I was trying to make was the CIA could not do much more then ordinary corporations could do and the people working were using skills they had to use in ordinary jobs for US corporations.

Any spy equipment the CIA could buy anyone else could too.


If you look in the... Topic: Politics

...you will see there is a problem because someone has been actually telling the polish newspapers what to write.



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Intolerance
Intolerance: So..... do any of these "theories" change anything? I mean do you have any power to do anything about it if it was true? Do you think your being -brave- by writing this stuff? Or are you still just a bunch of middle aged oddballs who think a world wide concpericy of illuminati banking family of Jews or aliens are out to get you personally whenever you watch something on the news?
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chronology
chronology: Lori, you watch too many Austin Powers Movies.
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lori100
lori100: I have never seen one of them....
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chronology
chronology: @ Lori. Really? the fantasy BS you post here about the CIA, I swear Lori dear you could be the script writer for all the Austin Powers Movies. One day Lori, you will see through the malicious, malevolent people who spin most of these stories against your Government. But we live today in the age of the 'conspiracy theorist'.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Chrono do you have to??

Grampa Intolerance the people who doubt did stop the Arms for Hostages crimes for one and by complaining and having theories caused the CIA to do work.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Lori does claim that they had Nazi involvement and there is some evidence to support that theory in the CIAs planning in the Middle East.

It came to light that the Israelis had ' bugged ' the US embassy in Moscow which as you might know was the one which at one time dealt with all the translations done for the US Govt abroad.

While looking through the CIAs statement of intent about the Middle East it was noticed that it was much the same as a recent speech by the Israeli minister and on closer inspection you could see that it was in fact that speech cut and pasted with ' infill ' to try and make it sound like a CIA story. The CIA Head who presented it to Ronald Reagan who executed for it

But that still left the problem of how and why had the Israelis had gotten the CIA to say what their Head of Department had said.

The person who had smuggled a record of the Israelis Ministers speeches out of Israeli paid for it with his life. He was not honoured by the US and he did not have the CIA in mind when he felt escaped with the record of what the minister had said.
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duncan124
duncan124:
The Israelis had bugged the US embassy in Moscow for sometime and had used old telephone equipment. The Soviets had a ' clipped speech ' machine and Nazi Germany did.

The German machine listened to telephone conversations and rather like todays cookies watched for key words. They also produced a transcript of what people had said on the telephone. The Nazis said it was unreliable.

While confusing the immense communications at the Embassy the Israelis had done more then they knew.

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