CIA Attrocities--------------MKUltra Mind Control and other Crimes (Page 13)

Zanjan: There's no such thing as mind control. However, everyone is good at manipulation - it's our first skill as babies. The trick is to out-manipulate the other manipulator.

We'll never rid the world of Gamers; thus, the object is to be a better one.

lori100: The CIA still does mind control programming and abuses.....many of the mass shooters in the past 20 yrs were programmed and had connections to the govt....FBI,CIA, govt shrinks.....

Zanjan: You cant kill somebody if you don't already want to........not hypnoses or anything else can inspire you to do that if it isn't in you. That's been scientifically proven.

Nobody is responsible for our actions except ourselves. Do you think the CIA needs to put an ad in the paper for employees?? They've never come to my door - that's for a very good reason.....you can ask them if you want.

lori100: Everyone is capable of killing and other crimes under the right circumstances. The mind control techniques were perfected by Mengele in the concentration camps. Nazis were brought into the U.S. for this and many other reasons. They also used fluoride in the camps to dull the minds ----as it is still used today. The mind is destroyed throught constant torture and abuse and multiple personalities created to be assassins, couriers of messages, sex slaves, and to self-destruct when they have worn out their usefulness. It is very real and still continues today. Bush sr. was the former head of the CIA and helped push the torture and abuse of these victims.

chronology: Yes Lori.............. I have read 'Transformation of America' as well. Who knows how real it is or isn't. She talks about flying in American Air Force Stealth Bombers and unloading cargoes of Cocaine for the C.I.A.. She also writes about a giant Brothel in Washington with every kind of perversion catered for, it does sound so far out. She says she was Pimped out by her family from the age of 7 so this has obviously messed with her head. Many adults who use little girls for sex tell them they are Astronaut's, Secret Agents, and Top Pentagon Officials, there is no truth in any of their stories.

lori100: There is a lot of evidence the CIA is a drug smuggling business. She is not the only one to write about mind control abuse. There are many survivors and they tell the same stories, with the same presidents, senators, govt, religious and entertainment people being involved. The same military bases and psychiatric hospitals are mentioned again and again. For much more read " :Thanks For the Memories" by Brice Taylor.....----tells of the many celebrities Brice encountered that abused her, others that seemed to be mind controlled as well. It's online. There have been news reports that thousands of govt people have child porn on their computers. The abuse also involves royalty and European govts---elites around the world. It is very real. The abusers count on no one being able to believe it. Their images are carefully created and protected. I have posted about Disney being involved with the mind control programming...Disney was not what the public think he was....

Zanjan: If they could get someone to do anything they want under torture/abuse, why doesn't it work on some people? There are no guarantees, and they have no secrets that can't, eventually, be revealed.

Yes, there's a lot of wickedness in this world - it isn't confined to one agency - why pay so much attention to what you can't change? Wouldn't it be better to focus on making yourself immune instead of prying into the lives of people that will never have anything to do with you?

My question is this: what, exactly can YOU or I do with that awareness? Buy more books?

lori100: We can tell others and maybe all involved will be arrested if the public isn't too involved with reality t.v. shows and other trivia designed to distract them. These aren't 'some' people...these are the world 'leaders' committing horrible crimes.

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RE: Destruction of Earth
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As of today, please destroy central core. Lori has proven that the world is not worth saving.

Thanks.

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chronology: Lori, am sorry my kind hearted American friend, but there is almost always a mundane explanation for these sordid events. Two examples. An American woman was called by the U.S. Post Office and asked to attend a meeting with the local Postmaster. She was perplexed but went anyway. When she arrived at the Post Office, the Manager politely informed her that the U.S. Postal Service does not deliver the kind of material that was sent to a member of the Public. What has that got to do with me? she asked. 'Is this you in these photographs'? said the Postmaster showing her extremely 'revealing' photographs of herself that had been sent in the Mail. She said she knew nothing about the photographs being sent, they had been taken years prior to being mailed as 'fun' photographs by her husband and were never intended to be shown to other people. I forget what BS her husband told the Postmaster, but it was probably some whacky story.

Another situation was when a Guy was staying at his girlfriends home. She was out and he got bored and decided to watch some DVDs. He was startled to see himself walking into the bathroom and striping to take a shower. When he checked the bathroom it seemed his girlfriend had knocked a hole in the wall and fitted a two way mirror so she could video him nude.

Why do people do all these whacky things? I have no idea, but the CIA has nothing to do with any of them. It is just plain old creepy human nature. But people tend to project their own interests onto news events. Am sure Lori, you would see creepy 'MKultra' finger prints on both these situations, 'hard core pornography being circulated among people to create confusion and mind dystopia, it only works if people know the victims and see them everyday' you would insist. Personally Lori, I think some people are just jerks.

lori100: A woman was interviewed on "The View" talk show today......she was a sex slave , and said she was threatened, taken to the Vatican, that politicians and govt officials are involved.....the truth is coming out!

chronology: Yes Lori ................. and I was watching many witnesses say they were abducted onto Flying Saucers in the U.S. and subjected to repeated sexual assaults by odd looking people. One man says he had sex with himself after he had been cloned or something like that. he also said they wanted him to have sex with his grandmother after they cloned her as well, but she refused saying she only made love to her husband.

Lori, why on earth should we believe these crazy people rambling on about the CIA or Flying Saucers?

lori100: Many ufos are on radar, left marks on the ground, had presidents and military ppl as witnesses, much of it is true.....

lori100: A teenaged girl's body was found buried at the Vatican recently...Huffington Post had a story about it last yr. It was believed the girl was a daughter of a Vatican worker , and went missing many yrs ago.....believed she was a sex slave used in Vatican orgies, then murdered.....

chronology: Lori, guess what, each year the FBI and CIA receive thousands of letters from Americans claiming to be abducted by Aliens. Not sure how many of these cases each Department follows up, but when these people are examined, guess what? not a scrap of evidence turns up, no Alien DNA, no footprints, no implants in the abductees, nothing. The FBI would tell you it is impossible for anyone to grab you and abduct you and CSI not to pick up evidence later. There have been some retired FBI and CIA Officers who have claimed some of these abduction stories check out, but these Officers say Satanists, not Aliens are behind the abductions, but again, there is no proof to support their claims.

lori100: Illum Watcher----------------A classic sign of an MK Ultra victim is when people are interviewed and say things about how this was so unexpected, etc. Interviews with James Holme’s friends and neighbors say that it was unexpected, and surely his graduate student status wouldn’t show any signs of instability. They said he bought a ticket and sat down to watch the film, but later got up and did we he did. Perhaps there was a “trigger” in the Dark Knight film? He did, in fact just walk out of the theater and when confronted by the police (while he had guns in hand, mind you) he simply submitted. Doesn’t this strike anybody as odd? ------------------Another example of a possible MK Ultra styled assassination is Sirhan Sirhan’s murder of Robert F. Kennedy. Sirhan (who is still alive and serving a life sentence), claims that he was in a hypnotic trance when he fired the weapon.

Sirhans’ lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, who had been trying since 1994 to have state and federal courts overturn the conviction, argued that his client was hypnotized and framed, possibly by a government conspiracy.[19][20] He was granted a June 30 hearing. During the hearing, Teeter referred to testimony from the original trial transcripts regarding a prosecution eyewitness to the attack, author George Plimpton, in which he said that Sirhan looked “enormously composed. He seemed—purged.” This statement coincided with the defense’s argument that Sirhan had shot Kennedy while in some kind of hypnotic trance.

lori100: Al Roker was trained by Jesuits----very corrupt organization involved in crimes around the world, the current pope is a Jesuit-------------

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chronology: Lori. Hypnotism is something I have been interested in all my life. I have hypnotised some folks myself, one Guy to give up smoking.

Fair enough, a person can indeed be hypnotised to carry out a crime and be totally unaware he was so hypnotised and remember nothing about being hypnotised. However, in a case such as Sirhan, he would have been examined by Federal Authorities who have people skilled in hypnotism to discover if such a crime was committed. It would have been revealed by now if Sirhan 'was' such a victim of such criminal hypnotism. Witnesses have stated Sirhan was just a very bitter disgruntled man, no one would need to hypnotise him to perform the crime he committed.

lori100: Yes...I'm sure the govt wouldn't lie about it when they were the one who brainwashed him...

chronology: Lori, Sirhan by his own admission was indulging in endless sessions of self hypnosis and automatic writing. He kept a notebook which he filled with his resentment against Mr Kennedy and also recorded his automatic writing sessions in. Towards the assassination, the automatic writing pages were just filled with gibberish and scribblings. A hazard with self hypnosis and meditation is that people can fail to end their trance sessions properly and remain in a semi trance without realising such. Did Sirhan do this? who knows, he was certainly behaving strangely when he was arrested. Automatic writing involves 'channelling' eleged spirits who write using the channellers body.

To most people in America there is little patience with all this talk of 'trances' and 'spirits' they see Sirhan as a killer plain and simple.

Kaiya_: i think that all these school shootings are mind control victims as an excuse to take the guns away.

chronology: Hey Kaiya, I read something really far out about Salt Lake City. A Guy was saying how some Janitors went into the Basement of a Mall there to get some equipment and were startled to see some 'Reptilians' on the Basement Tunnels. Sounds really way out.

lori100: You're right Kaiya.........chrono..most people don't know the crimes their govt commits..

lori100: SFWeekly--------Operation Midnight Climax: How the CIA Dosed S.F. Citizens with LSD------------------Seymour Hersh first exposed MK-ULTRA in a New York Times article in 1974 that documented CIA illegalities, including the use of its own citizens as guinea pigs in games of war and espionage. John Marks expertly chronicled more of the operation in his 1979 book, The Search for the Manchurian Candidate. There have been other reports on the CIA's doping of civilians, but they have mostly dished about activities in New York City. Accounts of what actually occurred in San Francisco have been sparse and sporadic. But newly declassified CIA records, recent interviews, and a personal diary of an operative at Stanford Special Collections shed more light on the breadth of the San Francisco operation.

There were at least three CIA safe houses in the Bay Area where experiments went on. Chief among them was 225 Chestnut on Telegraph Hill, which operated from 1955 to 1965. The L-shaped apartment boasted sweeping waterfront views, and was just a short trip up the hill from North Beach's rowdy saloons. Inside, prostitutes paid by the government to lure clients to the apartment served up acid-laced cocktails to unsuspecting johns, while martini-swilling secret agents observed their every move from behind a two-way mirror. Recording devices were installed, some disguised as electrical outlets.--------------------Few inside the CIA even knew about MK-ULTRA and its sub-projects. The domestic experiments escaped scrutiny for a decade, until President John F. Kennedy, smarting from the botched Bay of Pigs invasion, forced CIA director Allen Dulles, who first signed off on MK-ULTRA, to resign. The agency's activities in San Francisco were so secret that not even the CIA's new director, John McCone, was informed of them when he took over in 1963.